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Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 5:58 AMThis just in on twitter. Gutted.
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MVMNT
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:17 AMWho did/didn't notice it? I won't lie, it's one thing I actually didn't

Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:19 AMI noticed it. If errors like that slip in what does it say about the movie? I think it's a big issue. And I LOVED the film.

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:37 AMI knew someone else would bring this up.
It's one of the things that I noticed on my 1st viewing too............ And isn't really explainable...............
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RickK
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:43 AMShame an obvious bungle like that slipped thru so many fingers on it's way to the screen.

Custodian
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 6:47 AMSpaihts said, "I didn't write it."
He didn't say, "Lindelof didn't write it, either."
:)
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Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:06 AM"...Shame an obvious bungle like that slipped thru so many fingers on it's way to the screen..."
It made it through the edit because RS wanted that way..no matter who wrote/improvised the line..
Perhaps as a diversion..but it doesn't seem to advance the story...
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Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:37 AMBenji Taylor has gone back to Damon Lindelof so hopefully we will have more info soon to PUT THIS TO BED!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 7:43 AMFunny how everyone can get over Blade Runner's hundreds of blunders and actually come to love them.
Who cares if he said 36 instead of 24? Even the most sophisticated computers can have a glitch or get a virus that causes them to make mistakes. We have no idea what makes David tick or what could cause him to say something a certain way. Get over it.
If you're looking this hard-even though it wasn't hard to spot-for things wrong with a film then you probably hate it and just want to tear it down any which way you can. If not and you actually like the film then you shouldn't give a shit about a mistake like this. Especially since we technically don't even know it was a mistake. If it wasn't in the script then it says even less about Lindelof's ability to write a cohesive story to lead to a sequel than you think.
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zzplural
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:06 AMIf Lindelhof made a scripting error, he rather luckily came up with something that [i]does[/i] make sense. I'll decorate an earlier comment I made...
When you ask an android how long you've been travelling in hyperspace, is there one answer or two?
Answer: there are always at least two.
First answer: How long the ship has been travelling Earth time. That's a couple of years or so.
Second answer: How much your body has aged in the freezerinos. That's about 36 hours or so in this case.
Possible third answer: How long has the ship been travelling subjective time (less than two years, due to the effects of relativity).
I listened carefully to this scene. Vickers definitely interrupted David in mid-flow. If this interruption had not happened, he could well have been about to say "stasis time" or something like that.
If I had asked him this question, I would expect to get either 2 years or 36 hours. Happier with both, actually.
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David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:14 AMEngineering:
1 - the movie in question is Prometheus, not Blade Runner
2 - I care if the script says 36h or 24h. It's a factual error
3 - Now you're rationalizing the whole deal. Computers glitch? yes. Humans glitch? yes. Should a Script Writer make mistakes? No.
4 - I don't hate the film neither want to tear it down
5 - It IS a mistake.
6 - Lindelof rewrote the script, Sir Ridley gave it a go, both failed. And no Lindelof is not a great writer, sorry about that.
zzplural:
Though you make a very good point, She could also have noticed that he said 36h as a mistake... a script mistake. I did, so did almost everybody else.
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Space Screamer
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:32 AMWow… This is a real bummer. :(
It really does undermine the credibility of the script and the writers. I've been trying to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this is pretty damning.
Did anyone not catch this on the day of shooting and say. "Hey wait! That doesn't make sense. Can we do another take where you say it like this…" How could Ridley have not noticed? It makes me think that he is either a tyrant of a director and people are afraid to question him on the set, or he was just more focused on the way the shot looked than what was coming out the actors mouths.

allinamberclad
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:33 AM@David 1
At last; some actual Reason, without woolly equivocations.

David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:34 AMSpace Screamer:
ahah, funny you said that, but Sir Ridley actually is a tyrant of sorts. And somewhat obnoxious to deal with, or so they say.
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David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:45 AMallinamberclad:
you know, I'm a huge Pink Floyd fan, and your avatar makes me lol everytime.
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Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:47 AMDavid 1 for president!
I care. I care that a dud like that can get past people.
It's actually unbelievably bad if it happened.

synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 8:47 AMOh. My. Lord.
Spaihts' produced the initial script for the film, not the final script, and thus in his tweet he used the correct word when he replied to the "36 hours" question. Spaihts said "I presume...", meaning that since he was not sure about the correct answer to the question he had to make a guess at why the line made its way to the big screen.
Folks, the line came from Michael Fassbender's mouth in a movie during which he gave a transcendent and laser sharp performance and which, whether or not one likes the film, Scott paid great attention to the smallest details. It's beyond my comprehension why anyone would put stock in the notion that no one involved in the production, including and especially Scott, Theron and Fassbender, would not question the presence of "36 hours" in the script/film.

