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5 Simple Changes That Would Make ‘Prometheus’ Better (For Fans Of ‘Alien’)

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I did not write this! I am sharing it! I happen to agree with everything written in it but I still LOVED Prometheus and thought it was wildly creative and highly original as well as the nicest looking film I have ever seen. It WAS written by a man named Vic Holtreman who owns and runs the up and coming movie news site ScreenRant.com. He has been employed as a door to door salesman, construction worker, car salesman, waiter, mechanical drafter, mechanical designer, system administrator and SEO specialist. He has always been a huge Sci-Fi fan, starting with watching "The Twilight Zone" and "Outer Limits" when he was still too young for kindergarten, graduating to "Star Trek" reruns in the 70’s and of course fully initiated by the original "Star Wars." He's also a big comic book fan (still buys them) and lover of superheros, action movies and the occasional horror flick. I guess this synopsis was designed to make you laugh and realize than when it comes to film we're all just happy to be here talking about them. [b]5 Simple Changes That Would Make ‘Prometheus’ Better (For Fans Of ‘Alien’)[/b] [url=http://screenrant.com/prometheus-changes-alien-vic-178488/?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_23800]OriginalStory[/url] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter1.jpg[/img] #1-There has been a lot of debate regarding the connection between Prometheus and Alien. Some people think it's enough that Ridley Scott's latest film takes place in the universe established by his original (and fantastic) film way back in 1979, while others feel that Prometheus should have been a more proper prequel that gives answers to some of the unanswered questions from the original film (read our review). [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter3.jpg[/img] The purpose of this article is not to debate the merits (or faults) of Prometheus, or to suggest that answers about The Engineers be answered - rather it is to present five very small changes that could have been made to the movie (and would not change the storyline at all) - that would have made it dovetail perfectly with the original film. Needless to say, there will be plenty of spoilers for not only Prometheus, but Alien as well. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter2.jpg[/img] [b]#1-Change LV-223 to LV-426[/b] In the original film, the crew of the mining ship Nostromo was awakened by the computer (called "Mother") when they passed within range of a planet with a moon designated LV-426. It was on this moon that the crew discovered the crashed alien (not "Alien") ship. This ship is where they found a petrified version of what is called an "Engineer" in Prometheus (and up until now, "the space jockey" in Alien) - a gigantic, semi-humanoid alien in a circular room seated in a large, central command chair. It was in a large chamber within this ship that hundreds of Xenomorph "eggs" were found. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1prometheusalien2.jpg[/img] [b]#2-Make the Engineer's ship that crashes the same ship that appears in 'Alien.'[/b] Following the previous point, at the end of Prometheus the Engineers' massive C-shaped starship is damaged by the Prometheus via a kamikaze attack. The alien ship crashes back down to the surface of LV-223 and falls over on its side, ending up in apparently the same position as the similar ship in the original film - yet this is not the same ship. It would make for a more satisfying connection for fans of the original film if this were in fact the same ship that was found 30 years later by the crew of the Nostromo on LV-426. As this latest film stands, another alien ship must have also crashed, albeit on LV-426. Why not just make this ship the one found in the original film? [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter5.jpg[/img] [b]#3-Have the infected Engineer make it back to the starmap room.[/b] At the end of Prometheus, the only surviving Engineer is attacked by a gigantic Xenomorph in squid-like form. After a mighty battle, the Engineer is beaten, and infected by, the facehugger-like creature. Shortly thereafter we see a variation of the familiar Alien from the original films emerge from the Engineer's chest. That's fine, but it's a missed opportunity for connection. Had the previous two items been applied to this latest film - the Engineer could have been shown waking from being unconscious and walking back to the starmap room to attempt to finish what he started earlier, even with a damaged ship. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter4.jpg[/img] [b]#4-Have the chest-bursting Alien born from the Engineer in the command seat.[/b] Continuing the previous point, the Engineer, now in the same seat on the same ship from the original film - could have lowered his helmet, strapped in with the ribcage-looking gear to prepare to launch the ship again - and the Xenomorph could burst from his chest at that moment, leaving the Engineer strapped into the seat, helmet on - just exactly as he would be found 30 years later by the crew of the Nostromo. [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1hunter6.jpg[/img] [b]#5-Show a final scene of the Xenomorph entering the large room where the hundreds of eggs were discovered in 'Alien.'[/b] Finally, the last scene aboard the ship (or the last scene of the entire film) could have shown the freshly-born Xenomorph (presumably, a Queen) entering the vast chamber we saw in Alien where the character played by John Hurt came across the hundreds of eggs, saw one open and was attacked by the facehugger. Again, this would have been another satisfying connection to the original film for fans without really changing anything in the existing Prometheus plot. On a personal note what struck me about this article was that these were all things I had inside me and was aware of but never had the presence of mind to articulate the way this man did, because these things all BUGGED me, and still do, but like I said I STILL...never the less...LOVED this Film and I still feel it is an easy 9.3 out of 10 ... as is !!! That said, once again these things always bothered me and I just couldn't articulate them properly until I read that this guy did it for me today.
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Damon Lindelof was brought aboard to re-write Jon Spaihts work. Big mistake. Linelof tore apart Spaihts work and made it so open that it no longer could support almost any question in the original. Lindelof has stated that he wanted Prometheus to not simply end where Kane would encounter the Facehugger eggs. Ridley Scott stated that he wanted this film to go in a different direction from the other films in the franchise- and any sequel would go even further away. Prometheus would have been better if there was a direct connection to Alien, but Londelof went overboard trying to make it "stand on its own". Prometheus would have been a splendid work had it answered the few questions from Alien. And it would not be so criticized if it had not asked so many of it's own questions. It is a great movie all by itself. But it is a train wreck if it is thought to have anything at all to do with Alien...
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Interesting, but I have a quibble and I think it answers part of the why of a different planet......the author of this article hinges everything on [i]Prometheus[/i] dovetailing with [i]Alien[/i] via LV-426. He fails to offer just how that works logically with no evidence of Prometheus wreckage in [i]Alien[/i]. Short of the Prometheus' total desintegration to the point of there being absolutely nothing humanly recognizable, which would be impossible, there is nothing in [i]Alien[/i] to suggest any external influence to the derelict's presence. He presumes that you can make that connection without answering that issue and I don't see how you can.
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I politely dissagree that he "hinges everything on Prometheus dovetailing with Alien via LV-426". For several reasons one important one would be that he did straight out make it clear they were just suggestions and not any kind of "argument" for should haves. Just that these desires were expressed by many fans of the original film. Despite your problem with "Prometheus Wreckage" which I am not really seeing at all how this effects what he is suggesting, He is saying these things would have made the film connect with Alien directly and I think there is no denying this.
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Oh I agree Spartacus, I just felt as though that aspect presents the problems I suggested.
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Those five changes could be just one: Directly connect Prometheus to Alien, making it a prequel. That would be cool but I honestly perfer what really happened in Prometheus, it's much more imaginative. The only thing I would really change would have been a more clear lifecycle. At the end, when you see the Deacon bursting out of the engineer chest, you have the feeling of everything being just an accident...
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids? They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
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If The Prometheus ship veered off over the horizon after the collision, this would have explained lack of recognizable wreckage. It might also explain why the Juggernaught wasn't completely destroyed (or way more damaged) by the same collision. That is-- If any of the "Five Simple Changes" were employed to begin with.
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what's the exact thing about the wreckage bugging you Craig my man? I am all ears. maybe you got something there.
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I don't mind it not being a direct prequel infact I like the film the way it is and most likely we shall see more answers in PARADISE and the screenwritter I hope will not be Lindelost but Chris Carter, creator of X-files! By the way @Spartacus what is your avatar?
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There could be a ton of different things about the movie that would make it 100 times better. And that seems to be the coolest thing in the movie: while not that great it has a lot of space for improvement.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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are we re doing the movie???
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@Synthrimonger94 From a Nightmare {Maybe, or maybe he's/she's/it's real...?...} had by the character played by Jake Gyllenahaal named "Donnie" in the film "Donnie Darko" !
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Synthrimonger94: Agreed in all levels there.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
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Simply put.....if they did all that, then there wouldn't be any possibilities of a direct sequel or sequels to Prometheus. Of course Ridley could go back and make more movies that would happen BEFORE the events of Prometheus...But maybe he didn't want to do that?
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I never associated Prometheus with Alien, I didn't want to see any hardcore links to Alien tbh. I went into the movie with any expectations. What I would have liked from Prometheus was a bit more detail in some scenes and a longer running time, apart from that I liked the movie. Also, there never was any talk about sequels, not until the movie came out so people understood Prometheus was going to answer everything.

