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Plot holes- why we are so picky?

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Vickers 8

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 4:48 AM
Why is the average cinema goer so much more bloody picky nowadays?
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Alien King

MemberOvomorphJul-24-2012 11:53 PM
Picky? Pointing out Plot Holes is not being PICKY. If your plot fails to make sense (and Prometheus' sure as hell didn't) then your movie is BAD sir!

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 4:56 AM
Because we want to be told a good story, and a lot of us here were expecting something dark, sinister and scary, also there was a dearth of answers. We didn't start telling a story 30 plus years ago, Ridley Scott and co. did. We expected him to do better, in a nutshell. And then he hired Lindelof.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:12 AM
We expected dark, epicness........we got light, Startrekyness! We are not picky, our expectations were well founded because of Ridley's past mastery *waitin to be fried by flamethrower* :-D

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:17 AM
......apart from the prologue, that was epic, that was Ridley......the rest of the film felt different, like another director....

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:18 AM
I have to say I agree there Lone, it really did feel like that.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:18 AM
having said all that I have seen it 4 times....keep hoping I'm gonna get it!! LOL

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:22 AM
So have I, and I'm more confused than ever actually.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:24 AM
Yes this film and these types of films get special attention because its sci fi set in the 'real world' as such and is serious! Its also made by probably the best sci fi maker ever so the expectations are high. Take men in black 3 for instance - its supposed to be a bit of fun and is a comedy after all - I saw it and actually enjoyed it more than prometheus unfortunately just because "it does what it says in the tin" as the saying goes - it achieves what it set out to do. Prometheus did achieve part of what it set out to do but seemed to mess up quiet badly in parts. A film like prometheus is also much harder to make of course...anyway hopefully its not over yet! And yes me too the prologue was one of the really goods parts for me too.

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:28 AM
yes Crabfart.....I'm hoping there's a soon to be released P2 which was filmed back to back & will blow our minds! Call me crazy, but I think it's remotely possible????

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:36 AM
Yes small chance but I think a TV series is more likely from viral vids...hats off to them if they covered up a part 2 that would be awesome of course!

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:36 AM
I just checked my local cinema listings......... Prometheus haz gone!! No more viewings for me, need to wait for the DVD/Blueray to dissect.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:36 AM
If you're crazy then so am I Lone ;-)
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:43 AM
HEHEHE I'm not 'lone then! :-D

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:47 AM
I still dream Ridley is Sci-fi God & in dreams anything's possible!!!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 5:50 AM
I've been a Jedi, a Guyver, Link and a stormtrooper in dreams before.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 5:55 AM
.....I've been Jonsey, Ripley & the wife of Chewy!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

David 1

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 6:27 AM
I agree with Gun and Cypher. Plus, as cinephiles we want to be well served. Good story, good aesthetics, good mental work... not Plotholes and oddities and inconsistencies and whatever the Industrie feels like spitting in our face.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]

Cypher

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 6:31 AM
Agreed David. We pay good money for this shit.
[url=http://www.robocopmovie.net/][img]http://i888.photobucket.com/albums/ac89/snorkelbottom/NewRoboBanner.jpg[/img][/url] "Is it dead this time?" "I dunno, poke it with this stick and see."

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 6:47 AM
Well you know what to do if nothing gets better...

Vickers 8

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 6:52 AM
BUT what I mean is.... Star Wars and BR and even Alien have massive plot holes. People gloss over them. Why not now?

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 6:54 AM
Erm please tell me the massive plot holes in BR and Alien?

Vickers 8

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:10 AM
BR- massive issue with number of replicants they say escaped!!! Plot hole massive!! Alien- acid marks on derelict implies a xeno must have been there i the ship already. But the eggs were below metal. how could a facehugger have got the jockey?

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:23 AM
As the real world becomes crazier,,escapement to movies create another world..perhaps a world more desireable.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:40 AM
BR- not watched it in a while so whats the problem? Theres 1 too many? I see on the internet they over dubbed the final cut so 2 got fried and its ok? Alien - We dont see lots of the ship and this part is ambiguous and unexplained the acid could of been from the chest burster or another alien the eggs below look like they were put there by the engineers as there is some kind of lazer mist covering them. The face hugger could of come from any direction or through a small hole outside etc. etc. . The SJ could of been infected and then walked back to the chair etc. etc.. Its not a plot hole because its not part of the main plot as such - you don't need to know exactly what happened to understand the story! And there are ways for it to make sense anyway!

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 7:40 AM
@Vickers 8.....the difference IMO is that Alien & Bladerunner were not ruined by any plot discrepancies! :-D

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 7:46 AM
I think the original script was intended for us picky buggers......then was 'dumbed down' for mass appeal, however it's debateable if even that worked! :-D

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianJul-20-2012 7:49 AM
I really like Prometheus, however I can't help feeling let down because I believe something truly wonderful may lie on the cutting room floor!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

zzplural

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:52 AM
@Vickers 8: [i]"Why is the average cinema goer so much more bloody picky nowadays?"[/i] Because it's the Facebook & Twitter Generation, where any tosser can shoot off his mouth! @Crabfart: (in relation to Blade Runner) [i]"you don't need to know exactly what happened to understand the story"[/i] Now that's really funny, because many of Prometheus' detractors don't like the bits that they don't understand!
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent

Indy John

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:55 AM
"..lie on the cutting room floor..." That cutting romm floor must be 10 feetr deep if it wants to answer the various thread on this I think another viewing(armed with info from various posts) is in order, Perhaps my mind would be more open to the informatin presented,,and make the storyline understandable at the end,, A satisfying movie experience is all I ask..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

Crabfart

MemberOvomorphJul-20-2012 7:56 AM
@zzplural Yes the difference is alien has one or 2 of these moments prometheus has a billion BIIIG DIFFERENCE!!!!
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