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 9:18 AM@synthetic_69...Nice to see someone feels the same way.
@David1...So simply because YOU feel that BR is far better than Prometheus that makes the multitude of mistakes in BR okay? That's funny imo.
Mistakes are mistakes and like zzplural said there's a perfectly good explaination as to why he said 36 instead of 24. Funny that when an plausable explianation is given you just shoot it down and would rather believe that it just HAS to be a writing error. The explaination given by zzplural is just as plausable as it being a mistake by Lindelof.
I'm not saying it's not a mistake. I'm not saying it is a mistake. I'm not saying that Prometheus is on par with Blade Runner. I'm saying that I believe it's kind of silly to say multitudes of errors in one film are ok yet one thing that some THINK may have been a writing error in another film is not ok.
That said, I would like to apologize as I did make some rather ridiculous generalizations in my first post.
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Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 9:28 AMCould be either or at the mo.
Spaihts has been diplomatic.
We'll know soon.

David 1
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 9:40 AMEnginnering:
@David1...So simply because YOU feel that BR is far better than Prometheus that makes the multitude of mistakes in BR okay? That's funny imo.
So, where did you get the Idea that I even compare one to the other?
I'm not even talking about Blade Runner at all. YOU are.
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synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 9:41 AM[u]Engineering[/u]: Yeah, I feel you on this subject.
[u]Vickers[/u]: I have to think that Spaihts and Lindelof are both getting a good chuckle out the "36 hours" controversy.

Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 10:11 AMRemember guys, keep it civil.
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Vickers 8
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 10:40 AMSynthetic, indeed they maybe! Butit's driving me nuts! It's the diff bewteen this being a good and bad movie as far as I am concerned! SERIOUSLY!

Space Screamer
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 10:43 AM@synthetic_69 - haha!
Yeah, maybe this was an intentional "mistake" on the part of the writers. Keep the boards buzzing about "36 hours" to distract people from hating on the rest of the script!

synthetic_69
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 10:48 AM[u]Vickers[/u]: I say this with a smile in my heart: I think that you need to take a long vacation where there's no access to the internet.
[u]Space[/u]: Even if Scott, Fassbender, Theron, Spaihts and Lindelof all did a viral video in which they publicly addressed the "36 hours" controversy the haters would still not believe them and still find plenty of other things about the film to hate on.

Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:11 AMHas anyone even asked themselves what a 24 hour interval is? I'm sure everyone knows this but I'll go ahead and point out that it's the time it takes for the earth to rotate on it's axis. How, may I ask, is this relative in any way in space? They're not on earth so why would the time it takes earth to do a fulkl rotation on it's axis even matter.
@David1...When I stated that everyone lets the mistakes in BR pass and in some cases actually comes to enjoy them yet things of the same nature in Prometheus get such ridicule you said "The movie in question is Prometheus not Blade Runner." When I read this I took it as you saying that something along the lines of "Prometheus is not even close to as good as Blade Runner" or something of that nature. Misunderstanding is all.
And, in case you didn't notice I did apologize for the generalization in my first post. Even called it "ludicrous" as I know that not all people that want to insist it's a mistake fall into the category of hating the film. So, I apologized for what first offended you and now I apologize for misunderstanding the pertinent part of your response to my post.
The fact remains that people do let the mistakes in many films slide. Why is this mistake-which isn't a mistake at all imo as a 24 hour interval has no relevance in space-such a big deal?
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MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:13 AMWe see Weyland give his holo-speech from Mars colony, and we know David was probably stationed with him previous to the mission. Could Davids time setting be set to Mars time? The mission might not have launched from Earth. Dunno, just a thought.
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genjitsu17
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:24 AMMars apparently has a solar day of 24 hours, 37 min. My bad. Still, could have launched from an extra solar colony....
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Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:27 AM@genjitsu17...And a very good thought which I don't know the answer to. But yes, the axis rotation time of the departure planet coould be the answer.
Is there anything in the film that confirms that the Prometheus departed from earth. Even if it did there could still be other reasons why he didn't use the 24 hour description.
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Engineering
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 11:34 AM@genjitsu17...I replied with my last post before I read your 2nd post. You said that Mars has a "solar day" of 24 hours and 37 min. Does this mean that Mars does a full rotation on it's axis in that time or is that just how long the "days" are?
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