Haven't seen a movie this bad since Dragon Wars

@Lopan :When entering the planets atmosphere how comes the Prometheus ship just so happens to arrive right outside the engineers ship? Just pure coincidence? *They probly sent other ships out to map the area or just luck 2: Why is it when old man Wayland is discovered not one crew member said anything about him being there? *Because all the people that didnt know were already dead 3: Why did Shaw tell the security guy "No Weapons" when there is clearly Aliens present ? That is just silly. *They werent sure if there truly were aliens there. Also why would you attack the people that "invited" you 4: What an earth did the first scene with the Engineer drinking and dying have to do with any part of the movie? *this was the scene that showed how humans came to be. 5: Why did the space jockey (Engineer) just get up and attempt flying back to earth? He could have got up at any time the millions of years he was there. Why now? *someone had to wake him up, he went to sleep before they all died 6: Shaw gives birth to a baby alien yet she is now fine to run around within 2 mins? None of the crew question or ask her if she is ok after having an Alien removed from herself. *Shes just awsome like that. As for the crew i cant answer that lol why wouldnt you ask wtf happend when she comes stumbling out all bloody 7: Why does the captain always ask where people are or what they are doing when he has a huge hologram map on the deck along with cameras attached to every crew member? *To get their point of veiw? 8: How did they find the planet that was billions of miles from earth? *they explaind that. the scientists pressed the cube and talked about how it was the only solar system that matched the pictures. do you really want to sit through another hour showing how they found it???? 9: When the two crew members were lost why did the captain not just watch the camera footage instead of everyone randomly just going onto the planet searching ? Again they are all tagged why not look on the giant hologram that tells them as it beeps the whole movie? *Static from the storm made it impossible to get an accurate fix. Not to mention he was to busy screwing the blonde chick when their call came in This is just my POV it made sence to me and I really enjoyed the movie

1:When entering the planets atmosphere how comes the Prometheus ship just so happens to arrive right outside the engineers ship? Just pure coincidence? [i]We saw them flying over the planet's surface for a litle while, before going through a pass where sraight lines popped up on a screen. How much more time should they have spent doing that while we watched the scenery.......I mean after all, it [i]could[/i] have required many hours........right[/i]? 2: Why is it when old man Wayland is discovered not one crew member said anything about him being there? [i]Uh.....see, he[i] paid[/i] for the whole trip. If he didn't want everyone to know, they wouldn't. [/i] 3: Why did Shaw tell the security guy "No Weapons" when there is clearly Aliens present ? That is just silly. [i]Conflicting agendas all over the ship......would it have been more credible for an idealistic Scientist to strap on a pulse-rifle/grenade launcher?[/i] 4: What an earth did the first scene with the Engineer drinking and dying have to do with any part of the movie? [i]It speaks to their culture....and perhaps, early examples of [i]human[/i] culture........the concept of sacrifice is an important component of [i]many[/i] human religions, for example........see the connection now?[/i] 5: Why did the space jockey (Engineer) just get up and attempt flying back to earth? He could have got up at any time the millions of years he was there. Why now? [i]He was there for 2000 years, not millions......but good question. If he wasn't sleeping on a timer, what was the plan? Do you suppose it's pure coincidence that the urns started oozing the black goo when humans entered the "temple"....or is there, perhaps, more to it, than that?[/i] 6: Shaw gives birth to a baby alien yet she is now fine to run around within 2 mins? None of the crew question or ask her if she is ok after having an Alien removed from herself. [i]Only David knew, beforehand. We don't know exactly what the rest of the crew knew afterwards. Shaw makes it down the corridor, while jamming herself with pain-killers, but then she collapses. No one could have talked to her to learn exactly what happened. Presumably, David told them some story, but almost certainly not the truth, since the squid thing is still around at the end. [/i] 7: Why does the captain always ask where people are or what they are doing when he has a huge hologram map on the deck along with cameras attached to every crew member? [i]The only time I remember seeing remote video feeds, was during their outings to the "temple" complex. The spheres only mapped inside the temples to some extent.....When Janet exclaims: "What the hell is going on down there," they're inside the hangar bay. Why would they be feeding remote video from there?[/i] 8: How did they find the planet that was billions of miles from earth? All we see is "Movie intro at cave in Scotland" .... "Oh there is a picture of some people who i think are gods" ... "They want us to find them" (Cut scene) "Captain we are here at the planet." [i]They found the planet, by matching up the star pattern in early human art-works, with images from telescopes. Humans have already explored a large swath of space by this time......finding a planet within the habitable zones of a particular cluster of stars would presumably not be all that complicated.[/i] 9: When the two crew members were lost why did the captain not just watch the camera footage instead of everyone randomly just going onto the planet searching ? Again they are all tagged why not look on the giant hologram that tells them as it beeps the whole movie? [i]Did those spheres actually provide real-time tracking of humans in the corridors, even after they'd moved beyond line-of-sight?.......cuz, it wouln't really make sense if they did.[/i] 10: Overall a huge let down of a movie. There were so many distracting plot holes and pointless thing's happening it become silly watching it. I also witnessed people leaving the cinema which i have never seen. [i]That opinion is valid for you, but not necessarily, anyone else.[/i]

