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MemberOvomorphJul-01-2012 11:21 AMI mean why was the engineer in the cryo pod sleeping when all hell it seems had broken loose in the complex and killed all the others? I think the first thing you would want to do if that happened would, in the words of Lambert, get the hell out of here.
Unless of course he had something to do with the situation getting out of control.
And if you really wanted to destroy the human race why not do it right away instead of take a really long nap? What was he waiting for before he was awoken?
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synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 10:31 AM[u]Gabous[/u]: Nice post.
[u]Forever[/u]: Thanks for the new post and the kind words.
Regarding David, you wrote: “…he could only know the Engineers intentions if he communicated with him.”
Last night before I went to bed I had a thought about the film that is driving me nuts. I’m going to try to get it out in a clear and concise fashion. It’s related to something that [u]Hadley’s[/u] wrote about in this thread:
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/8308]http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/8818&page=2[/url]
(Note: I’ll be upfront and say that I’ll likely mangle some of the wording of bits of “Prometheus” dialog that I’m about to quote/reference. I’ve done some browsing in order to try and find video clips and/or transcripts of the scenes that I’m discussing, so perhaps I won’t f*ck this up too badly).
Near the end of the film when David alerts Elizabeth to the imminent arrival of the Engineer at the “life raft” he says the following words to her:
“Elizabeth? Are you there?”
“He’s coming for you.”
At this point in the film we are well aware that David has a directive, a desire and the ability to re-package/circumnavigate both fact and standard human morality via the manipulation of the spoken word (e.g. David to Charlie: “How far would you go to get what you came all this way for, your answers? What would you be willing to do?”).
In the above quoted words that David spoke to Elizabeth he does not say why the Engineer is traveling from the crashed Juggernaut to the “life boat”. If [u]Hadley’s[/u] is correct and David did speak to the Engineer a second time then it is entirely possible that David imparted to the Engineer the fact that Elizabeth had been indirectly infected by the Black Goo (B.G.). That means that hypothetically the Engineer could be looking for Elizabeth in order to either save her from Cuddles or kill her because she represents a female host for the B.G. The latter notion touches upon various thoughts and observations that people have put forth about how the B.G. interacts with its hosts/those it infects.
We know that David infected Charlie with the B.G. after putting Charlie through a maze of warped Android logic that he had no idea he was entering. Thus, the phrase “He’s coming for you” can be interpreted as being factual while it is simultaneously also a partial truth because it is but a single fact that is part of a larger truth that is being intentionally obscured by David. His words to Elizabeth about the Engineer lack both context and intent. David is giving a partial truth to a woman who is physically and emotionally traumatized and who has come to believe, rightly or wrongly, that the Engineers intended to wipe out human life on Earth. If David was trying to play Elizabeth against the Engineer then all that David had to do was to give Elizabeth a simple fact and she would of course react to that information via her own fears and survival instincts even if the truth was that the Engineer did not intend to to kill her.
I have now seen the film 4 times and I increasingly think that lines such as “We were so wrong” and “He’s coming for you” are representative of a profound act of misdirection on the part of Scott and the script writers (note to the Lindelof haters: for the love of G_d, please do not take my last comment as a reason to start a new war over how Lindelof is worse than Satan). I just cannot help feel that this film is just one part (one half?) of a larger project that Scott undertook when he began working on “Prometheus”.
Christ, I hope that I made some sense in this post.

JackTrigger
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 1:17 PMsynthetic, good post, fun read. I definitely see truth in your analysis.
And looking at the picture on the previous page, of engineer holding Shaw by her neck... just look at that bio-suit he's wearing, or fused with. That thing is aesthetically similar to the xenomorph build. What's up with that?

Forever War
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 1:53 PMJack
It's exactly what you said it is..a suit, his outer skin is literally engineered as a suit that interfaces with the juggernaut's pilot chair....and who knows what else maybe.

synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 2:13 PM[u]Jack[/u]: Thanks. In regards to your remark about the suit, [u]Forever[/u] beat me to the punch.
The film seems to show that that there are at least 2 different "breeds" of Engineers, those whose skin seems to be designed in the manner of a multi-purpose "activity suit" and those who do not have that "suit" and instead just have "regular" skin. Although the "suit" seems to be part of the "skin" of the Engineers who are wearing the "suits", we have no idea if there is any way for the "suit" to be removed or deactivated.

Forever War
MemberOvomorphJul-03-2012 2:35 PMI would hazard a guess and say that suit doesn't come off...it IS them, at least that particular model or variation of Engineer...that's his role, that's my guess. The same goes for the Waterfall model, that's his role as well...jeez these guys do a lot of dying and getting killed...I'd be more inclined to find some safe mortality and back off that Godhood thing.

synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-08-2012 3:38 PM[u]Forever[/u]: The sacrificial Engineer and the ship that seemingly deposited him on the planet where he drinks the Black Goo both display distinct visual differences in comparison with the hyper-sleep Engineer and the Juggernaut upon which he is found by David. At this point there is no way of knowing whether or not these visual differences represent (a) the fact that there are simply various groups of Engineers who in their culture fill different roles (e.g. religious or military) or (b) the fact that there are different factions of Engineers who have different/opposing agendas or world views. While I enjoy all of this theorizing I will be glad when the day arrives that there is more clarity about what it is that we have seen unfold in "Prometheus".
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