Am I the only one who just wants another Alien movie?

Bo Cherry
MemberOvomorphOctober 01, 20122772 Views38 RepliesI mean, the Engineer story is great and all, but I believe that if they connect the story to Alien directly, or just completely make another Alien movie, it would be more entertaining. I don't want Ridley Scott to waste the opportunity to go back to one of his best films and create an amazing backstory. I want another Alien movie, not any of this Engineer stuff.
Who's with me?
October 03, 2012
@BigDave
Even if there is a story. There... really isn't a story.
Because it's got no depth.
Weyland studying Aliens as weapons, DEEP.
We get to watch Aliens procreate through facehugging, and chestbursting. DEEP.
Prometheus is the bigger picture. And Prometheus is starting to do what all great movies do.
It is developing an extensive, detailed codex of information.
To the point where even the STORY can't be fully defined yet. I doubt, in the end, even once we've seen Paradise, we won't get the full picture.
We'll definately get more. But Not even the basic basics of what's going on in the Engineers.
Which is what brings me to the next thing. The Engineers.
They're the star players. They're the main centre of attention. And they should be. They're what's going to be explored in the series. And that is worth exploring.
And in time, over the course of the series' story unfolding, the Alien nut-huggers will be satisfied. Because i KNOW, that in the end even they will get their answers.
A pretty straight-forward answer to a straight-forward aspect of the movie.
The Xenomorphs.
Mmmmeh.
It'll be cool to finally acknowledge how they came to be. But that won't be people's main conern.
Prometheus needs to be standalone, with a TINY TAD of Alien on the side. Just the origins of the Xenomorphs.
October 03, 2012
alien started prometheus so enough with the "leave alien out"crap, it's not a Freaking alien movie nor a prequel to alien BUT it is still based in the ALIEN universe, i agree with you prenihility but not every scifi movie HAS to have a story to it !!!! look at the stupid zombie movies, there's little or no story to them, so please stop!!!, yes keep the engineers in the picture and maybe show there life style but enough of the alien ranting, prometheus would have never came out if alien hadn't!!
October 03, 2012
Well thats the thing you see, some want more Xeno and some dont...
Also we have to remember Fox holds the cards.... if they want to do a movie about the Deacon and Weyland Yutani and Ridley wanted to just go and follow the Engineers who are they what do they do now and in the past.
If Fox think the other is a money spinner, they could simply go and get in say Cameron or who ever and cater more for the Alien fans.
I think Ridley and Fox will do as much as they can to allow Ridley to explore his story about the Engineers while give subtle clues to the Xeno, i do think at some point Ridley will make a connection between.
Engineers - Xeno -Urns - LV 223 and what happened 2000 years ago, and maybe LV 426 even if its vague.
I am sure Ridley would want to keep Mysterys but he would rather answer those Mysterys once and for all rather than leave the door open for Fox to get someone else in and exploit/answer the Questions in a way that would make Ridley turn in his grave.
By not being a part of Aliens, he lost control of how the Xeno evolved in latter movies and Weyland etc... i am sure he would not want the same to be done with the Xeno Origins and Engineers.
Because if some think that Aliens onwards and AVPs destroyed Alien, if Ridley does not answer the purpose and creation of the Xeno etc, then when Ridley is gone someone could come along and make their own answers that could damage Alien and Prometheus furthermore.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
October 03, 2012
END OF THE DAY.....
The Alien Prequel was to be Paradise.....
As we have it now i think Prometheus is not the story Ridley is trying to tell.
The story he is trying to tell is Paradise......
Prometheus is merely the Prologue
Its a introduction to the Engineers and Elders.
While making a connection with Weyland Corp and its roots.
While making vague connection with the Xeno.
Paradise could go and explore the Engineers and their purpose and Agenda and what has become of them....
After this there is room to then explore the reasons behind LV 223 the Urns and Xeno, as part of a Prometheus 3 even though Prometheus 2 may give more subtle clues as Prometheus did.
Weather or not we will explore the Deacon and Weyland to Weyland Yutani is unknown, unless off course he could do two movies in one, running side by side but not connected.
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
October 03, 2012
Im sorry @ Onuris your new to this site so get used to the fact that not everyone has to agree with your opinon. I dont expect you to agree with my opinion about focusing on the Engineers rather then the Xenomorphs who are this point boring. They are killing machines. That is all that they are. I want to know who the Engineers are all about. There culture, there way of thinking and so on. The Xeno lovers on this site have no grasp about the original film. The original Xenomorph should be left alone. If left alone it becomes more powerful in the long run. It becomes a symbol of death that had its run and is now history. It is time to move on.