Honestly, a lot of what you asked will probably be revealed in the DVD extras, but I'll throw in my bits. 1:When entering the planets atmosphere how comes the Prometheus ship just so happens to arrive right outside the engineers ship? Just pure coincidence? The ship comes through, spots something, investigates. Do you really need a "we've been flying around for an hours and nothing" scene where just when everyone's frustrated they find something? For the sake of time they happen upon something of interest without every detail being unnecessarily hashed out. 2: Why is it when old man Wayland is discovered not one crew member said anything about him being there? Again, may be in the extras, but by the time he shows up most of the people that his daughter didn't hire personally are dead and it can probably be assumed that everyone else knew. If they didn't, oh well. 3: Why did Shaw tell the security guy "No Weapons" when there is clearly Aliens present ? That is just silly. They had no proof of any life when they first left the ship, let alone hostile life so they didn't take weapons. They are assuming these are our creators who invited us to come to them once we were capable, so perhaps they didn't think showing up with glocks blazing was the way to go. 4: What an earth did the first scene with the Engineer drinking and dying have to do with any part of the movie? The Engineer dying seeded the waters on Earth or whatever planet that was. 5: Why did the space jockey (Engineer) just get up and attempt flying back to earth? He could have got up at any time the millions of years he was there. Why now? As someone else already posted either another person or some system would have had to awaken him. Never seen a hint in any movie with cryosleep that one can simply exit it at will. 6: Shaw gives birth to a baby alien yet she is now fine to run around within 2 mins? None of the crew question or ask her if she is ok after having an Alien removed from herself. As far as running around, did you not notice how many different things she injected herself with and all the pills she took? She hopped herself up on pain meds and stimulants. The old man and his flunkies saw her as a non-issue. The captain did ask if she was ok. 7: Why does the captain always ask where people are or what they are doing when he has a huge hologram map on the deck along with cameras attached to every crew member? This seemed a little silly even to me. I understand that perhaps coordinates weren't exact, but he should have had a general idea of where everyone was. As the life reading from the one area only came up at times it's clear the scanners and relays weren't perfect, but that was a little silly. 8: How did they find the planet that was billions of miles from earth? All we see is "Movie intro at cave in Scotland" .... "Oh there is a picture of some people who i think are gods" ... "They want us to find them" (Cut scene) "Captain we are here at the planet." Again, I'm sure this will be in the extras/extended cut. That said, this is something they could have taken an extra few minutes to work into the plot. 9: When the two crew members were lost why did the captain not just watch the camera footage instead of everyone randomly just going onto the planet searching ? Again they are all tagged why not look on the giant hologram that tells them as it beeps the whole movie? Location wise I'm assuming that their locators were damaged in some way that prevented the signal from showing up until the geologist was reasonably close to the ship. Not checking the video feed made no sense though. As much as was spent on the expedition there's no way every second wasn't being recorded. 10: Overall a huge let down of a movie. There were so many distracting plot holes and pointless thing's happening it become silly watching it. I also witnessed people leaving the cinema which i have never seen. I enjoyed it and definitely would see it again. Probably will because the visuals just won't be anywhere near as amazing on a tv set. There were definitely holes, and some things felt "off" like a violent destroyer using a flute-driven ship, though I'm assuming there are others of his race not bent on wiping earth out as a failed experiment. Some things could have been developed better. The octopi mutations just felt a little contrived. Seems like they could have come up with something a little better. Regardless, I was satisfied

