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The Franchise As A Whole (possible spoilers)

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MemberOvomorphJun-04-2012 4:27 PM
Spoiler Space from 10 to 1 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 Possible spoilers begin below. For the record, I have not seen Prometheus yet so I cannot judge it until I do. However I have read numerous summaries of the past year, including what is now on Wikipedia and the spoilers that are here. This is the second time I have posted something here. What compelled me to write this was re- reading the fake Alien Harvest script and realizing that despite a few aspects I found interesting, ultimately that script would not have made for a better film. Then I got to thinking of Paramount's 2009 Star Trek film and essentially what that film did was reboot the franchise by creating an alternate timeline that gave the filmmakers a way to tell new Star Trek stories without invalidating the original multiple series that took place in what is now called Universe Prime. Thus CBS - Paramount could continue making Star Trek TV shows and movies or whatnot that takes place in the original Star Trek universe or the new one, which is somewhat of a sequel as it was a reboot. Now Fox has in a sense appears to have done the same thing with Prometheus. A quasi prequel that takes place at a point in the franchise that neither invalidates nor promotes the previous films before, including the AVP films. Most people who are in the target demographic, which I would say is 18 to 50 have not seen the first Alien film on the big screen. I never saw Alien on the big screen, but I had the toys, viewmaster footage, movie novel and Heavy Metal Illustrated Story. I was a kid when Alien came out. I did see all the subsequent films afterwards and the AVP films too. Despite whatever may be printed online on the various movie-tie-in websites, I see no reason to invalidate any of the movies. There is no reason to think that for example, the Yautja/Predator species had not discovered the derelict on LV-427 long before the Nostromo. There is no reason to say that Charles Bishop Weyland was not the founder of Weyland Industries and Peter Weyland took the company in directions Charles never dreamed of. There is no reason to believe that Michael Bishop Weyland II did not have an uncanny resemblance to his ancestor and modeled the Bishop android on both himself and Charles. I imagine there was a lot of corporate espionage between Weyland and Yutani based on the third viral video that looks as though the transmission has been tapped. I could go on and on, but I think you all get where I am coming from. Unless in the franchise there is a direct statement that contradicts the other films, I think people can believe whatever they choose to believe. For me, I see all the Predator films, AVP films, and Alien films as well as Prometheus as part of the larger whole. Basically I am not expecting a sequel to Prometheus to address anything from what we have seen nor answer any questions. However, a third AVP film or even a Predator film could in some fashion fill in the blanks about Alien not answered in Prometheus without stepping on Prometheus' toes. In short this is the same kind of reboot as Star Trek. Love it, hate it, or somewhere in between. Even elements in The Clone Wars animated series on Cartoon Network contradicts elements written in the DK books for example, Grievous' origins. Don't be surprised if one day Star Wars gets rebooted. Some might feel that it already has. There are certainly a generation of kids who are more fans of the animated series and have no problem with the changes Lucas made to the classic trilogy.  Personally I kind of feel apathetic about the whole thing. I love good science fiction and sci-fi fantasy, but I have more interest in my own life than I am in following another LOST or Babylon 5. Ridley Scott may be in great shape and is a very talented visual filmmaker/storyteller, but I don't know if he will be alive long enough to make any more of these films. He has other things he wants to do too.  I hope there is more to like about Prometheus than there is not to like, but whatever happens, the old films still exist and maybe the film will be considered an outstanding masterpiece ten years from now like Alien and Bladerunner.  As it is, the wonder of the Alien universe became diluted a long time ago. The same is true of Star Wars. If anything I would have never revealed exactly what year any of the alien films take place in. Once you place a date on something it runs the risk even more of not standing the test of time. Meanwhile, I guess we will see what happens and I look forward to viewing Prometheus regardless this weekend. Thank you.
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Mithra

MemberOvomorphJun-04-2012 4:39 PM
Great post. Things to think about. Thank you. M

hicksandhudson

MemberOvomorphJun-04-2012 4:58 PM
Good stuff here. I like seeing this as an overall universe and am not expecting prometheus to be this single linear prequel to Alien, nor do i want it to be. "Alien" franchise is so singular that the following movies past the true end of the saga, Alien 3, had been bastardized so much that the storylines didn't even make sense. Cloning Ripley and Xenos, who supposedly the very last of each one was burned alive on Fiorina. Prometheus is an opportunity to re-open a disgraced franchise by exploring the space jockey and showing us the possibility the entire Xeno species did not live and die with Ripley. I really could care less how the derelict got to LV 427. Just by knowing there's engineers who created xenos, I can use my imagination that there's probably several engineers, many of whom communicated and developed xenos, probably in mass, to eradicate their failed experiments. I liken this to weapons of mass destruction. There isn't just one, there's supplies all over the planet, and occassionally, stuff happens and a transport could go down or they could get stolen. I personally think that if there is a sequel to Prometheus, it would have to branch off of telling the direct story of LV427 (no i have not seen the movie yet so i don't know the true outcome). Why close a door of this amazing universe? We are just finding out what created the xeno's, and who engineers life. Why close infinite creative possibilities by tying directly into Alien?
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