Ridley says Covenant is 100 years before Alien...

I am going to run the risk of everyone wanting to skewer me alive and slowly dipped in boiling oil. The most horrible thought has occurred to me, but I will share at the risk of becoming the most unpopular member on this forum.

What if,            Ridley         is hinting         at the possibility       of……. ( here  it comes)

Completing the prequel movies, but at the end, introduces a new Nostromo and crew so that Alien can be remade, along with the franchise being redefined in its canon.

There, said it.

Just a thought, and I promise not to mention this again.

Batchpool- Then he keels over on premier night before anyone can interview him- what a troll and kick to our balls that would be!

"Completing the prequel movies, but at the end, introduces a new Nostromo and crew so that Alien can be remade, along with the franchise being redefined in its canon."

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"And then, when he was asked about the idea of digitally de-aging Weaver to bring her into them, the director added: "You could do that."

I was drawn to wondering if RS plans would have been to De-Canon Aliens on wards.

Removing Aliens as Canon and thus Alien 3 etc.... means any History post 2122 can be re-written and ant history Prior to 2122 would not be so much of a Conflict as it stands with Aliens and Alien 3 as Canon.

Ridley Scotts War of the Worlds Comment would be less contradicting if only ALIEN and the Prequels Existed in Ridley Scotts NEW Franchise Plans..

I was drawn to wondering if RS plans would have been to De-Canon Aliens on wards.

No way. Not at this point in time. I think an aggressive revisionist move like that would cause a back lash. Something like that might lead me to take the Quadrilogy, Prometheus, AC, and yes, AVP (lol) to tune out and live in those movies ignoring anything else except for Bloomkamp's movie if it happened. 

Erasing the other movies would be a huge arrogant dick move imo. If he really felt that strongly about it, he should have done it back then but he didn't. Others picked up the ball and carried on in their own fashion. Sorry, RS, it is too late now.

What would be the point of introducing a new Nostromo and crew so that Alien can be remade? 

I think that all the sequels to Alien  are already canon and that cannot be undone. Even if Ridley Scott does not like the idea of an alien queen he cannot remove that, he has to live with it. The damage is done.

What I would like to be explained is why Ridley Scott wanted to make David the creator of the xenomorph. Being created by a man made android, the xenomorph has become less alien. I really hope he will reconsider this idea and tell us that David only replicated a weapon designed by engineers or another alien civilization. 

Did anyone asked Ridley Scott if David is the creator of the xenomorph? 

With all of this buzz on the internet, why doesn't RS make more public statements via twitter or something to clear things up? 

To answer your question above, it is because there would be less room for debate Critters5.

Waterston told Ridley Scott to be quiet when they were doing the promotional tour for Alien: Covenant because he was letting out details in regards to where the franchise is headed but he can keep a lid on the important secrets (the fate of Daniels and Tennessee).

I can't agree with the age-related analysis above because the veil of grief Ridley Scott has to see through can only be understood by him after the loss of his brother. In the later part of the previous decade, I looked forward to Numb3rs on Friday nights because I thought it was amazing work from Scott Free Productions. What a time the brothers must have had together during the production of that show in California.

Who can imagine how someone else feels about and responds to a loss none of us understand? 

I'm not kicking sand on anyone's analysis above. It is just hard for me to believe Ridley Scott is operating under diminished capacity when he is offered so much from so many. After speaking with investors/production companies, you might think that with a declining film backlog but so many want him to direct films and are ready to fund it. 

Ingeniero Good point. Ridley seems in high demand. Below is a snip of what he is involved in. WTF is that "David" announcement? Yes, it is producer/executive producer, but still that is a pretty full plate.

I think RS is still functioning fine.... he will get things mixed up with all the Projects he is involved in, and i do think that 100 years is either a Typo (10 years) or as pointed out on here by someone, that RS could mean 100 years from now.

@DK

I was kind of worrying he may consider either De-canon Aliens or at least replace Alien 3,  the reasons seem to be the contradictions/Plot Holes and incontinuities the Prequels have raised.

We have the LV-223 Outposts, and where does this play in the Franchise unless the place is shown as destroyed certainly prior to ALIENS.

