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Hello all, just joined! Does anybody think that the falling Juggernaught has somehow traveled back in time to crashland a million years in the past? A bit like The Terminator stories?] Is it possible that the falling Juggernaught has somehow travelled back in time to a million years in its past and created its and that of the alien Xenos' own time-continuum? Or did it go back in time but jumps to another point in space and time and then ended up crash landing upon another world that ends up being LV-426 but still a million years in its past? It would explian the fossilization effect, the unleashing of the aliens across the galaxy partly and tie in the back story of the Space Jockies origins yet deepen the mystery still as to where they did really come from in the first place? (I think of the new Star Trek film with Spock and Nero battling across two time-contiuums) Could the entire world of LV 223 be actually in a state of existing outside the space, time continuum and that would explain maybe in some ways how and why Vickers and Shaw are there running around while it is crashing down upon them. Could they some how end up on a world millions of years in the past and wouldnt that then erradicate any evidence by erosion and othermeans of their ever being there or existing in the first place when you fast forward to the present state of events in the Prometheus time line for Alien to then follow suit? Could they both as well as the crashing ship have ended up on LV 426 after all, and that will be the twist at the end? Or one of the twists maybe? Ridley Scott may not use it in his film but what if he does? Are you willing to accept that? He may use what I was thinking of as Single Point Travel where by these beings open up parallels from one "point" to another snapping the occupants in ships instantly from one said point to another. It is possible and if he does consider that as many of you seem to be reluctant towards, again, would you accept it?

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super-massive black hole
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lol CraigMore! Okay, pouint heard. Just one question for you though, why? Just out of plain curiosity, why are you agaist time travel? Been done maybe?
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But didn't Marty steal the deloria...I mean derelict before the Libyans could get it?
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Ngranek
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For me, it brings back memories of Star Trek (4?) where they end up in Frisco with the whales. Really? But then again, there was that cool movie (for a kid) -forgot the name- where the intrepid explorers end up in a cave system with.. Troglodytes! (Taking over). They "fix" it all with the time machine back at the lab, and create the space time paradox. Got me thinking about it, but one realizes quickly that it will destroy the space-time continuum, and the universe with it! (or something...)
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SUPER-MASSIVE BLACK HOLE...In all honesty my friend, time travel is one of the most over used ideas in Science Fiction....That alone is reason enough fore me wince at the thought....By all accounts, everything we hope here and everything we've seen, 'Prometheus', the return of Ridley Scott to 'Alien', ought to be far more special, too special for that kind of idea to have a place...That's my opinion.... In a more objective sense.....Ridely has always said that he was not a fan of science fiction, never understood it the way we, fans of the genre, would...That said, the man managed to direct two science fiction masterpieces as well as a science fiction themed commercial, the 1984 superbowl ad '1984' for Apple Computers, that is widely considered the 'Citizen Kane' of commercials....Now how does a man who does not understand science fiction create three prime examples of the genre, examples that define it in the modern era? The answer lies in his directorial debut, the film that brought him to the attention of 'Alien's producers......'The Duellists'....a period piece that takes place during the Napoleonic Wars; a film considered to be a masterpiece in its own right.......The key here is Ridley's attention to detail and his visual genius......He insists upon realism in his films whereever possible and it ALWAYS shows......that is his focus, that a film he produces come across as real and feasible to his audience....that obsessive approach is what made his science fiction pieces so magnificent...The idea that the world you are stepping into is NOT a fantasy Ridley's asking you to suspend your disbelief for. It's a world as plausible, real, possible and natural as the one you experience outside your own door, yet in its own time, a future yet to be that is no more unbelievable than the history of our past as we've recorded it..... ..That's the genius of Ridley Scott and what I'm ultimately getting at is that time travel is an idea that, while theoretically possible, is not an idea that can yet pass the test of plausible realism...sure you can say, time travel exists in the world of this story, but the very thought of that feels about as far from what little realism can be established in a sci-fi piece as you can get.....it just feels wrong......
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craigamore - awesome post, clearly articulates exactly why time travel seems so sad in sci-fi genre A gentleman and a scholar now, if only my space tapir could get me a cold one...(god-I didn't think Id get burned out on that (ST) so fast! lol
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Bill and Ted are just about the only ones i can accept travelling through time. They made it work.
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It is possible also that they are, yes.
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I think this derelict will travel back to 1985, and get demolished by a train on the train tracks.
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I think this derelict will travel back to 1985, and get demolished by a train on the train tracks.
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What does a ship (Juggernaught - Derilict - Nostromo - Sulaco, etc.) do BUT travel through space and thus time! It is a pre-requisite to the laws of nature, it is a MUST and like it or not you have to obey, there is no way to avoid it due to our current understanding of the principles that is. And incidentally, are the Space Jockeys, the Bio Engineers or are they not in what appears to be giant hovering circular space ships near the water fall scene and in the Juggernaught and in the Derilict which some how got to that other world. Ask your selves the obvious and logical, the only question with out silly, childish commentaries that are just designed to be distrctions from the pain-stakingly obvious conclusion you are semingly unable, even unwilling to either grasp or accept: How on Earth or LV 426 did they all (Space Ships) get there in the FIRST PLACE!? Unless they flew. Or jumped or were built there first maybe. In either case, they have been subjected to the bounds and constraints of space and time travel whether you will want to accept it or not. What is the purpose of a space ship if not to take its occupants from A to B!! But to get to point B you thus have to leave point A and travel the distance in-between!!! Or get around it somehow. Otherwise, WHY BUILD THEM!!?? DUHHH!!!
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@Ngranek wrote ... what if the suit mechanism in the chair that we see, essentially digitizes (or something) the wearer, and transorms them into the holograms (maybe they are not a "replay")? Probability = low, but thats the cool thing about movies like this (and this site)-gets you thinking about "what ifs". What if the suit mechanism works like that, but leaves out anything that doesn't belong to the SJ body, and so the chestburster suddenly found himself alone in the suit, thinking "damn, now I have to get out of hear and there will be no blood!"

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