god get fucking wrecked Lopan lolol

Lopan, I'm with full agreement. Been at this website since its inception. I watched it today. As I walked out today of the theater, I asked myself do I need to watch this again. Then I stopped. I realized at that point that I was just being a fan boy. I was attempting to justify liking this film for several reasons... namely Prometheus being the most anticipated film that I ever wanted to watch. My expectations weren't set to high. I could care less wether I didn't see the any aliens from the movie Alien or any direct connection to its predecessor. If it was a movie that stood on it's own then so be it. It just didn't cut it, and for me, it's the first time I've seen a Ridley Scott film that didn't meet my expectations. It was lacking in so many areas, and the plot was most disappointing. Honestly, some of the stories many people theorized at this website were much better. Damon Lindelof's writing as always leaves more questions than answers and I feel the source of my dislike. In the theater, I didn't see anybody walk out. There wasn't applause. What I did see were people sighing and bored. The main look I saw on people's faces once the film was over... "that's all this was?" I knew something was going to be wrong when I saw the concession stand clerk tell me that the film had him yearning for more. I've sobered up. I was a fan and the marketing got me hyped up but more than anything it was the fact that one of my favorite directors was back in science fiction. Don't know maybe when it's released on Blue-Ray and see a director's cut and see all the footage that was edited out will this movie solidify.

@Lopan - many of your questions and supposed plot holes were actually answered in the film. To answer some of your issues... (although others have also answered many of these) #1 - how they immediately found the alien installation -- pointed out by another poster but there are supposedly hundreds of these ships around the moon. Though I suppose something could have been said about locating a structure in a scan and heading in that direction. #2 -- Shaw did question Weyland being on the ship when she saw him. Other than the few scientists the rest where ship crew and they probably knew he was aboard. Many of them would have to in order to prep him when removed from stasis #3 - Why didn't Shaw want to bring weapons... Shaw is a scientist, not military. Her assumption was that these alien engineers had created us and were therefore our benign forefathers. Why would she want to bring weapons? #4 - first scene with engineer drinking liquid and dying -- this was already answered perfectly by another poster; an alien priest sacrificing himself to create us #5 - space jockey suddenly getting up from stasis -- already answered as well but he didn't get up on his own did he? David got him out of stasis #6 - Shaw running around after surgically removing the alien -- she was doped up on pain killer and probably didn't feel much of the pain in spite of the physical internal damage all the running around may have been causing (cortisone in torn knees, etc); also, only David knew she was carrying an alien in her. No one else was present when they learned this. So no one could rightly ask her about it #7 - Captain asking people where they are -- I concede this point somewhat but a case could be made that the hologram, although informative, wasn't completely adequate to determine all the info he required #8 - how they found the planet billions of miles away -- they explained this clearly.... the constellation pattern on the petroglyphs and cave paintings all matched up perfectly to a constellation pattern/planetary system they eventually discovered and so knew how to locate this #9 - two crew members lost, why not look at camera footage -- their helmets and cameras were destroyed, perhaps any recorded footage wasn't viable #10 - don't understand what you mean by pointless things happening. Ridley Scott didn't intend to make an "Alien" movie. That crap is totally played out. The intent was to create an "origin" movie. Frankly the idea of the alien being a genetically engineered biological weapon rather than an organically evolved species is freaking cool. The one issue I really have is the fact that in the original Alien the Space Jockey was discovered in his pilot's chair with his chest burst open. This jockey was in the life pod. I doubt this huge fact was overlooked though so I can only imagine there are more engineers in other ships on the planet and that this new alien bursting from the engineer's chest at the end is the beginning of this new species with perhaps even a Queen being made to lay the eggs eventually found by the Nostromo crew.

