Noah, The Prometheus sin. SPOILERS

Hey Batchpool. Havnt seen Noah yet, but your synopsis has entrigued me....

I'll get back.

Ridley Scott didn't direct Noah, that was Darren Aronofsky. I do agree however that there are paralells, it's funny when many complained about this unanswered question when David spelt it out to us, "Sometimes to create, one must first destroy." and seeing what the black goo does I think the engineers motivations were pretty damn obvious. Man is a bridge towards the perfect organism.  

    It's pretty obvious that the only one who knows what he's talking about is David. Everyone else is running around saying weapons of mass destruction. But David seems to think something else. The main give away is the line "Sometimes to create, first you must destroy". It suggest that there is another purpose to for the black goo, humans and zenos. Not simply to just 'take us out'.

    I think the main reason for the engineers to create us was for another purpose. Going by the opening scenes, we see life being formed. We generally think that it is benign and most of us don't think it is for sinister reason. I think we are used as Zeno media, to create the perfect weapon.

My Theory: 

What might be similiar about Prometheus and Noah is the god-like/angelic group known as the watchers. The difference in thelse stories is that in the Prometheus story line, the watchers might have been the ones to stay in heaven/paradise and the other angels might have been anti-human. (the watchers in the Prometheus movie would be the engineers). I believe that there was a civil war on Paradise. One group wanted to destroy humanity, and the other wanted to protect. I strongly feel that the good engineers because of these facts:

1. The engineers know exactly where Earth is and could have attacked at any time. ( note: it appears from the Prometheus comic that the Engineers are still alive.)

2. They did leave cave drawings to one of their planets. (Note: having humans come to their facility and springing a "trap" is way to complicated. The planet was probably a colony that was taken over and turned into a bio weapons facility. This explains the ships filled with urns. 

3. In the elder engineer scene, it seems that the elders are the race's leaders, and they want humanity to live. 

( One last note, since Prometheus is based on Greek mythology, the story might be a parallel to Gia and Cronus. Cronus kept on eating Gia's children because he was afraid of being dethroned "a king has his reign, and then he dies, it is inevitable," and thus Gia hid her "SON" from Cronus. This son might be humanity. The only question is was Cronus and Gia the two engineer factions, or the deacon and something greater than any being seen in this sci-fi universe?)

4. I forgot to mention the UFO engineer ship from the beginning of Prometheus seen defeating the bomber ship from Alien in Aliens: Colonial Marines. 

@TheFirstChild-

The watchers that Enoch spoke about are also mentioned in earlier Sumerian myths, Shumer literally means Land of The Watchers aka Engineers, Anunnaki, and Nefilim.

@ meshuggah, apologies, I stand corrected and rightly so. I think I have been reading too many articles which mention Noah and Exodus in the same breath.

@ Something Real, Hope you enjoy it, intriguing it definitely is.

Whilst the main focus of Prometheus is fire, Noah looks at water as a purifier rather than a destroyer. I think this is highly significant at the beginning of Prometheus.

I’d like to point out that David adds the Goo to alcohol which some would term firewater. Certainly something to think about.

@Batch;

I haven't seen Noah yet and had no intention in seeing it, but it sounds interesting from the description you gave and now i want to see it.

@ Necronom4

I very nearly did’nt bother with Noah myself. It is only because of someone I know who liked Prometheus and  they had been following Noah a lot closer than I had that I would have easily overlooked it. Happy to say that I thought what the hell, lets give it a go. It was certainly not what I was expecting, but worth the watch. I would’nt recommend taking someone on a romantic date to see this. I was pleasantly surprised though.

Cheers Necro.

@batchpool Was an easy mistake to make given that Ridley is making a biblical epic as well, both directors have a similar eye for detail. I think the black goo needs water as a solvent, something to do with hydrogen, etc, I hope it gets broken down and analysed in the sequel. We'll get to learn what David deduced from the start.

Thanks for your post Batch!

