Nostalgia is the death of creativity

I think maybe i have been a bit HARSH on the idea of a ALIENS Sequel...

I think Retrospectively... if we NEVER had a Aliens Sequel, so NO Alien 3, then the thought of having a Sequel to ALIENS many years latter that continues with Ripley, Hicks and Newt with some of the ideas from Blomkamps Concepts, would actually be not to bad, and appealing, certainly have the appeal and INTEREST from Aliens Fans.

My ONLY Concerns are we have seen Ripley in TWO more installments, that were kind of Flawed but also had their own Merits, we also had another Installment with the Queen (not inc AVP).  So potentially its a case of how many more times can we see the Queen and Ripley, i feel AVP movies had damaged the Xenomorph a bit too.

HOWEVER... my Main Concern would be the IGNORING Alien 3 and Resurrection from Canon... and more so its a case of IF they took this route and it made MONEY... its WHERE do they draw the Line?

Prequel Reboots, ALIEN Reboot?

Whatever JC may release, I will likely end up watching it. If it messes with the Quadrilogy, I will just re organize it all in my own mind. I just cannot imagine the audacity of shoe horning a movie in while giving the middle finger to half of the series. 

"Terminator seems to reset itself every 5 years to be honest"

To be honest it WORKS with that Franchise by Virtue of Time Travel which allows for a Ticket to Reboot Stuff and discount continuity...   Take Star Wars.... introduce Time Travel and you can Ret-Con the New Movies by Virtue of Princess Leigh or Solo getting Killed by a Time Traveling Sith to Return of the Jedi.

Time Travel allows for such reboots and to ignore in-continuity, but at the cost of allowing them a easy ticket to do so over and over, and there is only so much you can do before introduce something Fresh.. and while having Arnold's T-800 introduced for Nostalgia, its a case of too much could damage the Credibility of the Original... But Cameron wont care about that, and Production companies wont if it makes MONEY.

But i wont want to see Time Travel or even Endless Reboots for the Alien Franchise, but then Credibility is damaged due to AVP movies, and Alien Covenant anyway.

"What's a problem? Don't want, don't see. But there are people who want to see! And be better (and honestly) if people get the sequel what they want."

Personally i would say NO! leave it alone...

But then some Fans feel bad about the Prequels, and also Killing off of Hicks and Newt and Popcorn and Nostalgia would maybe make a interesting movie if DONE-RIGHT.

No Fan OWNS the Franchise, Cameron does-not, and the likeliness of Ridley Scott not being able to Finish his Prequels shows even the Original Director does-not OWN the Franchise.

But then its a case of DISNEY owns it and IF they decided to make a more Fanboy Movie, thats up to them... i guess you have to look at it from their point of view... if it looks likely to make more MONEY than the Prequels.. and Re-Introduce the Franchise to a New Generation... you cant really argue against that.

My concern is ONCE they take this Path (resurrect Hicks, Newt and Ripley) its where do they STOP?

Once CGI gets better so that you could Digitally Bring back say John Hurt and have him be almost indistinguishable from his appearance in the 70's (so say much better than Star Wars and Tarkin)  its another case of WHERE do they Stop?

The other Concern is what Damage/Credibility happens with the Prequels..   But i guess IF some fans chose to IGNORE them thats up to them, just as much as IF some fans want to Ignore Alien 3 or even Camerons/Blomkamps ALIEN 5

So while its not the route i would GO... i guess i have no say, and its IF it makes money, and more so IF it actually ends up being Good, then i guess we can look at it and enjoy it, yet still consider Alien 3.

Another Concern (this will ruffle some feathers) is Miss Weaver, she was the ONE who wanted her Character killed off in Alien 3 because she had enough.... But she soon wanted to be in Alien Resurrection $$$$$$$

Blomkamps Project never even had Ripley/Miss Weaver, until they talked on set of Chappie and she convinced him to introduce Ripley to the Story....  If they IMPROVE CGI then Miss Weaver would be willing to go for another 5 movies lol.

I dont object to her continuation... if they went the sequel to Alien Resurrection Route...  thats just my Personal Opinion and in the schemes of Movie Making and Sequel that does not mean NOWT! unless Millions feel the same.

Even then..... its whatever Disney Feel would make $$$$$$

I will add hope that never came back HARSH... Leto ;)

I was actually agreeing with what you said... IF some fans want to see such a Reboot, why should those who oppose it have any problem...   same with those who dislike Alien 3, or the Prequels or Alien Resurrection..

As DK said.. and yourself said.. You dont have to Watch it, and just consider which movies you like for your own Personnel Canon..

I am not against a Blomkamp Idea a more Aliens movie, or Cameron... i think we could get a movie thats a Spiritual Successor that is within the Franchise... i just dont like or see the need to Resurrect Dead Cast...

I can understand if its a Android, i can understand with Ripley 8 (even though flawed a bit)...  And so i would not object to a Ripley 8 movie because it would continue the Franchise and allow for some Interesting things to be explored.

