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Black Goo & Sacrificial Goo

BellaisanAlien

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One question that I have which is based on an assumption that a lot of people seem to have made - how do we know that the black goo from the urns and the drink that the Engineer consumed at the beginning are the same thing. Janek made an assumption that the complex on the moon was a base to create weapons of mass destruction. The worms appeared to advance in their evolutionary state. Holloway was going through changes which we were unable to see the end result. He could have been evolving into something close to an Engineer...... The only thing that makes me question this is Fifield. All we see is him fall after getting burnt by the acid from the cobrahugger and fall to the floor. Perhaps he is evolving but has brain damage from his injuries; thus explaining him attacking other crew members. I do not believe that the black goo from the complex and the substance drank by the Engineer in the beginning sequence is the same.... I'm hoping the cobrahugger gets a better explanation in a sequel or directors cut. The Engineers all look to be A sexual. The pile of Engineers all had holes in their chests. This would explain how the Engineer in the original Alien was fossilised after escaping whatever happened on the moon (but infected). Perhaps the cobrahugger develops / evolves into a facehugger?? Be good to know if anyone has similar views.........
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The film explains this to you, quite clearly. The goo is a weapon, we see Holloway changing into what Fifield becomes. Fifield has his helmet broken open by the acid and a fall, and collapses into the black goo. What would you think it was anything else? They've practically spelled it out to you. The Cobrahugger (whatever) is the product of the worms in the black goo. This really isn't difficult to grasp...
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What happens to Fifield is the same thing that happens to Shaws womb, he/it gets re-animated.

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@BellasianAlien... I know what your getting at and trying to say man. it's not as clear cut as some are saying about the weaponised stuff....it is if you believe that's what happened and don't take in other things... but the scenes where david opens up the module seems to have a different substance in it stored in a different way....in a clear substance in glass like bottles/containeres....yes the little globs of black stuff in there could be the same thing but again might not be....it didn't react in the same way to a change in atmosphere as the other stuff.....and its clears holloway was infected by this stuff....but it's not clear that the stuff fyfield was infected by is the same goo....its just been taken for granted that it was....though i feel the symptoms holloway was going through where more similar to the engineer at the start of the film like he was more breaking down and has amore panspermic nature....than the re-animated style symptom of fyfield.....who knows? your right to wonder as not much is clear in the contradictory sense of this film....some have obviously made up their minds and thats why they think its easy to explain rather than looking at the obvious differences between these and other issues....
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If we assume that the 'Engineer' in scene one has different motivations to the ones we see making weapons of mass destruction then it is very likely that the black goo is different. Surely it has common ingredients, something that breaks up DNA (for later recombination/mutation) but probably the sacrificial engineer, doesn't have any creepy crawlies in his, seeing as it is HIS DNA that he is seeding, not some worm.
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@Hadleys hope....yeah exactly man....but try telling that to @westy
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Quote - "The only thing that makes me question this is Fifield. All we see is him fall after getting burnt by the acid from the cobrahugger and fall to the floor". That is wrong... After Fifield gets acid in his face he actually falls into the black goo with his head for just a second.
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Thanks 'Hadley's Hope' and 'Nickell', I'm glad we have some thinkers outside the box. @Shaw's Sweet Baby - I didn't explain myself too well. What I meant was Fifield appears to de-evovle rather than evolve. But this to me could be explained by his injuries......(he does evolve but is messed up in the head because of the acid burn). I would imagine a super race would have more inventions than just one form of black goo. I don't see at any point a direct link or hint between the drink the Enginner has at the start and the black goo on the planet / moon......
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i like this post..
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where does anyone see a weapon of mass destruction????? the glass containers in the urns were covered in black goo. so the inside the glass and outside the glass are different. i did see holloway had same symptoms like first engineer (i admit maybe i saw wrong)
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Bella, this was my first impression as well, EndFifield looked like a monkey
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@shinobix9x i'm not personally saying the stuff is weaponised or a WMD...im saying that others seem intent that it is....and I'm also on about the contents of the glass containers theres clear liquid in there and some black stuff too....its all very different and stored differently to the absolute black stuff fyfield is contaminated with....just clearing that up.
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I beleive the implication was that there had been some sort of accident and the organizim inside the urns had escaped and infected the crew there are multiple comments about an outbreak or accident and everyone in the holograms seems to be running from something it seems clear that it was intended to look like its whatever was leaking out of the urns. Also the urn that david took was not leaking when he took it.
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@get_1 ....i've read these comments too mate.....and it's not that i disagree....i don't its all up for grabs....the only thing that bugs me a bit is why did the engineers run into THAT chamber full of that dangerous stuff, if that or something like it had been exposed or broken out in an epidemic fashion?....frying pan into the fire?....i don't want to speculate on what as again theres many theories but i think one thing we can agree on...it looked like those engineers where panicked and running away from some kind of being or situation....was there something in that chamber to combat it....who knows?...we didn't find out. and whatever it was it doesn't seem to be there anymore....
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To me the engineers are running away from the one that is alive at the end in the cryochamber..... They are running away from the ship that potentially will fly them away from danger, and to the room where this mysterious black goo is stored. My ideas are that the living engineer is evil bad ass and caused the infection or the infection caused by accident created some creature that blocked most of the engineers from returning to the spaceship.....
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First i need to correct my previous post it was socrates that killed himself with the hemlock. and secondly i think that they were on the way to the urn chamber as first responders they are all suited up in those flight/hazmat suits i can only asume to put the goo in that room into whatever state of dormancy it was in before david opened the door.
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The man in the cryo chamber I believe was the man in charge. In the holo played on the bridge you see 4 guys having some sort of conversation they leave guy 1 and run to the urn room sealing the bridge and actual ship behind them guy one goes into cryo until everything blows over and never wakes up... The pile of bodys are the other engineers who are trying to get into the uncontaminated ship and the pilot guy 1 is already in cryo or wouldnt let them in anyway because of quarantine.
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On further inspection Black goo (xenomorph soup) could be essence de' xenomorph add organism simmer, burst through their chests, then grows up with awesome clearish skin, acid for blood and the ability to get the face hug on in some instances. none of the creatures exposed to the goo tuned into the traditional xenomorph they all seemed to become more like face huggers when we get to see the final product.
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I imagine each urn has a different black goo, like a chocolate assortment, otherwise why not one big one, why lots of varying sized/shaped little ones?

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