Though I will admit, although I enjoyed the film (I didn't go in with major expectations after reading critic reviews ahead of time), it certainly didn't measure up to the hype. Of course the visuals were stunning and the creature effects were cool. And the premise was excellent. But the narrative did slow a bit and the few scenes that tension was starting to build didn't last nearly long enough. Overall rating 3 out of 5. Though many will think I'm being too generous

@Lopan I enjoyed the film because I know how to pay attention, sorry but I lost all patience with you people wildly bashing the film. I understand that you didn't like the movie, but your reasons for it are dumb. You nit picked it dry and half of these questions you should have known the answer to if you know...PAID ATTENTION TO THE MOVIE. I respect your opinion but in all honesty I think your are a dumbass.

@Nick - I couldn't agree more

Almost all of Zopans's complaints are on the money. I think Prometheus suffers from sequel-itis. After FiField gets ran over by the rover where did those crew members go. They did not return to the ship. If so, why did Janek gives his copilots the option to leave with Vikers, but let the rest of the crew go down with the ship? That doesn't sound right so I believe they are still on the surface in the rover.

Loud applause at the end of mine too.....Everyone seemed to love it. The atmosphere was electrifying. I just can't imagine someone walking out on this movie unless the AC as broke or their were sound/video issues.

I thought the movie was good ... not great ... but good. The cinematic stuff was excellent. Some of the best visuals I've ever seen. There were however plot elements that seem more akin to mistakes (imo) than well thought-out plot riddles (to be solved in later films). For example: If the Engineers left multiple invitation for mankind (over thousands of years ) to visit them ... a sign of friendship (if not "fatherly" love) ... why would it be to a military outpost dedicated to bio weapons? Why not their actual home world (or at least a friendly location)? To be clear, the bio-weapons military outpost was what the captain deduced it to be in the movie ... and judging from spartan living conditions of the planet, how the facilities were structured, the contents of the facilities (hazmat material all over, deadly substances and denizens), and the few signs of civilization ... I am inclined to agree that's what the planet was. So again, why invite humanity to visit that planet? Some mistakes are easily corrected or ignored ... this for me is a significant one (which might require logic gymnastics to explain away). Another one that bothered me a bit (because it's linguistics 101) is how the android supposedly trained to speak the Engineers language. That's not possible without a rosetta stone of sorts. How can we know what an alien language sounds like without having a template (like Aramaic is to Hebrew)? Ughh ... that one was ugly beacuse it should have been easily avoided (or at least explained in this movie ... if there is an answer ... not later). Also, I am not sure if I recall this correctly (since I only saw the movie once) but did I hear the female main character correctly when she confronts the awakening engineer (as the others where asking her to shut up)? Did she ask why they (the Engineers) no longer want humanity ... or want us dead (or something to that effect)? When did she come to that conclusion??? Up until that point, all chaos ha broken loose around her due to infection and dangerous creatures. For all she knew at that point, the Engineers themselves seemed to have been overcome by the same things that was reigning death on her crew mates. maybe I missed something there. All that said, I think the movie was entertaining and leaves the door wide open for a great new Arch on the Aliens theme.

One last thing. Regarding the first opening scene where the alien drinks that vial and begins to disintegrates as he falls into the waterfall. I am not so sure that was earth. No who can say with certainty what earth looked like millions of years ago ... but that landscape did not look like earth to me. In fact, to me it looked like the very same planet the human crew visits later in the Prometheus! Almost identical topside as they were flying down onto the planet. I took that opening scene as a suicide of sorts as the alien seemed to know exactly what he was doing. It dawned on me as the movie progressed, that perhaps (in that opening scene) he knew he was infected and decided to kill himself (and the thing inside him) rather than die by letting the host come to full term. Also, if you all recall, the discussion between the crew and the female protagonist. She was asked why they were called Engineers ... what did they in fact engineer? And she says us. OK, well ... That opening scene wasn't exactly an act of engineering ... even for god-like beings. The process of genetic mutation through evolution, natural selection, and on a different planet with different climate, environs, and foreign organisms completely does away with the notion of engineering. That's more like ... err ... seeding than engineering. Also, those aliens sure as hell did not display any ceremonial culture. They came across as very pragmatic, discerning, methodical, militant even. So the whole notion of the alien in the opening seen performing some kind of sacrificial act of life from death (as offered by others on this board) seems unlikely to me. Food for though anyway ...

