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xemu
MemberOvomorphJun-09-2012 8:18 AMA king has his reign, then he dies. Its inevitable.
Ridley may now lay claim to the worst dialogue in a big budget sci-fi film ever. Lindelof and Spaihts are officially a couple of hacks, who somehow managed to pull a rug over the master of the genre.
The crew, on a trillion dollar mission, are a shallow group of bumbling stooges.
Swiss cheese resembles the incoherent plot.
Without a good story, visuals are best enjoyed with the mute button on.
You will be very disappointed.
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kook
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 4:25 AMI have to say I agree with the OP, though not as harshly. I went to see the movie in Imax the other day with four other friends. We all came to the same conclusion that the visuals were good but the pace was too quick and the dialogue/script were very poor in places.
Will be watching it again though to give it another chance, maybe when the Blueray is out.

The High Priest
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 8:34 AMOK - I agree with the OP 100%.
When multi millionaire filmakers/writers/producers are failing to get the basics correct that shows utter contempt to the audience.
I can forgive so much in a movie but when you have sloppy basics it cant be overlooked.
All the people that love this film so much must not have an understanding of how a successful screenplay is created. Protagonist/Antagonist - Character arcs, pacing, intelligent dialogue, flow, timing and above all a story with a beginning, middle and end (yes, I know its part of a trilogy - potentially but it still needs to stand alone) that concludes, and better still leaves much to be discussed and built on later. District 9 is a classic example of that if we are talking modern sci-fi (yes Frantz - I know you will hate that movie just like you hated the Star Trek re-boot - that to be honest has one of the most exciting openings to any film in history yet you dont see it, you think its shit -That says soooo much about you Frantz).
So y'all think Prometheus ticks all the above criteria do ya?
You think its got interesting characters?
You think it has great pacing?
You think it has intelligent dialogue?
three simple words to you - EMPERORS NEW CLOTHES

colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 9:33 AMI see that there are numerous posters saying that the caliber and expectations of the movie need to be realized because this movie is not a rehash of Alien.
Ok, I understand that but from the director who made the original; I was expecting some sci-fi horror, a great story that makes sense and good acting. What he did is what he always does and that is create great visuals.
Movie is doing decent thus far at the box office but lets see if it could make 250 million worldwide. I am still thinking it is going to take a big tank on the next weekend with only die hard fans viewing the movie again for a second/third or forth time.
This movie will have a cult-following nevertheless but in my views; it does not meet what a cult-classic contains.

Reimer
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 4:00 PMThe film was so inane that it cemented my hunch that Scott's status as "visionary" is based on two films he made long, long ago that had already been in development by people of substance in the ideas and execution department. It really doesn't deserve a sequel. The closing scene of the 'Deacon' thing, so reminiscent of the baby-Godzilla at the end of the 1998 'Godzilla', was the final insult.

GetEveryone
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 4:18 PMThis just in:
People have different opinions, cats fight dogs, grass is green.
Weather at 10.

visualizer
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 4:24 PM@xemu
I absolutely agree with you. I´ve seen it twice now, because someone in here made the crazy claim that watching it again would magically turn this average sci-fi action flick into a brilliant movie - guess what?...it didn´t.
I normally wouldn´t find it fair to compare sci-fi movies with "Alien" or "Blade Runner", but this time around it´s justified, because Ridley himself elevated this movie into the realm of sci-fi grandeur.
After a lot of thinking and analyzing, I think that my biggest disappointment with this movie is, that it doesn´t take its own potential seriously. Instead of turning its brilliant premise into an intense, disturbing fabel of creation, it randomly throws its ideas around and settles for indifferent action spiced up with a Jurassic Park-esque score.

XENOWHAT
MemberOvomorphJun-10-2012 8:44 PMIs somebody out there going to try to say that this movie is in the same caliber as Alien, Blackhawk Down Gladiator and Kingdom of Heaven?

msepsis
MemberOvomorphJun-11-2012 12:35 PMcompletely agree 100% with xemu's comments. When "it's just a movie" is the best explanation that can be given for all the inept story telling it's pretty clear the story teller is inept. The buck stops with Ridley Scott, the guy seems like a fraud if this was his idea of a ground breaking science fiction film. It was FILLED with cliches.
From taking their helmets off on a foreign planet to getting a precise location on a moon within a solar system in a star map who's stars are light years apart from each other,... I had hardly taken my jacket off in the theatre before I realized this was not a film to take seriously.
Who picked these clowns to be on this "scientific journey"??

VaderTime
MemberOvomorphJun-11-2012 1:25 PM@xemu
Agreed. Plot is swiss cheese at best and character development is non-existent.

RPI
MemberOvomorphJun-12-2012 1:50 PMRidley Scott should be embarrassed. Has Hollywood forgtten how to tell a story. Conceptually it was epic the execution was rank amaturish. Ridley Scott has entered my hall of shame.