We had the more recent Derelict Events and Aesthetically differences, and how David Created the Xenomorph.

I wonder if RS is going to explore a good reason for the companies pursuit of the Xenomorph and maybe reveal AI as pulling the strings?

The War of the Worlds Comment how can this fit in with the Universe as far as Aliens Especially as it appears that in the 57 years since Alien, Mankind has no interaction or knowledge about Xenomorphs and Engineers, were indeed a cover up could work for Prometheus/Alien Covenant but how do they cover up a War of the Worlds Scenario.

And so when RS mentioned how you could Re-Introduce Ripley and De-Age her... where would this fit in?   She Died in Alien 3, if RS wishes to continue with a Alien 5 set after AR, this would be hundreds of years after Alien Covenant...

Surely RS would not Re-boot Alien?  And so i wondered if it may be possible he was thinking of doing a Alien Sequel the way he would have wanted and thus remove ALIENS from Canon.

I agree this would be a mistake as like it or not, i would bet every Fan who contributes $$$$$ to the Alien Franchise including the Prequels, i would bet a Large portion of them would be VERY UPSET if Aliens was now not Canon, i would even say in general ALIENS offers the largest portion to the Fanbase too...  i dont just mean as far as Fans who only like ALIENS but those who consider both Alien and Aliens as the main reasons for the Franchise.

I think the Franchise needs to not be messed with, but there is plenty of places set between Alien Covenant and Aliens where movies can explore related events.... such as LV-223, Planet 4, Origae-6 the Engineers...

And not have to mess with the Canon of Alien 3 and Alien R, and also we DONT need another Ripley movie.

A question?Where did Ridley Scott ever say he doesn't like the queen?It's thrown around here all the time,yet i can't find a single shred of proof he ever said that?I know a lot of those who feel Only Scott films matter feel that way.Ridley actually admires Aliens,he wanted to work on a movie with Cameron after all,so I don't see him having issues with the queen.

As I recall, RS didn't hate the queen- he said something to the effect that he would have gone the Space Jockey route instead.

That's what I've read as well.He was a bit disappointed that no one wanted to explore what the Space Jockey was which is what he has now done.

I dont recall RS saying he hated the Queen, i actually remember him saying on two occasions it made sense, and he liked how it looked.

Ridley Scott however is not a BIG fan of Aliens in General, he does not dislike it, its just not the route he would have taken,  he often refers to the Beast being cooked, and how it was more effective in Alien because we dont see it often.

He also refers to the other Alien movies as Shoot-em-ups.

So i think RS just felt that the Xenomorph was shown too much in Alien, and so once revealed too much it looses that Mystery about it.   I think to be fair Alien  3 did not show the Xenomorph much and it was far from a Shoot-em-up but i agree Alien Resurection was.

As for the AVP's Ridley Scott often refuses to speak about them, and he claims he has never seen and has no intention to seeing them.

i think when RS mentions the Beast was cooked with a Apple in its mouth and stuffing etc, he was referring to how it was handled after Alien 3, includes the AVP movies.

I have never seen RS ever say the Queen Concept was bad, ever... i think its just not what he had in mind, a lot of people do make a lot out of James Cameron and Ridley Scott as if they dont really like each others Projects but that is actually far from the Truth, as they had came close on TWO occasions to working together on a Project.

Cameron also had positive things to say about Prometheus and he has never said Alien Covenant was bad.

@BigDave

But Cameron did say he would have never made Covenant (which is not very complementary) and that Prometheus in the end did not make sense (I was just paraphrasing...).

And the 100 year stuff makes sense because of the context, as in less then 20 years you would have to establish mining operations in space and wear out the Nostromo as seen in A79, which is not very likely.

OK this is a longer answer

That could be like saying that it is many years before he original movie. Compare it to if you are waiting for something and it feels like you have waited a long time so then someone asks “how long have you been waiting?” you answer “100 years”, you simply says that it has been a long time. Maybe this is what he means here?

What I am saying is that we probably should not take it literally.

How about this?

“the date is seen on a monitor display just before the crew of the Nostromo is awoken from hypersleep.”

