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Time travel in AC2? No! Already in AC. Mad explanation.

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Kongzilla

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Somebody remember Lost in Space 1998? In this movie a family enters into the future through a time blob. And inside the blob they find another blob with much far future.

I think, AC can have same idea.

 

We have 2 time lines.

Note: I supporter of parallel dimensions (time lines) for time traveling. It's much logical theory.

First time line:

In the indefinite past. A true genomodified Engineer create/upgrade a life on the Earth. Engineers have come to Earth many times.

2093-94. Prometheus expedition on LV-223. Discover Engineers builds and meet with a true biomechanical Engineer. Show and David go to Paradise.

2094. Neutrino burst sent the Juggernaut with David and Show into the past.

David doesn't know about time travel and created a second time line.

David destroy the true "primitive" Engineers - they just started using genomods and choice of their people create a life and humans on Earth. Still don't have biomechanical parts and never come to Earth after humans creating (no rock-paiting with LV-223 coordinates).

He still think that he placed in 2094. But Engineers erased in this time line and builds on LV-223 too.

2104. In the first time line. Covenant go to Origae-6 but also gets into the past, in David's second time line.

"How we can miss Planet 4 when scanning?"

Obviously! Planet 4 is definitely dead planet in ~2104. Another rock in space. But not in the past!

After all David get the Covenant and go to Origae-6. Maybe he send message to WY, but WY and human civilization don't exist yet.

Second time line:

In the indefinite past. David arrives on Origae-6 and create his own world. Time runs, David waits. But no one arrives on Origae-6. David's civilization have a better progress (using alien-dna) and finally start fly to space. They have a strange sacrifice rituals with xenomorphs. because this need for many reasons.

They find the Earth with primitive humans and David finally knew about time travel. He decides to destroy humans at the Dawn of their civilization.

David very proud his latest achievement - the restored Engineers ship. Bio-Juggernaut. David himself has many biomods and become a biomechanical life form - inspired by the last Engineer from LV-223.

And he go to his secret places - Planet-4 for Show grave and he grab the leavings Black Goo. And after - LV-223 for Black Goo as easy path to destroy humans. But it's just a rock. Just for experiment David used last drop of Black Goo (from Planet-4) on alien eggs. But mutant facehugger attack David and Bio-Juggernaut crashed on LV-223 (crashed Engineers Juggernaut never exist in this time line).

David's race don't know about his destiny and they don't know about Planet-4 or LV-223. They stay on their planet and continue use the biomods. Aliens go down in history.

2122. Nostromo find the Bio-Juggernaut (we know as Derelict) on (in second time line) LV-426.

After 2122. Mankind find Origae-6 and alien civilization - we know them as... Arcturians!

 

Simply put - Prometheus and AC with Alien Quadrilogy is a different dimensions.

Prometheus have Engineers, Deacon/Deacon-like creatures, LV-223, and crashed Juggernaut, Planet-4 - who knows, in this time line Engineers never be destroyed... by David at least.

AC with Alien Quadrilogy have Space Jockey (David corpse), Xenomorphs, LV-426 (=LV-223), and crashed Derelict, Planet-4 - dead rock.

And as we know - the story of Alien ends in AR.

But Prometheus time line just starting to live and humans still can meet the Engineers and many unknown creatures.

 

What - you think?

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Lone said "what's the difference between Ripley being in cryosleep for 57 years set against travelling forward in time 57 years?"

I am not a fan of time travel for this franchise but you make a good point here and could agree as long as time travel could only be forward. 

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Guys, I just thought of something....

Planet 4 never showed up on any scans until after the Neutrino burst. Is that a clue or even proof that the burst caused the Covenant to travel to another point in time & space?

Ricks: It appears to be a main sequence star, a lot like our own, but old...very old.

Daniels: How did we miss this we scanned the entire sector?

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AHH Yes! It's possible!

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@Lone

Indeed that is a good question, HOW did they miss this System/Planet?

Back in early 2015 when i passed on information from the Source i had, i had mentioned that apparently the Engineers had Technology that could Tera-form Worlds and Affect the Climate and Weather and they hinted that they could use this Technology to HIDE Planets, well cause distortions that could mask a worlds Technology... so it was like Severe Storms could act as a Communication/Scanner Barrier.

So while such Technology helps to shape a World, it can also be used to Cloak it to a degree.

I think we kind of see Evidence of this with Planet 4.

In earlier drafts the World was Surrounded by a like Halo/Ring that was Technology that it was indicated would HIDE the Planet.