@Ecotopius -- Perhaps Shaw misinterpreted the heiroglyphs and cave paintings. Maybe they weren't benign invitations but warnings. As or the linguistics issue, perhaps the varied ancient earth cultures and languages have origins in the original alien language. It was clear they didn't simply create us and leave us to our devices. They visited and were perhaps integral to early cultures and the development of language. If that is the case then these ancient languages would serve as the rosetta stone. When the female scientist Shaw attempts to ask the engineer about why they wanted them dead, she and the captain had already discussed the fact that this was a bio weapons facility with plans of heading back to earth. I do agree that things were left hanging and that they probably had their eye on a sequel the entire time they're creating this. A few issues here and there but overall a good flick.

Just got back from seeing Prometheus. In a nutshell I really liked it though it wasn't as good as I'd hoped. To those saying "how come they land right next to the silos?" and "why do we cut from the caves to the planet arrival?" I think it's simple: pacing. There's nothing to gain by looking through the NASA database nor landing on an empty part of the planet. Personally I didn't like Shaw's knowledge of everything. She's meant to be an archaeologist, but knows how to reanimate a corpse head a perform a C-section? The guy cooing to the cobra drove me nuts. The finale where it goes from "So, could you fly the big horseshoe?" to Zoooooom, felt a bit naff. But it was still great. Got a lot from it as a fan of Alien, even if I'm immensely confused about the black goop: why does it kill the lone Engineer at the beginning then presumably start life, but later appears to mutate others into semi-Engineers, but appears to belong to the cobra species? How do we then go from first Xeno to the egg-laden bomber of the 1979 Alien? Though I reckon the later is the guts of a sequel: Shaw and David find the Engineers and unwittingly bring a shiny new mate.

Cat, A misinterpretation (from warning to invitation) would be plausible if it were done once ... but repeatedly over mellenia? ... to a primitive people? I'm not sure that holds water. Also, what would that do to the argument that they helped shaped our cultures and languages? There is an incongruity between creating us .... warning us to stay away from them ... and guiding our growth over the eons. It does seem to me that the multiple pictograms over the mellenia were in fact invitations. If so, perhaps one can make a case for the alien language serving as the "mother" language of mankind ... but it came across as far more complex than any language spoken 35000 years (or more ago) don't you think? Far more complex. And mankind's languages have split so drastically over the past 35000 years to boot. I just wished they put a little more effort in explaining some things ... this was one of them. Finally, regarding Shaw and the captain talking about the alien heading back to earth with the bio weapons ... I'm not sure how Shaw and the captain can assume that was a goal of the aliens. How was that deduced? Again, maybe I missed something. As you said though ... a good flick nonetheless.

PPH <<>> Multiple PHDs? I don't know but I thought the same thing when I saw a scalpel in her hand. ;-) <<>> LMAO!!! Hilarious.

I can't remember what his profession was, but everyone knows you don't go cooing strange alien worms, especially when they go all cobra. What did he think would happen? Scratch behind the ear and rub on its belly?

Strange how people cry about plotholes and still did not recognize important details. And its a movie that demands a little imagination from yourself. By the way, I think later on in the film DRAGON WARS kicked ass!

