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Spartacus

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Can hardly contain my excitement for what is sure to be a Can't Miss Bonafied Hit motion Picture with stellar visuals and a Kick Ass story. I do NOT for one minute believe or even trust 90% of the reviews I have read, not only are they written wrong and show very little understanding of how to evaluate and judge a film, but most seem to me like the rants of what we refer to today as "Fan Boys" who have an Agenda of Hate on Fox in general and Spaihts, Lindelof and Ridley in particular and any potential success they might have and have decided that the film had to follow their expected fan boy desires rather than accepting the project for what it is and will always forever be...a Gift...because for any of them to even be here they would have to acknowledge that in their heart of hearts they have always felt that ALIEN was as close to a perfect film as they can fathom. They're part right about that...it IS..But the part they don't get is that because of that They Never Had to do this...THIS WAS FOR US, AND THEY'RE LOVE OF FILM MAKING AND NOTHING ELSE...MONEY'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, EVERYONE INVOLVED IS ALREADY FILTHY RICH!!! WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE ANY NEW FILM FROM THE SAME UNIVERSE..."LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY" !!! Before even seeing this thing I find it absolutely impossible to believe that anything I have read regarding it having any merit what so ever...reads to me...all of it...all of the negativity like petty jealousy and uneducated stupidity. Every Fan review of it I have read just about is negative and every Critics review I have read of it calls it a near Masterpiece! Most giving it 4 of 5 or 9 on 10 stars from Production values thru the acting and on into regard for the actual story. Just the fact the Space Jockey is even in this makes it a Miracle of a film IMHO...just to have that thing in ANY FILM ever would have been...so excuse me if I find that YES, if all that negativity came out of France, well then France doesn't have a clue what a good film is if you ask me, or any other country...I'll make up my own mind thank you very much and find it illogical that any 200 million or so film directed and conceived by in collaboration with Ridley Scott is going to even have a chance of "sucking". The mere nature of the reviews I have read bothers me, they all read like pathetic attempts to discredit the people who wrote and made it rather than evaluating the film on it's artistic and technical merits...like making a cobra hugger is something YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY and FILM BETTER and like you KNOW how to do any better?...seriously...Like I said 90% of what I have read to me reads like Complete B.S. I have NEVER in 50 Years seen trailers that looked that magnificent, if the film looks anything like them at all...The story really isn't going to be that important it'll take care of itself I am sure!!! Most of all the reviews I have read from the fans just lack any kind of film reviewing structure and credibility and all just seem like personal rants of frustration from little boys and girls who are crying because they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas! It is NOT easy to make a motion picture it is a collaborative art and NO ONE on these boards who has said bad things about this film, has shown me even one SAMPLE of the WORK THEY Themselves have done that is better...and in my mind to have even a spec of credibility after you say stuff like what all these suddenly new members with 3 posts and 2 days here have been saying about this film, including some who clearly have been downloading this thing and watching it on some cruddy camera copy... you had better produce the work you all did that's better...otherwise what you say is complete and utter nonsense. I chose to Have Faith, common says I should and it also says most of what I have read from the naysayers is complete "Rubish", never the less If on the outside chance it turns out tonight that any of it is, I will Promptly admit it!!! In the mean time I choose to keep the Faith, Ridley Scott is an extraordinary film maker and I find it quite likely that I will be impressed with his work here. I think the Biggest reason people got upset is because they all REALIZED THIS FILM WILL CHALLENGE EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE ABOUT OUR CREATION AND WHAT RELIGION HAS BEEN TEACHING US...people do not like to have their faulty belief systems challenged...ever...and I strongly suspect this film does this on some level and the mere suggestion of it sent these naysayers into a tail spin, they simply can not accept or understand anything that challenges their own religious beliefs and habits. I strongly suspect this film was TOO cerebral for these negative reviewers and must be filled with inuendo and symbolism they refuse to embrace because it would challenge their own belief system. By the way, NOT ONE negative review spoke of "Symbolism" which I find in and of itself completely discredits every single negative review I read !!! It's the most common device in Cinema and i surely sprinkled all over this thing !!! NO one who was negative even mentioned it.
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Xenomorph 54
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the moment we all waited!
