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HIBERNATING ENGINEER SHOCKED AT SHAWS QUESTIONING

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Richie

MemberOvomorphJune 17, 2012
Before David even spoke the Engineer language, Shaw went at it non-stop asking the engineer why did you make this death and why are you destroying what you created...(not quotes). The engineer was so focused and disturbed at her questioning and would have gotten angrier if the old man didint have her shut up. Then, David speaks...and we know the rest. Aftdr the crash, he seeks her out with a vengenace...There is a personel connection here with the Egnineer and Shaw...She was asking the right questions
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There is a very interesting link here which contains a deleted scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=Vkin5bTeUls&feature=endscreen My interpretation of this that there are a multitude of reasons why the Engineer acted as he did. He does indeed seem to be very calm, intrigued and even amenable in expression when he first encounters the humans. But, for me, he appears particularly interested in at least three points of dialogue; most notably, Shaw's shouting, Weyland's treatment of her, and then Weyland's request. Weyland's dialogue (transcribed through David) smacks of breathtaking arrogance, asking for more life, and likening himself to a God - using his own creation of David to prove his point. In this version, it is then that the Engineer seems to be tipped off the edge - perhaps realising that humans have become too out of control, too unruly and too corrupt and that they ought to be destroyed once and for all. While these scenes were deleted from the final version, they may still give us some indication as to the motives of the Engineers. Weyland stating to the Engineer, "You and I are like Gods and Gods never die" seems to infuriate the Engineer and are particularly poignant, perhaps revealing that they may well be Human Gods themselves (or at least perceive themselves to be) who are then in turn horrified to learn that their creations have tried to emulate their creators. It all smacks of the modern notion of man believing that he has the capacity to control and outsmart mother nature.
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Well it depends how we are suposed to see the movie and interpret it... There are 3 main versions of the Prometheus movie, each shows a different set of conclusions if you interpret the clues.... 1) Theatrical release.... Here the Engineer is awoken he looks startled a bit shocked and and surprised and we can interpret this as imagine your asleep for so long and then woken up by the race you was supposed to had wiped out 2000 years ago... You would be surprised and shocked but then after gather your composure then you hear them speak... At first the Engineer seemed intrigued by the crew and especially the emotion in Shaws voice... Then David speaks in a tongue the Engineer can understand... (we have to remember the first few dialect was not shown, only after Weyland tells David "tell him why i came" as in what Weyland wants.. The Engineer then puts his hand on Davids head and then rips it off hits Weyland with it and goes bat crazy... What appears to happen is this... Engineer awakens is surprised and more so with Shaws emotional rant, then Engineer sees Weyland order her to be silence and order David a command, then David speaks to the Engineer and basically going by the dialect he speaks in the movie and compare it to the same in the deleted scene... in the deleted scene the Engineer speaks after the only dialect we get in the theatrical and Weyland asks what did he say... David says "i told him you want to live for ever" So we can thus assume that after Shaw is silenced the Engineer notes that this old man is in charge and he has no care for the other crew and uses David to translate... And David there for tells the Engineer that basically this old man has come to ask the Engineers for Immortality or longer life. The Engineer then senses something and places his hand on Davids head, realizes he is not Mortal and with that decides to punish the old man with the head of his own creation. We get the impression the Engineer is not happy with Mankind and having witnessed the way Weyland bosses and commands the others to silence Shaw and then ask a robot to ask the Engineer for more life, basically reaffirms the reasons the Engineers deemed we needed to be reset or wiped out... 2) The Deleted Scene, shows that before the Engineer gets out of his Cryo Pod and falls to his knees David is asked (by Weyland) to tell the Engineer that the crew came just as the Engineer had asked (Star Map invitation). Once David relays that message it soon gets the Engineers attention has he recognizes that one of them can speak the Engineers tongue this makes the Engineer very intrigued. The Engineer then takes a breath and falls to his knees and asks David... Why have the Humans come! This is when Shaw starts to ask questions the Engineer seems very intrigued with her and especially the emotion she is showing. Then he sees Weyland order her to be silenced and the Engineers face shows only concern for what she wants to know. Then Weyland interrupts and asks the David to tell the Engineer why he came (Weyland) and David tells the Engineer that Weyland wants to live forever... The Engineer shows a look of disgust on his face and his jestures seem to sugest he is offended that he has been asked such a thing, and the Engineer speaks in a angred voice. Weyland ask what he said, David says he told him that Weyland wants to live for ever, and David says the Engineer ask why... This is when Weyland points to David and rables on about how he created David and he sees himself as a creator and god like the Engineer and Gods never die.. We get a quick glance that the