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yep .....would have been good But what can we do
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I am sure that Jon Spaihts design the script that way, as a direct prequel. But Ridley wanted to eliminate the obvious connections and now is when Lindeloft does its thing XD
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But totally away from the expectations of the hardcore fans is my vision of Prometheus as a spin-off, in fact why not? We have a new open door to new stories, new worlds and possibly new monsters. Ok, maybe is a story more epic and less than Horror but it is certainly an expansion to the Alien universe. On the other hand I want to mention that some of the concept art designs are better than that finally we saw in the movie. There was a bad choice in some settings and designs. But I continue thinking that the giant head room is beautiful.
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I certainly think and agree that Ridley "Held Back" !
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Thanks Spart....what I'm getting at is that making the planet in [i]Prometheus[/i] LV-426 requires that the storytellers, writers and director, to view every frame of the exterior scene in [i]Alien[/i] as a Bible of the results of what happened in the events of [i]Prometheus[/i]. It's a kind of storytelling archeology of sorts. One watches that sequence in [i]Alien[/i] and, based on the visual evidence, reconstructs the how and why of the derelict being there by considering, listing and comparing every possible, logical reason and using that to write a logical series of events to bring the audience to that place in [i]Alien[/i] as we know it...and all of that must be done credibly. Now, back to the wreckage....given what we've seen from the collision in [i]Prometheus[/i], there would be a considerable amount of debris within a reasonable range of the derelict in [i]Alien[/i] that would have have been found by the Nostromo's boarding party somewhere in that walk to the derelict. In finding it, surely, some of it would have had the technological fingerprint of human kind and that was no where to be found in [i]Alien[/i], which procludes that as a possibility for being the same planetoid in both films. I say all that with the understanding that it is only true if the kamikazi collision is written into [i]Prometheus[/i]. In the abscence of that collison, it could easily be the same planetoid if written properly and with attention to the fact that no evidence of human contact can be left within that derelict in the process of telling the story in [i]Prometheus[/i].
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@Spartacus thanks! @David 1 thanks man I can always count on you!

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