Newts brother heathcliffe
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:11 AMI am glad his thread was started. The movie had no real substance, to try and label this a master piece is ridiculous. For those that claim this is epic compared to other sci-fis I really do have to question how many films you've seen and what they actually were. I can't think of one a-list film that this can be compared as a master piece to, not one!

Newts brother heathcliffe
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:21 AMI am glad his thread was started. The movie had no real substance, to try and label this a master piece is ridiculous, I really do have to question how many films you've seen and what they actually were. I can't think of one a-list film that this can be compared as a master piece, not one!

Newts brother heathcliffe
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:22 AMI am glad his thread was started. The movie had no real substance, to try and label this a master piece is ridiculous, I really do have to question how many films you've seen and what they actually were. I can't think of one a-list film that this can be compared as a master piece, not one!

Newts brother heathcliffe
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:26 AMI am glad his thread was started. The movie had no real substance, to try and label this a master piece is ridiculous, I really do have to question how many films you've seen and what they actually were. I can't think of one a-list film that this can be compared as a master piece, not one!

Newts brother heathcliffe
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:31 AMI am glad his thread was started. The movie had no real substance, to try and label this a master piece is ridiculous, I really do have to question how many films you've seen and what they actually were. I can't think of one a-list film that this can be compared as a master piece, not one!

alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 3:38 AMi think one of the most disturbing things about any of this is the fact that pre prometheus opening the director one who i think is a great film maker, and the cast were all saying that the script was amazing, a real page turner, and couldn't put it down, some even reported on reading it over and over it was so good, this has to be addressed if a sequel is contemplated the dialogue was some of the worst in recent years for a ridley film and the character dynamics were incredibly poor.
That said i still feel he has one of the best eyes in the business but his judgement on scripts is most certainly in question. American gangster was a masterpiece in script dynamics compared to this. A different genre but great character development that made you care.

Hadley's Hope
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 4:27 AMWell, the review I was going to write was similar. I was VERY disappointed and confused by the plot.
I started writing a review, came here to post it in fact, ripping on the character plot, the odd abstract philosophical talks, and the mythology that was layered on with a trowel, I realised that they were three different layers of the film, which interact, and we're supposed to guess which to believe.
I know LOVE this film. Every scene is a trap, and if you're confused you have to go back and figure out where you've gone wrong.
Ridley Scott is a devious man.

alteredstate.
MemberOvomorphJun-13-2012 4:43 AMGlad to hear you have you multi dimensional brain in good working order while the rest of us poor unintelligent suckers for great script writing need to pass a mensa test to work out this incredibly sophisticated, detailed multi layered work, of cryptic script writing genius.

Bardlover
MemberOvomorphJun-15-2012 12:10 PMThank God (or the Engineers) for Michael Fassbender. Without his superb performance as David [i]Prometheus[/i] would have been a disaster - atrociously written, pretentious and forgettable. I've loved science fiction my whole life and I'm willing to suspend my disbelief, but there has to be a limit. Never in the history of fictional space exploration has so much stupidity been concentrated in a crew of 17, most of whom seemed to be competing in a game of Who'll be the First to End Up as Monster Fodder. Had I realized that one of the writers was responsible for [i]Lost[/i] I probably wouldn't have seen the film at all.
I didn't take much notice of the media hype surround the film's release and I'd also read a couple of scathing reviews before I saw it, so my expectations weren't unrealistically high. Even so, I spent most of the 124 minute running time inwardly groaning at scientific howlers, unintentionally hilarious dialogue and senseless plot twists. Was I the only person to wonder what real science fiction writers such as Alistair Reynolds, Iain M Banks or Stephen Baxter could have come up with based on the 'Engineers created us' premise?
[i]Prometheus[/i] certainly looks gorgeous and the special effects are stunning; in fact I left my critical faculties in the lobby and saw the film again solely to enjoy its visual delights (which include Mr Fassbender, an actor I'd barely heard of before). But on the whole I feel that [i]Prometheus[/i] is a wasted opportunity trading on the public's enthusiasm for the first two films in the franchise.

BarelyPolitical
MemberOvomorphJun-19-2012 7:48 PMA group of us went to see Prometheus recently and had the same reaction as many of you on this thread. First we all got really mad and yelled at each other about the bad writing, the inaccurate science, worn out cliches, gaping holes in the plot, the ridiculousness of old-man-Guy-Pearce, etc. No one was briefed BEFORE they took off into space? What the hell were these people thinking?
We were so mad! Then everything became funny. Then we made this video. It's for lulz.
[b]This may answer any questions as to the training Prometheus crew members had before the mission~ [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFYmv6t_Xyg]Prometheus Training![/url][/b]
[img]http://i2.ytimg.com/vi/yFYmv6t_Xyg/mqdefault.jpg[/img]
Check us out at [url=www.youtube.com/barelypolitical]BarelyPolitical[/url]
Thanks!