Surely the company would LOVE to get their hands on a Ripley 8 for the Potential of Re-Engineering her.

@Thoughts_Dreams

Good Points.... i will add though that the Prequels could be FIXED... I would rather FIX whats wrong than to Throw the Scrapbook out and Star Again.

But as discussed many times... the route of the Prequels leaves them in a Sticky Situation...

 "Does he only accept his own stuff?"

Thoughts_Dreams yes I think so lol.While I admire James Cameron as a filmmaker,I'm tired of his high and mighty attitude.Guess that's what happens when you make the top 2 most successful films of all time...

Amidst all this talk of James Cameron maybe returning to Alien, I'm reminded of The game Colonial Marines.For those less familiar with this travesty,It was an attempt to give Aliens "the sequel it always deserved".The difference was that it didn't delete Alien 3.Instead it attempted (very poorly I might add) to give fans answers as to where the egg on the Sulaco came from.Even Hicks was alive, faked his death apparently.If Cameron wanted to do something like this then maybe it could work.Though I don't think he'd ever tie into Alien 3 in any way unfortunately.

"Make a movie between Aliens and Alien 3 it's a terrible idea ever. Nobody like it, because all know the end."

I disagree with this,  but your comment is VALID to a degree much like it is with this comment "What's a problem? Don't want, don't see. But there are people who want to see! And be better (and honestly) if people get the sequel what they want."

It comes down to Personal Preference, some people like Cameron's Aliens, some Dont, Every Fan has a different take and NO Fan owns the Franchise, the Majority who like ALIENS and the similar Comics/Books have a RIGHT to like that style but they should not be considered the VOICE of the Franchise, and neither should be those WHO dislike ALIENS and the like.

Personally i think whats DONE is DONE, and there is NO point in trying to UNDO anything to PLEASE a % because you then DISPLEASE a % so it comes down to then FORCING which Sect of Fans is in the RIGHT!   When None should be.

Nobody would like a Movie Set between Alien and Aliens? thats quite Bold, i think we cant say that, some will like it, some wont, but  then the same comes with this. "But there are people who want to see! And be better"  and so YES some would like to see a Blomkamp Alien 5, but some would not.

Personally i think its a case of looking into the Broad Reasons for ALIENS Fans Love of that Movie and the similar Style shown in some Comics and Books, and IF this is ONLY a case of because it has Ripley, Newt and Hicks, then Unfortunately they were Killed Off...  I personally dont think making more movies to BRING THEM BACK would be a Good idea, as it could lead to Disney basically just Rebooting what they want with the Franchise and its a case of where does this STOP?

We need to instead look at the other Elements about ALIENS and the similar Action Based Comics, Books and Games that a certain portion of Fans like.  And introduce these into ANOTHER Movie.

The ALIEN Franchise should NOT be about RIPLEY! doing this really does LIMIT the Franchise... is the Potential of the Xenomorph only LIMITED to the Derelict, and does it always have to have Ripley come to the Rescue?

so you can have other ALIEN Movies that DONT have to be about Ripley at all....  for those who Want Ripley then we could the route of what happens after ALIEN Resurrection, and continue with 1-2 Ripley Movies from this path.

Some Fans would be Quite Happy with Ripley and Co based Movies that Bring Back or Re-use there Characters, this is something some of the NOVELS do, such as there was ONE if i remember (have not read it) where Ripley is involved in another Situation with the Xenomorph between ALIEN and ALIENS, but then gets back on the Narcissus shuttle, and would then have had to Forgotten about those Events by the Time of ALIENS.  I would NOT like if they did similar with the Movie Franchise....  just like the Aliens Colonial Marines where Hicks is Alive after the events of ALIENS.

These would be just Fan Pleasing Nostalgia that could Conflict and Damage the Franchise, such things should be kept to GAMES, COMICS and NOVELS that are considered Canon/Non-Canon to each Fans own Personal Choice.

IF such a Movie was made.... then as you had said LETO... it would be a case of THOSE who dont like the idea, DONT have to Watch or Consider it as a Canon... and can IGNORE the Movie/Sequels and Accept Alien 3, and those who would LOVE to see a Blomkamp Alien 5 can accept these as Canon and Ignore Alien 3.

And so those WHO would hate such a ROUTE that conflicts with Alien 3, kind of have a Right to dislike it, but it comes down to the Studio and WHAT they would like to do, and if Disney choose to do a Blomkamp Alien 5 that offers a ALTERNATIVE sequel to ALIENS, then we have no RIGHT to say this cant happen... those who dont like the idea can simply NOT go and watch or consider this route as Canon.

IF we do go this Route then it simply offers TWO alternative Paths after ALIENS which Fans can choose to accept which ever they want, Some Fans could be Happy to Watch Both sequels and view them on their OWN Merits... so we DONT know if a Blomkamp Alien 3 (which is  what it would be) would be just a Nostalgia Trip with NO real Good Story but just the same Old Action, Run and Shoot... it MAY actually be a Good Movie, we would not know until its been made.

