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Consider this if you feel dismayed by Prometheus

David 1

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Consider this: When people talk about the yearning for a great [or grandiose] scifi movie while talking about such movies as BLADE RUNNER, SOLARIS [the original version], SOYLANT GREEN, 1984 [though I grant it's more of a political critique than a scifi per se], PLANET OF THE APES or even LOGAN'S RUN, I trully empathise with them. When I watch recent scifi movies such as MELANCHOLIA or MOON - movies that are said to entice/arouse your intelectual side - I too feel that yearning and the subsequent dismay of witnessing nothing truly new, as probably the majority of scifi fans have concluded for themselves [by themselves]. And the reason for this dismay is quite simple: There seems to be only one movie that was [and still is] able to perplex, confuse, make you think about it's meaning, charm, hipnotise and, above all to make you wonder and yearn for more of it's kind. That movie is [i]2001 - A Space Odissey[/i]. Inteligent, cunning, simple yet profoundly complex, full of eye candy and revolving the 3 great questions: [i]Who are we? Where do we come from? Where are we supposed to go from here?[/i] And because it is such a great work of art [if one comes to think of it that way], it is prone to be imitated, nodded at and taken as a standard for the genre [as it has been taken] and beyond. It IS that difficult to come up with a movie such as 2001. It IS extremly difficult to break away from it and it will always be. it IS that hard to make something new. So, to the folks that leave [or have indeed left] the theatre somewhat dismayed about their intelectual cravings being satiated, think how RARE it is for someone to show an entire different and groundbreaking approach to timless and universal questioning that, at the same time, gets the viewer to be completely surrendered [to both the aesthietics as well to the rational process].
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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If Prometheus isn't as good, if not better, than Plan 9 From Outer Space then I may have to re-evaluate my life.
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The complaints about Promotheus are that it is a CGI fest and is intellectually stunted. I wish critics were saying that it went over their heads or they just didn't get it, but that is not it. The negative reviews I read all say that this is your standard "great visuals-dumb plot" big summer blockbuster.
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@Drakeequation I'm still open to that option, but I'll have to formulate it myself. Until I see the film all the reviews, good and bad, are just, well, reviews...
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
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@Charles Monty Weyland When are you seeing it? I hope you do a review because I will be curious to see what you thought.
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Good and right on post there Davy 1
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I think it's important to remember that Prometheus is a big budget, sci-fi horror. It was never really going to challenge viewers ideas about "where we come from" etc. in any deeply meaningful way. Hollywood just doesn't operate the way it did in 1968 when 2001: A Space Odyssey came out. This is Fox's summer blockbuster and the trailers and teasers are all part of making sure as many people part with their cash. We should be thankful that Fox didn't insist on cuts to gain a PG-13 rating.
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Critics are stunted trolls that live off the flesh of artist... F Them all.
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Right!
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well said, David...I think we'll be mulling this one over for months to come. There are layers and layers...
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Stanley Kubrick was essentially spectacular at compounding the questions great sci fi genre films attempt to play on such as "Where we came from, where going, etc.." + Socially political relevance. Sometimes balancing more so on one angle other than the other, all his films with perhaps Lolita and Eyes Wide Shut set aside, Those films being more sexual drama imposed upon social politics. Kubrick was a genius in the art of compelling people in ways many were disturbed before they could fathom what they just witnessed on screen. Anyone who says his portrayal of well written books is over-rated hasn't been paying well enough attention. Are there differences between 2001 and The Shinning novels vs. the films, absolutely. As it should be. For better or worse, it is there take on it compromised by their investors. You can't make a film exactly the way you want to because you take on investments by juggernauts such as Fox whom you have to adapt with their guidelines of budget cuts, scene cuts, and endure every VPs two cents on what makes a good film. Considering what Stanley Kubrick and Ridley Scott have gotten away with portraying as directors in opposition to studio juggernauts that want to turn it into next line of toys they can sell via Mattell, I applaud them. We fans will never know how hard Ridley Scott had to sell this film for an R rating, and let's appreciate it for what it is and wait patiently for his director's cut on blue ray. In summation, what made S. Kubric great was that he added an element of social relevance that no other director has yet to match.
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IMO, Dr. Strangelove will remain the best film of it's era. A MAGNIFICENT PLAY ON THE DIRE STRAITS OF COLD WAR AFFAIRS.
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To me Space 2001 is a pompous setting that say absolutely nothing at the end , sure its groundbreaking and disturbing in many ways but more for the pleasure to do so than for really say something . Bladerunner instead use a simple story to arrive at the big questions of our existence ...much more simple and deep . Thinking is not a matter of stroboscopic colours but a matter of smart questions and plausible answers .
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[b]To all the above:[/b] thank you for your kinf words and opinion. Well said, everyone. [b]Tears N. Reign:[/b] yes, Dr.Strangelove is a rather interesting movie: "you can't fight in here, this is the War Room" hillarious. [img]http://www.naderlibrary.com/astrangecover17x.jpg[/img]
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

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