How are people able to see details like that? This is interesting to say the least and no I am not making fun of any person. I have watched the movie a lot of times but I have never seen it.

"Being created by a man made android, the xenomorph has become less alien."

This is exactly why I dislike that idea, keep some of it a mystery. I would rather have Jabba The Hutt creating them for some mysterious reason than David. LOL! Having David recreating something from the Engineers is totally fine.

Alien 1 to 3 work fine the way it is, in no way should they retcon anything of that. Sure Aliens is not the perfect movie but it works like a middle thing between Alien and Alien 3. Sure many people have problems with the prequels but imagine how many that would be mad at Scott if he did that to the sequels, that would be so stupid so I do not have words for it. By the way Alien 1 to 3 are a lot better than Prometheus and Covenant so he should stay away from that so no retconning and if that would happen I would be disappointed.

Don't make it to AI pulling the strings behind the wall at the company, that would be stupid.

IgnorantGuy: I do not know what Cameron said or not but I think that Cameron would have done it better (about Prometheus and Covenant) because they were lacking things although I prefer Prometheus compared to Covenant. Maybe he would have been better about how he was dealing with the characters.

@ Thoughts_Dreams

@ignorantGuy

I think what we have here is indeed Cameron was saying he felt that Prometheus was interesting and he did not say Alien Covenant was awful....    I feel his comments are that BOTH movies on their Merits may be ok but BOTH are not the kind of Movie he would have made.

So its kind of similar to how RS has not said he dislikes Aliens or the Queen, but they are NOT Directions Ridley Scott would have taken.

It seems Cameron would feel the movies should stay more in touch with ALIENS, Queens maybe Ripley, and it seems Blomkamp is in the same boat... and so Fanboys as per say.

I think RS had different plans, i think he had different ideas and that Aliens just basically reduced the Xenomorph to some Lesser kind of Organism that just has a Hive Mentality and kills stuff, i get the feeling Ridley Scott envisioned something more for the Xenomorph at that time.

The Xenomorph ended up being over exploited, over shown and not kept to the shadows, and a Queen ended up taking some of the disturbing Procreation that RS had planned.

So i feel RS felt the Xenomorph element had been worn out, maybe RS saw more potential for it that followed similar to O'Bannons ideas, but it evolved to a killing Bio-Logical Organism like a Invasive species of insects.

So Ridley Scott noticed that NO-ONE ever answered the Question about the Origins, and also the Space Jockey Race... which during Production of the Prequels, we was introduced to the whole Ancient Aliens kind of Plot which RS felt was interesting... The Xenomorph prior felt and seemed like a Bio-Weapon and RS i feel just saw that after the Damage done to the Beast, that actually its role is JUST a Bio-Weapon.

So the Space Jockey was more interesting...

I feel that Cameron sees the Xenomorph as more interesting and needing to get the LIME LIGHT, the Franchise was Xenomorphs and Ripley.  And i think Cameron while he may not dislike the Prequels i feel that he felt they had gone off track by not being about the  Xenomorph, apart from Alien Covenant and that then the whole ANDROID created it Plot was maybe what Cameron felt was not the way to go.

Ridley Scott seemed to feel the Space Jockey Race and History and connections to Creation was more interesting, and also the Back Ground regarding the Weyland Company, and so the Xenomorph and Ripley were not really the Main Focus and certainly something that had been done over and over.

So while i think they respected each others movies and never hated them, i think they both simply had COMPLETELY Different ways they would have handled them.

I personally dont see Ripley as relative to the broader themes, and i also see the Xenomorph as not being much about the broader themes but more important than Ripley.

i think we need to explore the Weyland Company Agenda, and how AI/Synthetics fit in the Arc of Creation, Rebellion and Power... and explore more so the Engineers.

BUT they need to bring something Alien back into it, and for this they need to take O'Bannons ideas and Merge them with HR Gigers.  I think Ridley Scott has LOST sight of where to take this... and i think Cameron would just give us a Aliens meets Avatar, its all about Ripley and Queens Fiasco so no thanks...

Yeah dk. What is "David"?

...it's not our android...see below.