I think when it comes down to the Neutrino Burst that Damaged the Ship, the Neutrinos would NOT do this but the Shockwave from a Event that would Produce the Neutrinos would so some ATOMIC Event had occurred within so many Light Years from the Covenant..  The Birth or Destruction of a Star or some Massive Energy Release by a Star or something that would have similar Atomic Energy

Could such a Event had knocked the Covenant through a Tear in Space and Produced a Alternative Time-Line?

Maybe... but i am not so sure such a Event would have affected David/Shaw too because we can assume they had been on Planet 4 for 9-10 years prior.

But as FAR as placing the Covenant in a Future timeline.. maybe... But i think we still run into the Problem of how would this effect Planet 4 too... as it was 7 weeks away from the Covenant, so if the EVENT had thrown the Covenant into the Future, we have to ask would its Radius Reach Planet 4 and throw that into the Future too?

So at that Moment David had been on Planet 4 for 10 years, the Covenant had left Earth for about 1 Year... but this Event then THRONE both Planet 4 and the Covenant like 10, 20, 50, 100, 200 or so years into the Future

Maybe that could work!

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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@BigDave

It does appear that the Engineers had that capability when you consider what happened with the storm on LV-223, after the seal to/atmosphere of the ampule room was breached.

I was thinking more along the lines of the Covenant being thrown backwards in time, perhaps that could explain the more primitive nature of the Engineer population of Planet 4. Bit of an unsatisfactory stretch though!

Also David could have been lying or mistaken about how long he had been on the planet, he was pretty damaged before being patched up by Shaw & in need of decent maintenance.

The problem with that is how do you then work David & Shaw into the timeline, unless, by some convenient coincidence the same thing happened to their Juggernaut? Again, that is stretching things a bit too far to the point where the story gets messed up & not in a good way!

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Don't forget about the the lyrics to Country Roads- 

"Take me home to the place where I belong".

I don't think the song was there by accident. It seems to suggest something about origins.

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Good point dk! ;)

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Back in early 2015 when i passed on information from the Source i had, i had mentioned that apparently the Engineers had Technology that could Tera-form Worlds and Affect the Climate and Weather and they hinted that they could use this Technology to HIDE Planets, well cause distortions that could mask a worlds Technology... so it was like Severe Storms could act as a Communication/Scanner Barrier.

So while such Technology helps to shape a World, it can also be used to Cloak it to a degree.

I think we kind of see Evidence of this with Planet 4.

In earlier drafts the World was Surrounded by a like Halo/Ring that was Technology that it was indicated would HIDE the Planet.

 

I don't think that a Hide Technology is a good explanation. I mean - HOW the Covenant crew could detect and scan the Planet 4? Shouldn't the Cloak technology work better in close proximity to the Planet 4? There is no point. And in my next topic I explain this and tell why Time-Travel can be possible as part of the plot of prequels.

 

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"perhaps that could explain the more primitive nature of the Engineer population of Planet 4."

AND

"I don't think the song was there by accident. It seems to suggest something about origins."

There is a bit to read into that, when we also consider the Court Yard and throw some Concepts in... but i think it would be a LONG post that would be a bit off topic. We seem to be seeing a Reoccurring Theme of Creation, Sub-Creation and Hubris when your Creation is made more Superior/Perfect and what happens when they deem themselves superior and more worthy than their Creator. And it appears this Theme would continue with Alien Covenants sequel... well maybe that was the Plan.

@LETO

Totally agree... such Technology as far as Storms could make it hard to detect whats on the Surface, what Continents are there, how much Water maybe... certainly hide any signs of Life or Civilization.

But to HIDE a whole Planet is a Stretch!

The Problem arises by Virtue of having a Direct Prequel Plot, where you have to introduce Humans... and so having Planet 4 being closer to Home is the Convenience, and so then they had to come up with a Plot to WHY such a World as Fertile as our own (before Davids Bombardment) has simply never been detected...

Having a World Much Further becomes a Problem... because if the Set-Up is David Unleashes Hell on Paradise, Created his Proto-Xeno, then the Covenant Ship and Crew come in and will play a part in the Continuation of the Xenomorph... where we are looking at 2-3 Movies before we arrive to ALIEN.

Then with a 17 year Time-Frame... making the Engineers World closer to home was a Necessity/Convenience which meant they then have to come up with a Reason why the Engineers World was never detected.

The Plot Idea i had as far as where David and Shaw would go, would have NOT had to worry about such things because it was Thousands of Light Years away!  What about Humans?  Well then we ask is Earth the only Place where Humans had been seeded by the Engineers?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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