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids? They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
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Enjoy the film man. I have until August, maybe to see it. Yea, the people criticizing this movie, I can't really understand. Character development? Crap criticism in a movie where all but one or two poeple are cannon fodder. No Xeno? Who cares. I saw him at Disney. Plus, one exists before Prometheus got to the planet. Just look at the mural. Loose end? There is at least one sequel planned and maybe more. Plus, who could address these big topics in such a short film. I have no expectations? I expect high art and lofty thoughts. I can't be disappointed. RS is at the helm.
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i am waiting...........
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WhyDontTheyFreezeHim
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I just hope you arent as disappointed as I was.... I felt like I needed counselling after leaving the cinema lol By the way, I find your post EXTREMELY insulting and incredibly ignorant. Unbelievable.
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This is by far the most amusing post ever on these boards. Someone who by their own admission has already decided it is a good film, accusing others of not being objective. Oh, the irony. As for the "you haven't done any better" well no I havent. But it does not take an expert on invisible tailoring to point out that in the case of Prometheus, the emperor is stark b***ock f***ing naked. I expect you to delete this post, which is ok, as I have the satisfaction of knowing that you read it and you are incapable of reasoned argument (again, ironically something you accuse other of).
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This is what we refer to as the "religious" fan i.e. a fan possessed in the belief that something exists, even before having witnessed it
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Credit where credits due though Spartacus, I bow in front of a true master of the non sequitur and ad hominem.
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i like this post..
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@Spartacus If Prometheus had embraced all the things you hope it does, then I would have loved the movie. Fair enough that you fanatically want this movie to be good (I felt the same way, until I actually saw it) but don´t trash other peoples reviews of the movie, just because you like the trailers.
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Hey man like I have said many times and like everyone here who KNOWS ME, knows, there is NO Lying in me, if it sucks it sucks and I'll be the first to admit, but Like I said I suspect it just doesn't !!! It's not just a movie though, it's an event of sorts and as such I do in fact expect something great and will in fact not like [b]not[/b] getting that in some way so I am happy and will be fair and admit if I do not think it is well made film, just truly believed it would have been delayed if it was not much much better than the reviews from "wannabes" i have read so far! If what any of them say has any merit what so ever, this film would not have even been released to begin with it would have been caught by Scott and/or Fox and delayed because of it. Sorry but the people watching these things in the theaters just DO NOT know better than the people who make them or review film for a living, that's just FACT. I'd like to add that I also feel I am showing an INCREDIBLE and COMPLETELY MIS UNDERSTOOD {for reasons you just do not know about} AMOUNT OF RESTRAINT RIGHT NOW and deliberately a lot more self controlled and 4respctfull about this than I want o be right now, some of the comments there are so out of touch with reality and so wrong I think it is best to just let you think you are right and not address them.
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For the ones that just wanted a another Alien movie it must be very disapointing. It's just way bigger than that.
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Who are these wannabes though? I didnt really like the film so does that make me a wannabe? Insulting. And shinobi, yep, it must REALLY be disappointing for those expecting an alien movie. I was hoping for a standalone movie...which it is. But I still didnt like it...that doesnt make me a "wannabe" or a "retard" though. I just have different taste to you guys who like the movie. Simple as that.
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Hey spartacus First things: hope you enjoy it. Second things: hope you give us an honest review of how you feel afterwards. I can imagine that for some people on here doing a U-Turn would be a humiliating proposition, considering how much time they've put into saying 'IT'S GONNA BE AMAZING!!!'. Regardless of however people feel, honesty is always refreshing. Third thing: this is being picky, but you can't dismiss someone giving a negative POV because 'they couldn't have done better themselves'. If you follow that line of reasoning, then nobody can give a positive POV either because they have no insight either? It works both ways. I think some people here have been CRAZILY negative and have attempted hijack other people's positive threads, but i think that's just because they're so unhappy with what they saw. Could be a flaw in the film? Could be a flaw in them? Ultimately? Probably both. And, ShinobiX9X, I wanted it to be so much bigger and 'more' than an alien movie. But until the sequels we won't know. And part of the reason I remain unconvinced is because we maybe never will! PEACE!