October 03, 2012
Ah, I should have post here before.
Simple Answer: NO
Enough Space Ants. After James Cameron that is what it became, the Attack of the Space Ants.
Enough.
Time to leave the dead Monster Movie behind and move to real science fiction. The first ALIEN was not a monster movie but a thriller with an alien organism attacking the crew, so we have horror elements but the science fiction was strong, as well as thriller and a good paced movie.
The sequels becamwe pure matinee monster movies adding nothing tot he original story and they saw it is long dead.
Innovate and leave the old xenos as what they are: bioweapons used by the Engineers, and they might be an even minor weapon in their arsenal.
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October 03, 2012
@Rubirosa
Yep. Me and Void constantly saying that, ahahaha.
Because it's TRUE!
And btw... DIRTY profile picture...
Best. Star Wars character. EVER!
October 03, 2012
here the thing. i agree with all of you, yes the engineers are to pick up the story know, all i was saying i want to know how the alien ended up on lv-426, i don't want killing and gore, although it would be nice to see the deacon's hunting behavior tho, and for my last post i was tired of hearing people call and say that the alien are just a bunch of killers or calling them stupid names ,or bad mouthing them, you don't read my comments and see me bad mouthing the engineers do i? cuz i wasn't trying to, when i saw Prometheus i was kinda disappointed at the end, like how the hell does the deacon get on lv-426 or even did it evolve before it got there,this discussion is so post to be about the alien not the engineers?? but as a fellow fan i have full respect for your opinions,just please stop calling them names -_____- if you actually watched the movies you'll know that there smarter then they actually are, i find the engineers interesting but one thing at a time.
October 03, 2012
I'm open to all possibilities, I just want a good screen writer...I don't care if there are Aliens or not...the script is one of the most important things to me.
October 03, 2012
@shambs thank you the script is what makes the movies and i' m hoping the link to lv-426 is in the next one
October 04, 2012
I see where you're coming from, but I think if you review
Aliens
Alien 3
AR
AVP
AVP2
There.s been a helluva lot done with the xeno.
@the end of AR you could have the Engineers FINALLY arriving @Earth to do their erase mission
I am sure they'd be as offended by the Ripley-xeno hybrid as they were by David.
October 04, 2012
wow, that's awesome @chthon one problem tho avp take place in 2004 way before kane and ripley ?? mmmm
October 04, 2012
Hey @Prenihility thank you for the comment. The character of Boba Fett is an icon in the eyes of Star Wars fans. The problem was that Mr. George Lucas was never very thrilled with the concept being a proffesional bounty hunter. That is why he never gave the character much screen time. In the end he killed the character off so non-shalant by having him fall into a pit. At least kill him off in a fire fight. But like I said before in a prior thread that I put up months ago. Imagine if Boba Fett could be handed over to Ridley Scott so that he can implant him in the Alien universe. That would be so much fun, and interesting.
October 04, 2012
One of the great things about Alien was the way it set the imagination on fire. The next three films are all recommendable in their own ways but they never captured that sense of otherness, and wonder. For one thing, the Xeno was influenced by the DNA of the host organism, its final form adapted to the environment it had to kill in. But it basically being a human story, it never really changed. We got the queen, and thats cool, and it crossed with a dog...and that was...ok... but it's a big universe. You know there's more.
One of the reasons Prometheus taking place over Christmas was oddly resonant was because it WAS Christmas, in the sense of finally getting some new stuff. And great stuff, a whole drippy razor sharp stocking full, wrapped in throbbing, glossy paper. But the Deacon had to be there, too, and it was SO WEIRD, and so great to see a different Xeno. The other ones didn't go away, you know. And they're a byproduct of this new Catalyst, the Black Goo. Great! Spill the Goo, man!
Prometheus was not the lazy option. They went to the trouble to give us an exciting, insane new world, with endless possibilities, and I think with nothing but respect for the original and its ideas. And it worked, everybody is talking well into the night.
October 05, 2012
thank you major noob, thank you every body just wants the ENGINEERS!! when it's was the alien that started it all!!. but like you said major noob prometheus opened a new world so i don't expect to see a bunch of aliens or engineers but maybe something different.