Engineer seems to reach to touch Weyland but it appears a shot is cut.... then the Engineer touches Davids Head and goes berserk.. I can only assume the Engineer touched Weyland and knew he was Mortal and Genetic and then touched David and knew he was not like the others and not Biological and thus then put 2+2 and roughly understood why Weyland wanted to be like the Engineers and live for ever because the old man deemed himself as a God. This did not set well with our Engineer and he decided to attack the crew... This explains more than the Theatrical Release, and gives clues that this Engineer was more surprised and intrigued by the crew and did not act aggressive until she saw how Weyland behaved ordering his Robot and Merc to speak for him and silence Shaw... The Engineer at this point, had confirmed that Mankind would have ended up as his brothers had feared and that Mankind would be a selfish race, who see themselves as Gods in their own right.. This could imply that it was mankinds attitude to serving the Engineers and doing stuff that disobeyed what the Engineers had intended for us... 3) We have the yet unseen Shots, now Fassbender said he had to learn page after page of dialect that he had to speak to the Engineer this could imply there may had been yet more dialect. The Sacrificial Engineer Actor Daniel James said he had to learn some Alien Dialect that he used in the Sacrificial Scene.... This implies the Scene had dialect between himself and the Elder. We have a scene that was not in the deleted scenes, of the Engineer kneeling down and reading a book found in Vickers quarters and this is at the same scene when he stares in admiration and intrigue at the Violin Girl and smiles... The watching of the Violin Girl shows the Engineer is very interested in how we have advanced and our culture and Music which may play a important factor with their race (Flute to activate the Control Console in Orrey Room).. If we add the not shown scene of him also taking a interest in the book he found on the floor, it all again adds to a different interpretation of these Engineers. It would appear that way that we was created by the Engineers/Elders or a fraction of them for a reason we do not know, but toes in that they had been to visit and nurture our people (explains the Star Maps). But there became a time that we had grown to be selfish, out of control, defiant and not subservient to the Engineer/Elders. I get the impression that a council or order of the Engineers decided that Mankind had to be punished and got rid of, just as God of the Bible did with the Great Flood... Only in the Bible God decided to save Noah and his sons as he saw them as good servants and clean... Maybe thus some of the Engineers thought there was hope for Mankind and we should be given a chance and that destroying the beloved creation is not the way to go.... Maybe this explains why the Last Engineer in deleted scenes did not seem that aggressive at first, maybe this is why the mission failed and he was the only survivor.. But his encounter with the crew showed him that Mankind had gone on to still be selfish, and that some of us would see our selves as God like and we have advanced and created life in our image to serve us (David). This Engineer realized at that point maybe the other Engineers who ordered our destruction was correct, and also that Mankind can now travel the Stars and found the LV 223 outpost and that if the Engineer did not stop all of us... then there is every possibility that more of us would come to LV 223 and get our hands on the Technology of the Engineers and the Forbidden Fruit that is contained within the Urns.. The Engineer would no doubt also know that the Androids can talk the Engineer tongue and no doubt also read their writing and use their Technology.. Ultimately if the Engineer had let us be, then there is the chance more of us would turn up and with Androids who could potentially work their Technology and as we see at the end of the movie that is the case... Well it depends how we are suposed to see the movie and interpret it... There are 3 main versions of the Prometheus movie, each shows a different set of conclusions if you interpret the clues.... 1) Theatrical release.... Here the Engineer is awoken he looks startled a bit shocked and and surprised and we can interpret this as imagine your asleep for so long and then woken up by the race you was supposed to had wiped out 2000 years ago... You would be surprised and shocked but then after gather your composure then you hear them speak... At first the Engineer seemed intrigued by the crew and especially the emotion in Shaws voice... Then David speaks in a tongue the Engineer can understand... (we have to remember the first few dialect was not shown, only after Weyland tells David "tell him why i came" as in what Weyland wants.. The Engineer then puts his hand on Davids head and then rips it off hits Weyland with it and goes bat crazy... What appears to happen is this... Engineer awakens is surprised and more so with Shaws emotional rant, then Engineer sees Weyland order her to be silence and order David a command, then David speaks to the Engineer and basically going by the dialect he speaks in the movie and compare it to the same in the deleted scene... in the deleted scene the Engineer speaks after the only dialect we get in the theatrical and Weyland asks what did he say... David says "i told him you want to live for ever" So we can thus assume that after Shaw is silenced the Engineer notes that this old man is in charge and he has no care for the other crew and uses David to translate... And David there for tells the Engineer that basically this old man has come to ask the Engineers for Immortality or longer life. The Engineer then senses something and places his hand on Davids head, realizes he is not Mortal and with that decides to punish the old man with the head