@Lopan I put to you that you are completely WRONG and it is IN FACT the exact Opposite... Anyone saying this was NOT a FANTASTIC movie has to be a little MORE THAN simple minded and know Very Little about how to make an outstanding film and that they went into this thing expecting the film to be what their ego told them it had to be and because it wasn't their ego decided to write a post for them while the boatman forgot to watch the rest of the lighhouse! I also resent your post in a big way...Because it is IN FACT the opposite and YOU lack some creativity in your diet apparently!! I respect your right to your opinion just think it is the opinion of a spoiled person that thought they knew better what Ridley should do with his own freaking film and his own freaking writers. [b] So PLEASE to validate and lend some credibility to your rediculous, in my opinion anyway, opinion, show me the film you just made that's Better...you sure talk the talk...do you walk the walk?[/b]

@Those responding to my long post with view's etc. Some points perhaps maybe some of you are right. But for the most part in saying that everyone of you come back with a totally different answer shows it does not explain itself leading it to the mess that it is. We all love different types of movie but claiming this is worthy of praise or even a classic is both insulting and a bad state for cinema if this is the "BAR" of great film making. Just in comparison a movie like District 9 is layers ahead of what this attempted to do. @czelaya at least someone on here is seeing past the the foggy mist of fanboy madness. I am a fanatic fanboy of Star Wars and to me this is the same to the series as what the Phantom was to the franchise. If you do not understand that then you are clueless. I remember Being on the official Phantom forum at the time and people coming with some praise of how clever it was. "No mate the director and writers made a shit film".

@P_Pigly_Hogswine Just pointed out something i had not even thought amongst all the other floors. How an earth can an archaeologist perform a C-section? I am awaiting some silly comment from someone now saying "She said she used to be a nurse" Sorry i just don't buy it.

@logan I loved "District9" and completely disagree with you, respect your right to your own opinion, but completely disagree with you, and again, I loved District9...because it was "CREATIVE". No where near as much as this film was, but it was "CREATIVE". I look forward to a part 2 of that!

@schwarzbaer666 I here what you are saying but if you watch a movie over 2 hours long and for the most part you are saying "That is just silly" how can you take it seriously and enjoy it? I had this same feeling when watching 300. Visually mind blowing and for it's time way ahead of anything i had seen. But it suffered to many questions (plot holes) that were not thought out ahead of. From every review i have read it seems it was a different movie to everyone that watched it. That alone states it did not have a strong script or story.

I am willing to bet that 90% of those who enjoyed the film are American and 90% of those who didn't enjoy it are European/Aussie/Kiwi (intelligent countries)

Spartacus resent my thought's all you like. You have not said anything to convince me otherwise. I have pointed out thing's that ruin the movie. Bladerunner = Classic Alien = Classic District 9 = Classic Empire Strikes Back = Classic Jaws = Classic Predator = Classic The Thing = Classic Prometheus = Really? Time will tell if my so called rant was trash talk. But the 6/10 average rating on most media sources clearly show i cannot be far wrong. I did not expect an Alien movie but needless to say i am a fanboy that won't fall for a dismal effort for film making. We can all back here in 12 months time and overall i will not be wrong.

SamboJim you are probably right. So who is right and who is wrong ? For me i just need a movie to mean something. I came away dreading the fact Ridley is currently working on a Bladerunner prequel. There comes a time as you get older to think. Just leave it be. Total Recall , Robocop, Jaws, Top Gun 2, Akira, Spiderman .... Hollywood is not what it used to be in leading the world of cinema. Redcliff , 13 assassins etc are leaps and bound's ahead of the trash that is put out every summer. Oh hang on , there is bound to be remakes of them coming soon !

all those films are classics and so is Prometheus I agree with your entire list surprisingly but disagree completely with your thoughts on Prometheus, you seem impatient and that's the point I think as the next 2 films are presented to you that potential patience could be rewarded. But in no way do I agree that Prometheus is anything less than a 9 out 10 film...you have to THINK and come up with your own solutions if you need answers which people who understand how films are made do not and YOU it seems, wanted Direct Answer to Direct questions left over from the other franchise films...3/4's of going to the theater is all about audio/visual experience and it sounds like you do not do the proper thing and see this thing in IMAX 3D. ...Sorry...lol...spoken like "Gilly" [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/sorry.gif[/img]

and I am sorry but this film in the very least was 100% as exciting and fast and well done as BLADE RUNNER, but for one thing, it was 50 million times LESS BORING THAN BLADE RUNNER, go watch blade runner again man today !!!

Spartacus that is a terrible thing to say. But you have made my day. The mentality of people to think is hilarious. Good day to you normal person.