Inconsistency with Space Jockey in Alien/last living Engineer in Prometheus?

Theia

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So in 'Alien', when Kane, Lambert, and Captain Dallas went to investigate the ship they found the space jockey sitting on that pilot seat. In Prometheus, we see the last living engineer to sit in the same position as how the Nostromo crew in 'Alien' found him sitting, (shown in this pic: http://www.prometheus-movie.com/gallery/view/img/336 ) when he was trying to get the spaceship to Earth. But towards the end of Prometheus, that same engineer went after Shaw - which means he got up from that 'pilot' seat to come and attack Shaw only to be killed by the giant Facehugger type creature and therefore could not be sitting back in that pilot seat. Anyone else notice this?

robotrogelio
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June 10, 2012

Ha, I just made a thread about this same thing. Its been bugging me for a few hours. Could it be that the Engineer who goes after Shaw, isn't quite dead and manages to craw back to the ship, put on his suit, hop in the chair, and then die?

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June 10, 2012

Or there may be other living Engineers on the other ships, David mentions.

Theia
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June 10, 2012

I considered that but thought it was highly unlikely as when the Nostromo crew found him, his chest had burst open (but he was in his 'suit') but in Prometheus, he wasn't in his suit when the alien burst out of him.

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June 10, 2012

I think it is obviously not the same engineer as he is dead when the new alien comes out of him. Who is to say that there aren't other Engineers in Cryo aboard one of the many other ships on LV223.

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June 10, 2012

The Planet in Alien was LV 426 the planet in Prometheus was I think LV 228, so totally different engineer. We may find out about the engineer in Alien in the next movie ( or not). You can see that Ridley wants this series to branch off into its own direction.

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June 10, 2012

Ahh different planets. Then why the connection with the ship? The crashed ship in Alien sure as hell looks a lot like the crashed ship in Prometheus.

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June 10, 2012

LV223 in Prometheus.

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Theia
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June 10, 2012

Robotrogelio, I agree with you! Lots of similarities for them to be two different planetoids. Also, the ship in Prometheus is activated by playing the flute thingy and I thought the only reason why the engineer activated that 'solo mode' (where he looks like he's riding a motorcycle - and in that position that the Nostromo crew found the space jockey) was because he's the lone survivor...so for those two ships from the two movies to have that similarity. hmmm.

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June 10, 2012

What's even more shocking is that there were at least 5, if not 6, more of those big ships on LV-223. All model year 50 AD with the new spaceship smell. ; )

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June 10, 2012

1: Other than the Bridge, the derelict interior is nothing like the inside of the Juggernaut. There are a number of large chambers separated by tubes, on the juggernaut, while most of the derelict was an immense, open cargo hold. 2: The two worlds are nothing alike. LV-426 is either in orbit around a white dwarf or quite some distance from a larger star, because even in "broad daylight," it's surface is quite dim. Light levels on LV-223 are much more Earth-like. Therefore, the derelict and juggernaut, [i]really are[/i] two different ships. LV-223 and LV-426 [i]really are[/i] two different worlds.

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June 10, 2012

Woo! Thanks for all the input everyone!

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June 10, 2012

Also, Ripley has stated that the derelict never crashed on LV-426.

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June 10, 2012

Two different ships... same design, just like all the space shuttles looked the same. Same species created them - although it's suggested (in Alien) that the ship there is older than the ones we see in Prometheus.

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June 10, 2012

Different ships different pilots different time frames.

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June 10, 2012

Where did he state that? Some of you have also missed another point which shows it's not the same ship. The bridge IS different. In Alien, when Dallas, Kane and Lambert find the Space jockey, there are no stasis pods visible. There were 4 pods on the bridge we see in Prometheus. LV-426 is 10 light years away from LV 223, orbiting a different star (still one of the six in the cave drawings though) and perhaps that's as far as a pilot would get taking off with stowaway xenomorphs or one's that have been stored without the proper safety precautions.

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June 10, 2012

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June 10, 2012

If I remember correctly, it was mentioned by Ridley in the Alien DVD Commentary.

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June 10, 2012

They estimate in Alien that the ship had been derelict for a few thousand years (the body fossilized, which hadn't yet happened to the preserved head in Prometheus), and the bridge is different with no stasis pods, and the engineer in that ship is 27 feet tall, more than twice the size of the variety we saw. I don't think the writers are just going to ignore those details, so there's a little more in store still if we're ever going to find out exactly what was going on there.

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June 10, 2012

Everyone has to forget about Alien. Prometheus is a new pillar in the alien franchise just like when predator was introduced to the series. The Ship in alien was over about thousands to millions years old and the planet was LV 426 and that ship was sending out a warning. Also did you notice that in alien there was no stasis chambers. That was easy. Its a different ship. The one in the movie is LV 223. So what happens to a weapon when you perfect it. Simple in the alien franchise it was an egg. So if millions of years pass they turned there weapon ifrom a biological agent into a viral agent. Where one drop can infect a human instead of an egg. Hope this helps.

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June 12, 2012

wow, i created an account just to ask this very question. many many ideas being tossed around.