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james3313
MemberOvomorphJun-29-2012 9:09 PMThe ships dating 2000 years old states that the engineers planned earth's demise around that time. That would be circa 98 AD, the Roman empire.
The engineers saw the roman empire and understood that these "creatures" (earthlings) are imperial and becoming more tech savvy and could one day pose a direct threat to their dominance.
Think about this; when the engineer was awoken, why did he not immediately kill the humans upon seeing them? Instead he stood there for a second and even proceeded to initiate contact with the earthlings.
If David did in fact ask him how to live forever, this ticked the engineer off, and reaffirmed his suspicion that earthlings are imperial and expansionist oriented (future competition).
lets put ourselves in the engineers shoes....
We earthlings create an ant like creatures, on lets say the moon. At first, the spread, no problem...them they become violent. They start to expand, organize, and create technology (primitive at first).
Their expansion is not the problem as to if they expanded with showing good deeds there would be no problem.
The problem with our ant theory, is that they are violent (towards each other and other life forms) using technology not to enlighten themselves but for power dominance purposes.
As a result, we decided to "abort" the "ants" we've created
In Prometheus, we're the ants.
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amon ra
MemberOvomorphJun-29-2012 9:51 PMWell since the Mala'kak are biologically immortal (immortal but they can still get killed, and yes there is a such a thing as biologically immortal, one best example is the jellyfish even though though the engineers aren't a jellyfish, but it's one good example) highly advanced, and godlike to them humans are an error, imperfect and arrogant and stubborn, so maybe they they were disgusted by the mortality of humans. But this just me, others may have better theories. :-p

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphJun-30-2012 7:15 AMI don't fully understand how this suggestion is supposed to work. How would the Roman Empire represent any kind of danger to an interstellar race?
How would Romans possibly be, "tech savvy", enough to represent, or suggest, any kind of threat to a race that manipulates DNA and when would Romans ever have looked likely to really be any kind of potential threat in the future?
Furthermore, even if considered on the basis that the nature of Rome [i]was[/i] some kind of a signifier of potential human ability in the future, you would then be speaking almost as if the history and pre-occupations of humans on Earth started with Rome - when the fact is that humans were technological, aggressively Imperialist and expansionist for a long, [i]long[/i] time before that.
How would the [i]Romans[/i] be a threat - but [i]not[/i] the dynasties of Zhou? Or Xia?
Why would the [i]Romans[/i] be a threat, but Ancient Egypt, ignored?
Being able to produce gigantic pyramids we couldn't even reproduce today would be less of a technological threat than the Romans? Their ability to strategically deploy various swords and stabbing tools in vast, ranked number and build straight roads being of such fundamental and devastating significance - to a race that manipulates DNA for kicks?
If the Romans were some kind of threat that required Engineers to squeal and run to their flight suits, I don't understand why the Engineers wouldn't have had even [i]more[/i] of a reason to be sent into a state of tearful, genocidal, goo-raiding, panic at the thought of some, "future competition", on several other occasions - but hundreds, thousands, of years, before the Empire of Rome.

davuda
MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:33 PMJust joined this thread after reading some of the opinions posted.
Its not the Roman Empire that stopped the engineers. It was Jesus Christ....This is what I hated the most about this movie. It panders to Christians, which sucks because I'm an atheist.
Anyways, my contempt doesn't go too far, after all this is a SCI-FI. Actually it should be called a REL-FI (religious fiction). I just think its cheesy to make it ~2000 ago that the engineers wanted to destroy us as opposed to any other time in history. I think this is the biggest mistake the movie makers make here as the whole story is still based on an earthly fictional story that is still believed to be true by the Christians of this world today.
I fear that the sequels will get eerily close to the second coming of Christ and the realization of the messiah.
~2000 years ago there was a great shift in human consciousness geared towards compassion, as most Christians 'would like to believe', causing a monumental shift in the universe that foils the plans of the military type engineers, preventing their directive to destroy humanity. Sort of like a quantum beacon that rippled through the universe screaming 'Humans have reached their sentience activation level'. Unfortunately, this beacon will most likely be labeled God sending his son down to die for our sins.
In conclusion I'm not that concerned with the biblical parallels, as making a science fiction movie based on scripture more than does its fair share of insulting the Christian faith.
What I regret is the lack of imagination on the part of the writer. Of course I could be proven completely wrong when the sequel comes out. I hope that some quantum physics could be used as the framework of the plot as opposed Mythology.

shambs
MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 8:36 PM[img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/2010-Monolith.gif[/img]
In "2010 Odyssey two", a sequel to 2001, the monoliths are the will of superior alien entities who decide to terraform Europe to manage the evolution of the Europeans. But for that they destroyed the alien forms from Jupiter.
This is Destruction and terraforming for the greater good, because the Europeanos are more likely to evolve that the creatures from Jupiter. Some times I think that maybe this is the reason of why the Engineers want to destroy us; or in the words of David "Sometimes, In Oder To Create, You Must First Destroy".
[img]http://i1178.photobucket.com/albums/x368/bipolarestancia/Tsien_cont.jpg[/img]

Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-22-2012 11:19 PM"..that the ships were made by the same "evil company"..."
@davuda
The more the sequel gives more attention to the scientific details..the more valid the other storylines will make sense of what really going on in the Engineers' Universe..
I don't object to the usie of religious or even mythological references as they give us mere mortals something that we can grasp onto,,as this story unravels..
As far as we know,,David and Shaw represent the last two connections to Earth's scientic and human community.
Obviously the Nostromo.shows the Engineers did not succeed in the destruction of the huamn race,, I just hope this is a result of science trumping the religious card.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
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