Space-Jockey skeleton/suit

The Space Jockey in Alien isn't an Engineer in a biosuit. It's what the Engineers based their biotech on. Just guessing, of course.

Quote: [b]snorkelbottom[/b] [size=50]For the billioneth time... 1 - The Engineer craft on LV-426 was forced to land there THOUSANDS of years ago. 2 - This is even hinted at in Alien by the decay of the dead Engineers suit. [/size] 1 - Speculation. 2 - Skeleton.

@ Little Incentive 1. Actually stated by Ridley scott just before the release of Prometheus, and shown in Alien, and shown by the vast difference in the interior designs of the ships. 2. In Prometheus it is shown very clearly that what we saw in Alien was not a skeleton but the remains of a bio-mechanical suit. Furthermore, Ridley Scott confirmed this before the release of Prometheus.

I don't think the suit necessarily has to be any stronger than skin and muscle. To me, it looks organic (I imagine a texture and rigidity similar to octopus sushi). If that's the case, a chestburster shouldn't have any more difficulty chewing through it than it would one of our rib cages.

@Tathel The Prometheus is like a PS3: It had 3D imaging, Auto-surgery capsule, and all these bells and whistles. Years and years in the future the Nostromo is like an Atari: You had to use keyboards "A keyboard, how quaint" The reason I came up for this is because it was Weylands personal ship and it had the most advanced tech money could buy at the time, maybe even prototype stuff. The Nostromo was just an outdated piece of crap tub boat that still managed to function.

Isn't it ironic that Ridley actually did go back to the original Giger designs/concepts for this film (as many fans wanted) and yet when he did so he got bashed for it: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/535/engineersuit.jpg/ Sure the original xeno lifecycle mural is not completely in the film (just the portion you see in LostHive's avatar) but Ridley can always go back and say that he [i]was[/i] sticking to canon because as you can see from link that is clearly a suit in both images. I agree it doesn't alleviate the disappointment that the SJ turned out to be "human" in Prometheus, but this nonetheless gives Scott a lot of wiggle room to explain it all away. Speculated on in this forum (and hinted at in the pic), there may be a third race in play here and that can make for a very interesting story for the sequel(s). If we take what Cry Havoc said: "The Space Jockey in Alien isn't an Engineer in a biosuit. It's what the Engineers based their biotech on. Just guessing, of course." Then Scott could cleverly salvage the original SJ concept by simply making that pilot another alien race altogether. I mean, the Derelict is ancient, right? What if the Engineers found it, and incorporated it's technologies- including the bioweapon? Or what if we are dealing with a multi-race society? At the top of the totem pole we have these big-banana-brained, 20 foot tall creatures who have an engineering class of humanoid workers. Just speculating of course, with the intent of how can can satisfy the true fans in the sequel while retaining the newer elements that Prometheus brought into play. Thoughts?

We have yet to get through two more films if Ridleys cryptic comments at the Leicester Square premier in London for Prometheus was to be believed. He said you need to two more films before you get to Alien when he was asked directly whether or not Prometheus was indeed a prequel or not to Alien. He gave an answer, cryptic in its nature yet dramatically revealing in some ways to if you are to take that comment at its face value. I hope there is something in it. I also hope that during this develepmental intrim between these alleged two more films and that of alien more connecting the dots will have happend, in particular, I would be bold to maintain somehow that the Derilict Space Jockey in some ways is seperate and therefore removed from being directly connected as a Humanoid, human looking creature. I would like to see some grand reveal in the same vein as Darth Vader confirming to Luke Skywalker that he was Luke's father and perhaps these beings are seperate yet still related in some way due to their technology for some reason. I'm not presuming that the Derilict Space Jockey was going to reveal 'himself' as the Engineer's father! No, but I would like to see the Prometheus/Alien universe be scattered with many other alien lifeforms only its not all benign but a cross-section of sinister beings in existence, some that have yet to encounter the other in the developing mythology of both the franchises.

@Cry Havoc I agree with you, the Space Jockey is something else, something in that ballpark and it may be an advancement by the Engineers...being able to leave the confines of the chair and the ship itself. The design of the Engineers ships in both Alien and Prometheus are in marked contrast to the saucer in the seeding sequence in Prometheus, that has intrigued me as well.

The saucer could either be a ceremonial Air Force One type configuration, and a royal class of ship/craft. It could be a far older model and their technology of space faring transportation vehilces as advanced in leaps and bounds. The third is both that saucer shape configuration of ship and that of the Juggernaught-Derilict space crafts co-exist and still do to this day in the timeline of the galaxy and of their race we just need to find where they are or may be hidden as we have already uncovered where two Juggernaughts and possibly three more may be on LV 223. We just need to find where the grand Saucer may have been hidden if it still even exists and was not destroyed for what ever reason during traveling through space and we only have the Juggernaughts left over but there may yet be more saucer shaped craft scattered throughout the galaxy on other worlds, even this one, we just need to know where to look to find them. It's possible that they can travel near faster than light speeds and they get to where they want to go in half or a quater of the time then it would otherwise take by conventionally chugging through the depths of space to get where they want to go. Not much reconfiguration needs to be done to them depending upon how many times they are used and subjected to the rigors of inter-stellar space travelling and carring experimental cargo's in the process. One other possibility is that they havegradually perfected the curved oval-like shape from and entire saucer shape gradually, over time, into a slekker two pronged configuration.