of his own creation. We get the impression the Engineer is not happy with Mankind and having witnessed the way Weyland bosses and commands the others to silence Shaw and then ask a robot to ask the Engineer for more life, basically reaffirms the reasons the Engineers deemed we needed to be reset or wiped out... 2) The Deleted Scene, shows that before the Engineer gets out of his Cryo Pod and falls to his knees David is asked (by Weyland) to tell the Engineer that the crew came just as the Engineer had asked (Star Map invitation). Once David relays that message it soon gets the Engineers attention has he recognizes that one of them can speak the Engineers tongue this makes the Engineer very intrigued. The Engineer then takes a breath and falls to his knees and asks David... Why have the Humans come! This is when Shaw starts to ask questions the Engineer seems very intrigued with her and especially the emotion she is showing. Then he sees Weyland order her to be silenced and the Engineers face shows only concern for what she wants to know. Then Weyland interrupts and asks the David to tell the Engineer why he came (Weyland) and David tells the Engineer that Weyland wants to live forever... The Engineer shows a look of disgust on his face and his jestures seem to sugest he is offended that he has been asked such a thing, and the Engineer speaks in a angred voice. Weyland ask what he said, David says he told him that Weyland wants to live for ever, and David says the Engineer ask why... This is when Weyland points to David and rables on about how he created David and he sees himself as a creator and god like the Engineer and Gods never die.. We get a quick glance that the Engineer seems to reach to touch Weyland but it appears a shot is cut.... then the Engineer touches Davids Head and goes berserk.. I can only assume the Engineer touched Weyland and knew he was Mortal and Genetic and then touched David and knew he was not like the others and not Biological and thus then put 2+2 and roughly understood why Weyland wanted to be like the Engineers and live for ever because the old man deemed himself as a God. This did not set well with our Engineer and he decided to attack the crew... This explains more than the Theatrical Release, and gives clues that this Engineer was more surprised and intrigued by the crew and did not act aggressive until she saw how Weyland behaved ordering his Robot and Merc to speak for him and silence Shaw... The Engineer at this point, had confirmed that Mankind would have ended up as his brothers had feared and that Mankind would be a selfish race, who see themselves as Gods in their own right.. This could imply that it was mankinds attitude to serving the Engineers and doing stuff that disobeyed what the Engineers had intended for us... 3) We have the yet unseen Shots, now Fassbender said he had to learn page after page of dialect that he had to speak to the Engineer this could imply there may had been yet more dialect. The Sacrificial Engineer Actor Daniel James said he had to learn some Alien Dialect that he used in the Sacrificial Scene.... This implies the Scene had dialect between himself and the Elder. We have a scene that was not in the deleted scenes, of the Engineer kneeling down and reading a book found in Vickers quarters and this is at the same scene when he stares in admiration and intrigue at the Violin Girl and smiles... The watching of the Violin Girl shows the Engineer is very interested in how we have advanced and our culture and Music which may play a important factor with their race (Flute to activate the Control Console in Orrey Room).. If we add the not shown scene of him also taking a interest in the book he found on the floor, it all again adds to a different interpretation of these Engineers. It would appear that way that we was created by the Engineers/Elders or a fraction of them for a reason we do not know, but toes in that they had been to visit and nurture our people (explains the Star Maps). But there became a time that we had grown to be selfish, out of control, defiant and not subservient to the Engineer/Elders. I get the impression that a council or order of the Engineers decided that Mankind had to be punished and got rid of, just as God of the Bible did with the Great Flood... Only in the Bible God decided to save Noah and his sons as he saw them as good servants and clean... Maybe thus some of the Engineers thought there was hope for Mankind and we should be given a chance and that destroying the beloved creation is not the way to go.... Maybe this explains why the Last Engineer in deleted scenes did not seem that aggressive at first, maybe this is why the mission failed and he was the only survivor.. But his encounter with the crew showed him that Mankind had gone on to still be selfish, and that some of us would see our selves as God like and we have advanced and created life in our image to serve us (David). This Engineer realized at that point maybe the other Engineers who ordered our destruction was correct, and also that Mankind can now travel the Stars and found the LV 223 outpost and that if the Engineer did not stop all of us... then there is every possibility that more of us would come to LV 223 and get our hands on the Technology of the Engineers and the Forbidden Fruit that is contained within the Urns.. The Engineer would no doubt also know that the Androids can talk the Engineer tongue and no doubt also read their writing and use their Technology.. Ultimately if the Engineer had let us be, then there is the chance more of us would turn up and with Androids who could potentially work their Technology and as we see at the end of the movie that is the case... Well having Mankind using Androids to collect, and test the Urns and control the Juggernauts is well a TRUE HORROR! that can not be allowed to happen.

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