Cygnus
MemberOvomorphJun-20-2012 4:14 PMGood grief, guys. I think it's safe to say that Ridley Scott is decidedly not stupid. The man has been making movies for at least three decades.
Those of you stating that the dialog was the worst of any sci-fi movie ever made leads me to the conclusion that none of you have seen Avatar.
Also, keep in mind that Ridley and company have given hints that there may be sequels in the future, and that the xenomorph is 2 - 3 movies away. He stated that this isn't a movie about the xenomorph, but a movie about the "big picture", as well as the Engineers.
If you think you're talented enough, then warm up your computer and start writing a sequel to Prometheus and give it to Ridley. No, Prometheus wasn't perfect, but I think it's safe to say that the armchair quarterbacks at this site could do no better than Lindelof or Spaihts.

Kane77
MemberOvomorphJun-21-2012 10:22 AMcome on guys..its an excuse.
If somebody like Scott is coming back after 33 Years to do an Alien Prequel its logical most people expect it to be at least solid written. Lets hope hes doing a fine Final Cut.
its no use
- try to fix the plot holes the movie has
- to speculate what he might have meant instead od whats plain to see on the screen
- release massive production stills, post production details and stuff
- hope Prometheus 2 will fix this
..when the actual movie itself cant hold the water by itself.

N8 W
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 9:46 AMxemu, op, highpriest, bardlover and barelypolitical (great video!!) are all correct. I wanted story. hadleys hope-- if the story was that "devious" then even a moron as I would have found it...
This movie blew chunks of what looked like an attempt at acting. 2 scientists frightfully yell “Let’s go back the ship” line and then “get lost”, find a friendly snake and want to pet it? Really? Can we no longer do this one? A self-assisted C-section of a squid baby? High gross factor but just added confusion. Captain Cool’s “let’s have sex” line and it works on the cast iron B**** of the galaxy? He plays the Concertina… am I to believe that she IS that hard up? The Captain has no semblance of a higher duty then flips the switch to “let’s save the earth thru self sarifice” mode? David had high potential but I think something was missing, he wasn’t sure if he was supposed to be evil because he was told to or because he is. How bout some 3 laws safe? Very impressed with his fastidiousness until the crew has morning sickness and he doesn’t even grab a mop. I won’t mention Mr. Pearce’s involvement in this, he should know better. Theron was the only one acting and she was held back, could have been a great “company” B**** (a real MR. Burns, Darth Vader, MOM, Burke), I actually felt bad for the movie when she died. How many trillion did Vickers say was spent on this expedition? And this is the “Crew” they could afford? Slackers ALL!! Scientists that say they’re in it for the money? Security officers that bring 1 shotgun/rifle like weapon, 1 handgun and a 6ft flame puffer to escort the company VIP to a galactic “meet the creators”? Medical personnel that couldn’t pass a CPR class (I’ve seen better extras plucked from the crowds of Cleveland), the writers need hung by thumbs till they learn how to write “people”. Horror can’t be Horror without the STORY and the visual. Horror is making a viewer FEEL like they are in a nazi death camp (no escape from a horrible death you KNOW is coming, forced to wait for it and then no “reason” for death) and you will have terror. Had the Sci-Fi down. Story? I missed it. I can’t believe that 70 years from now, long distance space travel is possible but nobody in the future has EVER seen a horror/sci-fi movie and learn’t anything, ie.. don’t wear a red shirt, don’t get separated from the group, don’t touch nothing, the air is NEVER safe to breath, you ARE expendable, somebody WILL betray you, bring extra ammo and most important of all; the dead thing isn’t dead. Special F/X and space F/X and music score were really good, BEAUTIFUL scenery, kudos.
Leave out of next movies:
1. Cliche
2. Under and Over acting (list entire cast minus Fassbender, Theron)
3. Story (you didnt put it this one, why change with tradition?)
4. Overused high speed race scenes, just park closer to the horror. How many times do they "speed" away? or to?
$9 and 2 hrs well spent... I was "entertained".

buddho
MemberOvomorphJun-22-2012 3:24 PMBarely Political
Thanks for the Preprequel. It was fantastic!

Ed Wood
MemberOvomorphJun-27-2012 7:30 AMbuddho,
It's replies like yours that bother me. You must be trolling.
I agree with xemu, the original poster. Prometheus was a disappointment. It wasn't the worst movie ever but neither was it magnificent or great. And it can be safely argued that Prometheus was not a good movie.
A lot of what is viewed as hate or one sided negative opinion comes from the commercial hype and audience expectation before Prometheus was released followed by abrupt disappointment when we saw it. We also feel we need to correct purely positive posts with pointing out reasons why Prometheus was not a great movie. And there are many reasons.
I gave Prometheus a 6/10.
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