I am also very intrigued now...I honestly had no intention of seeing NOAH, but I'll definitely be a bum-on-seat for it now! :D

PS I absolutely love Darren Aronofsky's The Fountain....another film which polarised it's audience!

Just thinking out loud. Another connection is water.... Water breeds life, without it its doubtful.

I'm and Atheist, (I like to call myself an Evilutionist/Universalist.)

Anyhow the Noah story, in my book, effected the known world, not the whole world. There is now scientific evidence that there was a major flood event in the general middle eastern region thousands of years ago. This flood effected those lands mentioned in the Bible, which made up, at the time the Known World. There is simply not enough water on Earth or in our atmosphere to cover the planet in water. If there was it would be permanant.

Also I would imagine that we have majorly pissed off God many times since Noaha's days....

I think water is a huge part of things. Without it life might not have crawled back out of the ocean after the Engineer sacrificed himself. Water is definitely a giver of life, and Ridley's mentioned that water was important. Also, he's talked about the consquences of what happens if bio-weapons get in the water supply.

We can definitely find parallels between Noah's story and this movie, but I think each movie looks at creation/the creator in very different ways.

In cross-comparative mythology (which Weyland's mother studied) the floods were sent by "gods" to wipe out all the giants and monsters, or other classes, that were once on the Earth.

This is something that many myths have in common. There's a sumerian version of the flood tale, that predates the flood as told in the bible. Zeus and the Greek gods killed the first 3 rounds of humanity (as well as the Titans), some of them by flooding.

According to the myths, Zeus flooded the entire Caucasus mountain region to wipe out the earlier humans, the Atlanteans, Poseidon's creations that washed ashore, and some of the monsters/hybrids. One early round of humanity was wiped out in the battle between the titans and olympians for fighting alongside the Titans.

The Atlanteans disappear from the myths altogether, and they may share a similar fate, ending up sinking into the ocean. It's unclear if they sunk themselves, or if they were too close with the Titans and the Olympians did it (most versions say they sunk themselves). Some of the tales about these earlier humans, the Atlanteans, were mysterious even to the Greeks..Atlantean humans were the first round of humanity created by Poseidon; this is long before they became mermaids/fish-men hybrids...Prometheus created us later, as the fourth round of humanity...After the Atlanteans died, after the battle of the Titanomachy, after previous life had already been wiped out and dissolved/returned to the ocean...

The reason the Engineers want to destroy us may be because they can and they're our older brothers, in a way... They precede us and contain traces of all life on Earth, they are us, and they're not the gods we're looking for, their culture forced them to restart their genetics on Earth... The Engineers are "mortal after all" and someone else created them. "If they are us, then who created them?" Shaw asks. So, she's already in search of something above them.  The Engineers aren't the end of the line. The mythical Titan class who these beings conquered is... These ones look like Greek statues, but they're only men...They're not as alien as we thought. We have a frame of reference for their language, culture, artwork, & how their brains/bodies operate... The sequel needs to be more Alien-y, because as we go forward we may find out that the Engineers are closer to man than we even imagined. "No man needs nothing".

The Engineers are us, they are man. Their genetics match us. Which is why it might logically follow that the Engineers needed water, or certain life support systems in their hypersleep chambers, or else they would die.  David says I trust their hypersleep chambers will impress, so they probably found a way to conserve energy while in the hibernation state, however the human body will normally dehydrate in three days. Maybe Engineers can go for longer, but they need some...And since there's not much in the desert, it couldn't be their home planet. If it had been a hot, dry desert, then dehydration would occur sooner. The Engineers might have needed air that was cleaner and thinner than Earth, are barrel chested & have bigger lungs like Himalayans, born at higher altitudes, and prefer higher altitiudes ("makes Everest look like its little brother"). They don't need to breathe the same ratio of oxygen as us, however they still need oxygen, and can survive where the air is thinner, can filter out the toxins more effectively.. The air was clean inside the temple. There's a reason they had water there, they needed water that wouldn't freeze at those temperatures...

Or maybe they are simply disapointed that modern humans have majorly fucked up the Earth.....