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Spartacus

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Can hardly contain my excitement for what is sure to be a Can't Miss Bonafied Hit motion Picture with stellar visuals and a Kick Ass story. I do NOT for one minute believe or even trust 90% of the reviews I have read, not only are they written wrong and show very little understanding of how to evaluate and judge a film, but most seem to me like the rants of what we refer to today as "Fan Boys" who have an Agenda of Hate on Fox in general and Spaihts, Lindelof and Ridley in particular and any potential success they might have and have decided that the film had to follow their expected fan boy desires rather than accepting the project for what it is and will always forever be...a Gift...because for any of them to even be here they would have to acknowledge that in their heart of hearts they have always felt that ALIEN was as close to a perfect film as they can fathom. They're part right about that...it IS..But the part they don't get is that because of that They Never Had to do this...THIS WAS FOR US, AND THEY'RE LOVE OF FILM MAKING AND NOTHING ELSE...MONEY'S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT, EVERYONE INVOLVED IS ALREADY FILTHY RICH!!! WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE ANY NEW FILM FROM THE SAME UNIVERSE..."LUCKY, LUCKY, LUCKY" !!! Before even seeing this thing I find it absolutely impossible to believe that anything I have read regarding it having any merit what so ever...reads to me...all of it...all of the negativity like petty jealousy and uneducated stupidity. Every Fan review of it I have read just about is negative and every Critics review I have read of it calls it a near Masterpiece! Most giving it 4 of 5 or 9 on 10 stars from Production values thru the acting and on into regard for the actual story. Just the fact the Space Jockey is even in this makes it a Miracle of a film IMHO...just to have that thing in ANY FILM ever would have been...so excuse me if I find that YES, if all that negativity came out of France, well then France doesn't have a clue what a good film is if you ask me, or any other country...I'll make up my own mind thank you very much and find it illogical that any 200 million or so film directed and conceived by in collaboration with Ridley Scott is going to even have a chance of "sucking". The mere nature of the reviews I have read bothers me, they all read like pathetic attempts to discredit the people who wrote and made it rather than evaluating the film on it's artistic and technical merits...like making a cobra hugger is something YOU ALL DO EVERY DAY and FILM BETTER and like you KNOW how to do any better?...seriously...Like I said 90% of what I have read to me reads like Complete B.S. I have NEVER in 50 Years seen trailers that looked that magnificent, if the film looks anything like them at all...The story really isn't going to be that important it'll take care of itself I am sure!!! Most of all the reviews I have read from the fans just lack any kind of film reviewing structure and credibility and all just seem like personal rants of frustration from little boys and girls who are crying because they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas! It is NOT easy to make a motion picture it is a collaborative art and NO ONE on these boards who has said bad things about this film, has shown me even one SAMPLE of the WORK THEY Themselves have done that is better...and in my mind to have even a spec of credibility after you say stuff like what all these suddenly new members with 3 posts and 2 days here have been saying about this film, including some who clearly have been downloading this thing and watching it on some cruddy camera copy... you had better produce the work you all did that's better...otherwise what you say is complete and utter nonsense. I chose to Have Faith, common says I should and it also says most of what I have read from the naysayers is complete "Rubish", never the less If on the outside chance it turns out tonight that any of it is, I will Promptly admit it!!! In the mean time I choose to keep the Faith, Ridley Scott is an extraordinary film maker and I find it quite likely that I will be impressed with his work here. I think the Biggest reason people got upset is because they all REALIZED THIS FILM WILL CHALLENGE EVERYTHING WE BELIEVE ABOUT OUR CREATION AND WHAT RELIGION HAS BEEN TEACHING US...people do not like to have their faulty belief systems challenged...ever...and I strongly suspect this film does this on some level and the mere suggestion of it sent these naysayers into a tail spin, they simply can not accept or understand anything that challenges their own religious beliefs and habits. I strongly suspect this film was TOO cerebral for these negative reviewers and must be filled with inuendo and symbolism they refuse to embrace because it would challenge their own belief system. By the way, NOT ONE negative review spoke of "Symbolism" which I find in and of itself completely discredits every single negative review I read !!! It's the most common device in Cinema and i surely sprinkled all over this thing !!! NO one who was negative even mentioned it.
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[quote]@Spartacus If you start trolling threads like this one, slagging off negative reviews, insulting people who write them, constructing strawmen arguments and conspiracy theories, based on faith for a movie you haven't even seen what do you expect?[/quote] [b]IT IS MY THREAD...NOW WHO IS THE TROLL HERE EXACTLY?[/b]
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AND AT "FREEZE" I WILL BE HAPPY TO DO AS YOU DID IF IN FACT THE FILM IS AS BAD AS YOU SAY IT IS!
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I think he meant 'trolling-thread': a thread that is meant [i]to troll[/i]. Not: you found a thread and then trolled it.
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makes no bit of difference he personally attacked me again for saying "I do not trust the negative reviews"...period. I never singled out any individual. My post was about not letting all the negativity influence my opinion but it is also abundantly clear that this is the very AGENDA of the people who did not like it, not to just say "I did not like it" but to attempt to convince other people they don't even know that they should feel the same way, and that's NEVER going to happen by default with me, ever!!!
