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[Spoilers] Major concerns for Covenant and following Alien movies

Inquisitor Fifield

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This topic is meant for those who couldnt help themselves and watched the leaked 10min footage of the sneak peek.

So spoilers ahead..

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Also I want to lay aside the arguments we used to have here shortly, so no sarcasm intented.

Overall I must say I am impressed by what we got to see in the 10minutes of footage - except for the (baby)neomorphs design and especially its behaviour. Way too animalistic and hyperactive. The movement has strong resemblance of a monkey or macaque thats attacking or fleeing (look it up and compare no joke lol)

Ofcourse thats not really a big deal and still makes a terrifying monster - but:

Do we really want the Alien and its relatives to be more animal than humanoid spawned demons? The Neomorphs and Proto/Xenomorph we got to see in the trailers and footage thus far all walked on their 4 legs, extremely fast and animalistic in motion.

I have the increasing concern, that this design choice of animal like Aliens had to be made for box office reasons.

The asian market, esply. the chinese, has some regulations for (horror)creatures and what not. I dont know the cultural or political reasons for this but its a fact. For example in video games such as mmorpgs the monsters like sceletons, undead, abominations, zombies and other humanoid baddies have to be altered (to look more like humans&animals and without visible bones/intestines etc.) to get censorship approval for the chinese market.

Also I cant imagine Ridley deciding to use this kind of pretty ordinarily behaviour for his creatures just by himself. The artworks and unused Prometheus artworks for neomorphs and deacon -like creatures all had them looking way more humanoid and undefinable than what the back- and throatbursters looked and moved like.

Remember the Alien back then used to lurk, stand, crouch, float down chains, just lay there in between some pipes, or just drop from the ceiling and erect almost in slow motion which all was way scarier and outlandish than running and jumping space monkeys..

But thats just a concern for a possible incoming disappointment, we have to wait for the movie luckily.

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I personally thought that the neomorph bursts where actually brutal but really good. I for myself like the more animalistic approach on the younger versions. But I hope that they will get more 2 leg like when they are fully grown up. I think that they will be on 4 legs but then try to mimic the humans and use an crouched movement on 2 legs.
Personally I also wish that they would show more footage of the mouthburster. And I hope that they will explain how they grow in the host so fast.
But I`m looking forward for the first screening the 9th May

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Inquisi Fifi – (Sorry, this name was created by Rick, and I like it very much…)

You are writing about the creatures in the neomorph birth scene:

’Way too animalistic and hyperactive. The movement has strong resemblance of a monkey or macaque thats attacking or fleeing…'

It would be a good idea to try to find the answer to this feature in the neomorph behaviour before jumping to descriptive conclusions, don’t you think? Why are they similar to ’running and jumping space monkeys’? Hmmm?

Perhaps we are going to enjoy an origin movie and these neomorphs are not created by humans, androids or engineers but nature itself. Perhaps the existence of these creatures is the product of millions of years. Perhaps these creatures are closer to animals. Perhaps these creatures, I mean the neomorphs, are wild animals…

’Do we really want the Alien and its relatives to be more animal than humanoid spawned demons? The Neomorphs and Proto/Xenomorph we got to see in the trailers and footage thus far all walked on their 4 legs, extremely fast and animalistic in motion.

What you state here is simply not true. The adult neomorph with its big hungry mouth is on two legs in the tv-spot ’Hide’, no doubt. Probably xenomorphs were not introduced in the materials, but the shower scene in the trailers reveals a Protomorph/Xenomorph (?) on two legs – its hand can be seen on the shower glass as well. And it uses its tail like its brother from 1979.

So I think it can be claimed that a kind of evolutionary span will be revealed and explained in Alien – Covenant and the future Alien movies. And it is expected and regarded as a clever thing.

’But thats just a concern for a possible incoming disappointment…

The disappointment in question was born in your mind and let’s hope it will stay there forever.

Also I want to lay aside the arguments we used to have here shortly, so no sarcasm intented.’

LOL, Armina, I don’t know who is behind this topic – the Sister, or the Master – but I’m sure this sentence was not created by the Sister… And now I’m not talking about the google translator (obviously false) cover story.

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Inquisitor Fifield
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we had a good thread before you started your usual trolling

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Ati
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Highlighting the fact that you misread and probably misrepresent several features of the movie in question is not trolling.

