Weyland Theory

not to that detail.... but i've been thinking the same thing.

Would be interesting if it was Weyland dead in the chair when Dallas finds him...Changes your perspective for that scene.

Is a theory a spoiler? Eh, I don't know; sounds kinda goofy to me.

I like your thinking Louie. Weyland does say "We are the new gods."

i didnt know weyland was on the expedition???

^ Yes, or at least that's what we are thinking and 99.9% sure about, in some of the scenes you can see an old man in a wheelchair, that's Weyland. @Louie Actually I've often thought this... Good idea.

weyland could be the guy who wants to take urns to the earth and vickers and the crew are going to stop him. could be one theory.

@hicksandhudson it's not official, but many elements/spoilers hint toward him being here as a very old self, willing to get something out of the engineers' tech (eternal life? bioengineering tech?). @Louie I quite agree that there is a possibility that Weyland is the 'Alien' Space-Jockey. I think it makes sense, is more original and has a greater philosophical reach if Shaw's "final enemy" at the end of the movie is Weyland trying to get back to earth with immortal life or alien tech and she fights him, eventually find a way to have him seeded with a (proto-)chestburster. I discussed some quite similar/complementary elements [url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/5887]**here**[/url] if you want.

@ Sky, yes I think you've cracked it.......the plot not the egg! Apologies, I'll get my coat

Well, IF David did inject something developed from the "goo" into Weyland, )who then sat in the Jockey's chair) and it somehow evolved into an organism then burst out of him, it would explain the first chestburster and the whole Alien scenario.

This is my first post, and I am not an expert on all things Alien, but I have read where RS said the SJ in Alien was millions of years old. So the Xeno is also that old.

I think its fascinating that animals like the dinosaurs made it to millions of years of existence..yet we humans struggle to make it even close to a couple of hundred thousand. Is intelligence the curse in the universe? We humans need so desperatly a Planet nearby to settle on, but we can't get there while the population is bursting. Let's say we find a way to make our lifespan up to 200 years, to make sure we exist as much longer as a race. We need space cos people aren't dying. But we have no planet nearby. What can we do? Nothing, the Goverment will reduce the population to a specific size(insert conspiracy theory here). *this reply goes out to people wo think intelligent life can make it to a million years without extinction, wich I think is impossible.

great idea, has been theorized before by several people. im sure it has even been the basis for one of the apparent "leaked" scripts... My question is what brings you to this conclusion given what we have seen? i personally think its a bit of a shit explanation for the SJ in alien, purely because scientific research of that level and scale takes months, if not years. regardless of who perfroms it...to say and android of human creation is able to analyze, interpret and utilize a previously unknown substance in about a week? [i cant see the movies timeline covering more than this] is jumping the shark. i originally couldnt wait for this movie to exist on celluloid but after all the tv spots and trailers and worse than sub standard ARG i will be sad if this it the cliamtic ending/twist...

@asgardian..I am a firm believer of birth control...population numbers need to be controlled...each family should be allowed 1 kid, that's it...and they need to wait until someone dies to make space... Also capitalism..needs to stop..I am tired of this selfish me me me society of X-factor etc...needs to end...Everyone is entitled to a comfy home, family life, transport....but that is it...no friggin mansions and jets and Bentleys Because the more people indulge the more someone else is getting screwed over somewhere else..socialism is the key

Yeah, everybody knows that capitalism wiped out the dinosaurs! Duh!

@ itslikeananthive the "fake" prometheus script that everyone except a few dismissed but has seemed to be eerily accurate to what weve seen in subsequent trailers described Holloway as getting infected and rapidly aging, even mentioning him in a wheelchair.. it seems very likely. also, guy pierce has said in several interviews that he is only in the movie for a few minutes. sure, that could be because he mutates to a space jockey. not dismissing the theory all together, i just personally think uts more likely the old dude is a genetically altered crew member.

@spjchick If you check, R. Scott only says something like "this technology is million years old" which I think only implies the ship is million years old but not necessarily 'has been there' for that long... agree? [i]-also-[/i] does spjchick stand for 'space-jockey chick'? are you a girl on a sci-fi forum? ...would you like it if I wrote in a french accent? I heard spjfrenchs are famous for being very nice engineers. @Asgardian Playboy interesting thought and not entirely erronated but beware the power of words, when talking evolutionary biology. 'Dinosauria' as a group existed for roughly 230My (including ~165My before the K/T extinction and then 65My up to now, as represented only by birds). However, each species of dinosaur taken separately did not last that long (and we only have poor estimates how long they actually lasted, as 'species' is a hard to define concept for fossils as you can't see if 2 specimens off by 6My can still interbreed...). As a human, you are 65My apart from a [i]T. rex[/i], which is closer in time than this same cretaceous [i]T. rex[/i] is from a jurassic [i]Brachiosaurus[/i], who lived ~90My earlier. Overall, someone roughly estimated through 'wise' calculation that the average span of existence of species among all living organisms was ~5My, (not sure it still holds much value today).After that, species don't vanish, but, in average, they evolved into something 'significantly different' (define 'significantly'...) To finish, yeah, you're right though. Our 'evolutionary advantage' and the success we got from our 'social structure' are based on impeding the effect of 'natural selection' through behaviours like altruism, care to youngs and olds (i.e. medicine etc..). It made us too sucessful and numerous and will very prob. cause troubles, but as Ian Malcolm said in Jurassic Park "Life always finds a way" [and yes, I am a palaeontologist, sorry for the long boring message]

I've liked this theory all along and still stand by it, but there are just a few things that bother me about it: - if it is indeed Weyland happily on his way back to Earth, why the desperate need to take him out? Ok, we know he's a megalomaniacal asshole with a God complex, but why would he wipe out humanity? What's his gain in doing this? From what we know, his company has been working to improve Mankind's existence. - If David has surreptitiously been in contact with him in stasis throughout the movie, surely he knows the consequences of messing with those vials, and the role they may have played in wiping out an entire race (the SJ's) - the answer must be that his memories and consciousness as "Peter Weyland" must be wiped out in becoming a SJ

Weyland would have a God complex...He practically saved the Earth, according to the Weyland timeline, with his artificial atmosphere over the north pole this preventing anymore global warming. He owns the most powerful, influential company in Earth's history...shit I would feel like a god but he doesn't because he cannot cheat death. If he is on Prometheus and he suspects the same thing Holloway does, that these Engineers created humanity then he has a clue that these beings have the science to extend life, retard the aging process or even grant him immortality. If David does find a serum and injects Weyland, who knows the repercussions of that action. After he interacts with the bio chair suit, it may change him. It may even enhance his God complex. He could give two shits about infecting the earth...he may have simply merged with the new Engineer side in him and become the God he always wanted to be. And a God needs subjects to worship him. Just a theory...

@iapetus Not boring at all, in fact very informativ. When I wrote this it was just a overall thought. It may be sound a little stupid, but I think the ID4 version of the Aliens traveling from Planet to Planet to keep surving is the be best explanation for a race to expand their lifespan. @Weyland theory I'm sure he's looking for immortality plus a way to travel the universe, doing what the engineers did. Or he wants to get back to earth with powers so mighty that they have to worship him as a god. When Shaw says "We have to stop them", by this point of the movie it's clear that someone has taken over the ship to bring evil to planet earth. Then again this couln't be the climax of the movie cos its in the trailers, with the crash.