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on Spart buddy .. Love you long time .... .you see it 11 hrs before me ,,,,
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Well, he possibly got mad at you because you said some strange, and potentially unjustifiable, things in your original post? Things like 'the story will be great no matter what' etc etc. Saying stuff like that gives people a reason to fight. But I think you're right about one thing: misery loves company. And yes, there are a lot of people here who are looking for ways to moan about the film. It's sad that the opinions have polarised everyone. If you go into the 'Reviews (like)' forum you can see people have wandered in and have found positive threads to attack. I myself have lingered watching it all happens. And whilst I understand [i]why[/i] some people are trying to derail the positive argument (i think some people are in denial about certain elements) it doesn't excuse the fact that there is a small but very active contingent who are dragging everything down with them. If you're mad about this? I understand. I'd be feeling some fury too. But most here aren't your enemy. So try not to sound too mad 'in general'? Love from Brightonrock.....KISSES!!!! XXXXXXXXXX
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[quote]on Spart buddy .. Love you long time .... .you see it 11 hrs before me ,,,,[/quote] Ill be in touch base as soon as I do and have s shift to do right after the film so it will more than likely be tomorrow afternoon sometime. Cheers mun !
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you got that right ............
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@Spartacus The purpose of this thread was pretty clear. To characterise everyone who doesn't like the film as being stupid, not understanding it, having hidden agendas, having wild expectations, being unable to appreciate a good film. This is simply trolling. The thread was put here to get a reaction. I wouldn't dream of starting a thread which said:- "All people who like Prometheus know nothing about films and film reviewing and are saying they like this because the are obsessive fan boys, who care more about visuals than story. For their misguided faith, these people should be rounded up and put in a sack to be indescriminately beated with a hose". When you try and put everyone in the same lot, and show no understanding of why they are saying, or acknowledge their right to sayit (and just respond by insulting them) you'll encourage te kind of comments you get here.
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complete rubbish, the purpose was to say that I do not take one of those negative reviews seriously, in almost each and every case they were written by people with an agenda as some of you just proved is the case for yourself with your negative comments and attempt to bring me down for saying they don't faze me at all, they' aren't honest in most cases and not written properly as far as reviews of a film go... in this thread, all you had to say was "good for you tells us what you think tomorrow after you have seen it", if you have nothing but negativity for this film, and especially if any of these people are so sure in their own convictions which they clearly are not and Clearly that wasn't an option for any of these "Wannabes" !!! All they want is for me to say I am wrong and I hate this movie.
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@Slipp_Digby From now on, stay out of my threads. Will never say it again. I will rather take action to make sure that you do! You are clearly a Bad seed with Bad intentions and I want 100% of nothing to do with you.
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LET US SEE THE FLICK FOR OUR SELFS ,,FIRST .... Most people here act like my wife , ......MAN OH MAN
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I hate quote miners, but as you don't even know or refuse to acknowledge what you wrote... "rants of what we refer to today as "Fan Boys" who have an Agenda of Hate on Fox in general and Spaihts, Lindelof and Ridley" Evidence to support this wild and unfounded accusation? All negative reviews, ya gotta be kidding me! "...all of the negativity like petty jealousy and uneducated stupidity." Seems we are stupid is if we can't see its good. Check. "Every Fan review of it I have read just about is negative and every Critics review I have read of it calls it a near Masterpiece!" Demonstrably wrong. Rotten Tomatoes - critics 73% (no consensus). If you looked you would see that the audiences like it a whole lot more than the critics do. "Most of all the reviews I have read from the fans just lack any kind of film reviewing structure and credibility and all just seem like personal rants of frustration from little boys and girls who are crying because they didn't get what they wanted for Christmas!" I expectation issue has been done to death, really. There are some very good well thought out critical reviews, just as there are bad positive reviews. Its the substance of what they are saying that matters and their arguments which support that. "written by people with an agenda as some of you just proved is the case for yourself with your negative comments" Evidence of a hidden agenda would have been negativity before I saw it, and a predetermined outlook, not just being negative. Its possible to watch it objectively and feel negative afterwards. I was actually excited before, now I'm crushed. "they' aren't honest in most cases" How do you know that for a fact? The only person who knows that is the poster(s). I dont want to change your opinion, I just want you to stop slagging off negative reviews as baseless when you have nothing to justify it (yet). Either than, or you can get in the f***ing sack.
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*sigh* HOPE YOU FOLKS ENJOY THE MOVIE!!!!!!!
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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Sorry i misunderstood, now let's all peace and love
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Slipp_Digby I STAND BY EVERY WORD I WROTE AND BELIEVE THE PROPER THING HERE IS FOR YOU TO BE GONE...PERMANENTLY...YOUR JUST FLAT OUT WRONG, FLAT OUT ILL INTENDED, AND FLAT OUT BAD FOR THIS FORUM!!! !!!
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Slipp_Digby for president!
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*ouch Spart, calm down. Enjoy the movie and do a review. I ´d like to read that. We germans have to wait another two months, how nice is that.. cheers
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Hope you enjoy it Sparty, will be glad to know what you thought!
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Well well it would seem someone has been at the Black Goo again..... As being a victim to one of Spartacus's incoherent, unjustified, email bashing. I just felt Compelled. This latest rant is bordering insane, and you have dug yourself a hole, the size of a Damon lindelof script. Your review, will have an unhealthy bias, methinks , you sir are compromised. Have a good time, Im sure you will..... Or will you?

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