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Inquisitor Fifield
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we are not talking obsessive theories here - nothing to misread in motion pictures. Maybe go watch the 10min footage that are the topic, before raging like a manchild.

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OK guys, enough is enough - Ati I appreciate your passion.  Inq Fifi started a really good thread (my opinion of course) and requested putting the argument aside, so let's keep things above board and move forward.  With that said let's get the thread back on track.  

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I am fine with the animalistic behavior of the whatevermorphs. Hopefully we will see the moment they become biomech.

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Inquisitor Fifield A bit OT, but my problem was with the back burster scene and had nothing to do with the whatever morph.

I don't understand why Faris wouldn't let Oram's wife out- there was time. I think if the rationale was keeping things quarantined, then Faris already broke it by leaving the room after she was sprayed in the face by contaminated blood. Save those who can be saved and all that.

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"For example in video games such as mmorpgs the monsters like sceletons, undead, abominations, zombies and other humanoid baddies "

So the Chinese are like opposite to USA and UK lol, i remember a Game called Carmagedon where you drove around killing people in a Car, and some countries the Humans was replaced with Zombies lol

I would love to see a Chinese Walking Dead lol

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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As far as the Neomorphs, i think he is showing us they are more Animalistic indeed, the only alternative to making them more Human/Primate would be Baby Neomorphs that just Poop and Cry and need feeding by someone lol

I would say they are going for a Evolution Approach here, and the Engineers Created a killing Machine, that was not Perfect.

We will see Evolution to it where it becomes more intelligent and i do suspect they could explore in future that AI plays a role in how it becomes Bio-Mechanical and Less Animalistic 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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Ati
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'Ati I appreciate your passion.'

Rick, thank you.

And thank you for your sharp eyes, and for warning Inq Fifield to delete the phrases 'mentally challenged' and 'autist'X2 from his comments which were used to describe and insult me.

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Ati, I didn't get the chance to warn anyone of anything, I was just redirecting everyone's energies to something positive while I was at work.  I think Inq Fif did that himself out of respect for the forums.  If he edited that himself, respect.  Which is all each of us want.  I am checking with other staff to see who moderated his posts.

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I know Chris is busy... i could take him up on the over a number of years ago about being Moderator, as i am not as busy no more due to Health Issues so i have more time on my hands to edit stuff.

I think Fifield has learned, and its a case of moving on and put the past in the past;)

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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TBH, IF put out a good topic for discussion. Nice to see and participate in.

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@ Rick

Walter just sitting there like a chump going uh wtf just happened

His reaction reminded me of Ash's reaction.

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dk- So you're getting the SO937 Vibe from Waldo too?

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Rick- from the provided footage, yes. It seems he is just observing. He just stood there while others were in panic and had real shyt going on. I am more interested in what happens with David and Walter than anything else. The morphs- cool- bring it on. But I find more interest in the android department.

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Walter I think was just 'stuck' in processing, trying to figure out wth to do as no one was telling him what to do, and he'd likely never seen or heard of such things happening before as well, thus he'd be trying to understand what he was seeing, what was happening, and exploring potential courses of action in-line with Directives.

The spikes out of the guy's back (one of them) did get Oram's wife in the hand, as to why she tried comforting him with a hug, Humans will do irrational things from wild emotion in BAD situations, right? She was likely having a 'this isn't happening' moment in her brain.

Faris, yeah, pure panic and the self-preservation instinct-drive linked up to her monkey-brain-terror-state, so her actions of fleeing, locking the door and not opening it is fully valid given her adrenaline-driven mental state.

I liked the frenetic, aggressive primal-animalistic aspect of the baby Neos, and also the one in the lab seemed to possess some small sense of Curiosity about it's victim.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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Blackwinter-witch As you said with Oram's wife: that was an interesting two seconds or so. She was abandoned and locked in with a suffering partner and could do nothing else. It appeared she tried to give some sort of support to the casualty which is honourable. I felt bad for her and I thought Faris could have just let her out from the get go, but maybe Faris had no idea on basic casualty assessment- at least she gloved up lol!

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I think Faris just freaked out and that's why she locked her in. Also was it brought up or anyone notice in that 10 min. spoiler how fast the neomorph was growing?

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