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Freezhim. I didn't write wannabe anything, nor retard. In my limited english i mean. I read a lot here, and a lot was, yes he say no prequel but it will. IT's about mass destruction it's this is that. or we want to be scared like in alien. but it's neither, it's another kind of movie. i liked it a lot. others don't like it, no problem. peace :s
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I wish you a nice evening with prometheus! May your "positivity" not leave you (and the force be with you). Haha. Nobody in this part of the galaxy wished MORE THEN ME to get a superb exciting story/movie... and as said i liked it, but on the other side i have to RAPE MY BRAIN to stay positive according to prometheus overall quality. Look is fantastic - but the screenplay is ... simply DUMB. But maybe you are cool enough and have overall intelligence to "understand" what Mr. Lindelof wants to tell us here with this movie, i did not, and what you see is DUMB, positive or not.. dumb is dumb.
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"WDTFreezehim" you have been here since March and Have always said intelligent things and I respect your opinion, I think you were honest and fair and reckognize that and I may disagree and will tell you why I do or don't when I see the film. If you want to make this worse go ahead...BUT i THINK YOU KNOW i AM A FAIR AND HONEST PERSON. My apologies if the generalization offends you, hey man that's the price you pay I guess for telling people who have waited 2 years to see a film that you saw it already and did not like it and are part of a gang of people making this clear to everyone who hasn't seen it yet? seriously man!!! Now I am starting to get a bit pissed so if you guys want to take this into the domain of the moral implications of what you are all doing I say bring it on, I say you have to be a pretty selfish person top go onto a movie forum board for the purpose of ruining the film for other people before they have seen it. not You Freeze, but clearly many others have and continue to do this. including two or three who posted in this thread and whom I expect BH to be addressing himself very shortly, either that or I just won't post any review or tell anyone what i really think of it. Either away it's funny, to ME at least, that anyone would complain about my post...UNLESS OF COURSE WHAT I SAID IN IT HIT A NERVE!!! AND REALLY ALL I SAID WAS I DO NOT TRUST THE REVIEWS AND AM EXPECTING GOOD THINGS AND THAT I WILL BE HONEST AND DECIDE FOR MYSELF, anyone that has a problem with that clearly has an agenda and clearly is a "wannabe" and i demand you all show me the work you have done that is better otherwise just "STFU"...you don't know wtf you are talking about...and have zero credibility period !!!
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Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, be it positive or negative, objective or subjective. To earn respect for your opinion you must also respect the opinions of others, whether you agree with them or not. Attacking an individual or their opinion, opens you up to attack in turn and due course. If you disagree with someones opinion and view it to be wrong/overly subjective/biased then debate the details within their opinion, never with the individual. The moment you do so, you reveal your ineptitude and inability in intelligent debate and discussion.

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@Spartacus If you start trolling threads like this one, slagging off negative reviews, insulting people who write them, constructing strawmen arguments and conspiracy theories, based on faith for a movie you haven't even seen what do you expect? Its not rocket science. Stay off the boards, see the film then confront the critics armed with knowledge of the film and good arguments. And use some punctuation!
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@Sparty - Yup, I understand that some people deliberately come on here to try and ruin the film for others and that just isnt fair at all. I think a lot of the rants are from guys like myself who were just upset/in shock, and wanted to vent their frustration to others who had the same feelings after viewing the movie. We [b]all[/b] wanted this movie to be better than it was for [i]us[/i]. Youre not alone there, my friend. I NEVER let peoples opinions affect my own either but I try not to be disrespectful to them. Honestly, I think all those who havent seen the movie yet shouldve avoided this forum like I did for the past 2 or 3 weeks....I know its hard to stay away, but how else can we avoid spoilers and peoples opinions? I disagree with what you said about the fans not knowing better than the people making and reviewing the films for a living. In most cases that might be right...but there are some VERY fanatical fans out there who I believe know more than these professional film reviewers and movie makers themselves know. And at the end of the day, the fans are all that matter as these movies are made for the fans, not professional movie reviewers and makers. I [i]can[/i] relate to your extremely positive(if ignorant) mindset though because I was telling my friends and family that there is no way in hell that it would fail because "Its Ridley Scott", "The trailers alone are better than anything Ive seen in a long time" etc etc Unfortunately, Ive now had to admit I was wrong...to them and myself. Im glad that you can ignore us guys who talk negatively of the movie and go in with a positive attitude, and I truly hope you enjoy it...but please try to keep your feeling towards us to yourself lol
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@shinobi - I know. I wasn't referring to your post, my friend. Peace.

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