Certainly from a $$$$ POV then it could be a Money Maker... if it is made and BOMBS then i think it could well be a Big Nail in the COFFIN of the Franchise as far as Disney would look at it.... but the same could be said with ANY movie they would attempt.

so what i am saying is IF they go for a Reboot of Alien 3, then thats down to Disney, those who dont like the idea, can IGNORE it, or maybe go and watch it and just see it as a Alternative and NOT true Canon.... those who dont like Alien  3 could go and see it as the True Sequel to Aliens.

I just hope IF they made it that the Plot is Good and it tries to offer something a bit different too, and its HOW they handle the AGE of the Actors... as it is going to take a lot of OVERSIGHT or Good CGI to set the Movie say 10 years or so after ALIENS.... 25-30 years latter would be more fitting.

I hope it does-not lead to them having Ripley appear in movies set between Alien and Aliens, or even doing a ALIEN reboot....  or a REBOOT of the Prequels.

So to continue with my previous Post....

The ALIEN Franchise does-not have to connect to Ripley!

They could have a Movie set between Alien and Aliens, they would have to be Careful how this could Conflict with Aliens, but if done right then it could indicate WHY the company abandoned the pursuit of the Xenomorph for so LONG!

There is another potential ALIEN Movie by exploring what else happened to the Process/Events that lead to ALIEN, these could cover Planet 4, LV-223 and Origae-6 (if the Prequels were NOT to give these places closure) and so such Movies could offer something ALIEN but also different.

A More Traditional ALIEN Movie would be to Cover between ALIEN 3 and Alien Resurrection,  after the USCSS Patna leaves Fiorina "Fury" 161 do they head home and simply ACCEPT the Xenomorph is NO-MORE until we arrive at the Plot for Alien Resurrection?

It appears the USCSS Patna had not arrived at LV-426 prior to Fiorina 161 and so maybe its possible that it would go to LV-426 to see if the Derelict is Salvageable.....

Or indeed the Company goes back at some point in FUTURE which seems to be the Plot for Blomkamps Alien 5 (set 20 years latter).

So we could go for another Mission to LV-426 between ALIENS and Alien Resurrection, or indeed go for Blomkamps Alien 5 but just DONT use Ripley, Hicks and Newt as this was indeed what Blomkamps Idea was before showing it to Miss Weaver who then talked about it with Blomkamps and then he Re-wrote his ideas to bring back Ripley, Newt and Hicks.

The Alien Franchise does-not have to be about Ripley, so we can have Movies set between 2115-2375 that are very ALIEN/ALIENS (Xenomorph) that dont have to be about Ripley.

If we want Ripley i think they should continue from ALIEN RESURRECTION as what happens to her NOW that she is NOT fully Human, what Conflict does she suffer with her Humanity and Alien Soul!

About Ripley she had her time, she did great in Alien 1, 2, and 3 but it went into crap with AR. The prequels are disappointing about at least they are not about Ripley. Try to make good characters and try new ones instead of bringing up the same old character again.

Maybe they could have some Ripley adventures in a novel or what ever but not in a movie. Sooner or later it will become old and will probably tarnish the legacy of Ripley. Let her be and do not make it into a parody. Even if someone somewhere say that “well we can still try to respect her as a character” I would say that it will be repetitive make something new.

I would not be against them rebooting the prequels because they are disappointing anyways but don’t reboot any of the original 3.

I dont think Rebooting anything would be ideal...

The Prequels should remain, you can in further movies CHANGE some of the things they opened up as the Prequels are Ambiguous, more so Prometheus.

We have only be shown a Few Things as FACT.... Dr Shaw is Dead... as a example (but there could be work around).

But we have not yet been shown the Moment the Eggs get on the Derelict, and so its not SET IN STONE.. that the Xenomorphs are Created by David, and the Engineers are the Space Jockey, not as in context to what we have been shown in the Movies.

Directors Comments and Intended Path prior to Changes, dont really 100% count as they are subject to Change... by that 4+ Years ago the Xenomorph was a Creation of the Engineers that was Thousands of Years Old.

So instead of Rebooting the Prequels they can just use other movies to Elevate and Change the Plot.

This is similar to what they did with the David Creates the Xenomorph Curve-ball, which in Hindsight must be a Mistake as its certainly something i feel only a SMALL % of Fans are pleased with..

This can be Subject to Change.

I do agree that while the Franchise can go the Xenomorph for a Few More Rounds, i think Ellen Ripley has had her DAY!   However if they are to bring her back i think they have to make it a sequel to Alien Resurrection.

But there is a Fanbase/Market that would want to see the Gang Back and have a Cameron's Aliens 2, 3 and 4 etc... I think Hard Core ALIENS Fans (means those who really like the Movie, but also could like the others).  I feel a Majority of them would NOT mind a Blomkamps Alien 5

And i think Disney may see such a route as the Less Risk, more chance of making Money...  Nostalgia SELLS!

If they go this route i guess we can either Boycot those Movies, or Watch them on their own Merits but still accept Alien 3 on-wards as your own Personal Canon.