The Bioweapon on LV-223

I think trying to kind of get back to the OT

And try and see how the Prequels Connect really depends on how you take Alien Covenant or Interpret it.  Prometheus likewise but this Movie seemed to over NO Contradictions to the Possibility of the AGE of the Eggs on the Derelict... while not Concluding they was Ancient However.

Prior to Alien Covenant it was quite clear to see there was a Connection between LV-223 (Experiments and Black Goo)  and the Xenomorph (more so with Deleted Material and Concept Work).

What we could Conclude or Speculate to a Logical Conclusion was that the Xenomorph was something that either was the PRECURSOR to those Experiments/Black Goo on LV-223 or that they were the PRECURSOR to the Xenomorph.

It could have been a Mystery and we could then have TWO Logical Conclusions....  

*Xenomorph was Discovered by the Engineers, and this lead to the Experiments on them to Create the Horrors on LV-223

*The Xenomorph was a Eventual Result of the Experiments that was Conducted on LV-223, be that a Engineered/Designed Result or a Unintentional One.

And thats the WAY they should have left it...

I wont bring Alien Covenant much into this, as this debate had been covered a lot.. In a Nutshell it seems to Indicate that the Pathogen and Neomorphs were used to Create Various Experiments until David had achieved his Perfection.

Prior to Alien Covenant... then what David had done but these kinds of Experiments by Engineers could be the more Likely Origin of the Xenomorph going back prior to Alien Covenant.

Back to the OT...

Then indeed the Engineers could have used this Black Goo as a Bio-Weapon... back prior to Alien Covenant we could speculate did they Engineer Xenomorphs to be used as a Bio-Weapon too? or was they a Accidental Creation (maybe like Neomorphs).

The Company does have a Interest in using the Xenomorph also for its Bio-Weapons Department.

I think if we look more into the Black Goo and Experiments, than the Xenomorph....

I have said this prior, i DONT think they Needed the Black Goo, not as a Weapon... and Especially if we consider the Engineers are Genetic Gardeners of the Galaxy and Creation is their Main Purpose..

I feel dropping down the Sacrificial Goo or if its the SAME stuff but Programed Differently then using it as it was in the Sacrificial Scene makes more Sense as FAR as a RESET Switch Bio-Weapon.

Such a Weapon could Worse/Long Case just Reset a Planet back to Similar Point to what it was when the Engineers First Began their First Seeding via Sacrificial Scene...

so there is a more SINISTER Agenda going on LV-223 than merely having something they can USE to CLEAN A WORLD... and START AGAIN...

I suspect the Juggernauts from Inception were never Originally Intended to be used as a War Machine to bring to a World Evil Horrors like Neomorphs, Deacons and Xenomorphs..

I dont buy that LV-223 was a Place of Horrific Experiments as far back as 35'000 Years ago..

something CHANGED... something made those on LV-223 begin to Create Something Else.... something Horrific for Some Reason...

When i Consider TWO things....

1) Ridley Scott said the Engineers on Planet 4 are the Originals... and i look into the Paradise Lost/Fallen Angels Context of that and Consider Mankind/David.

2) I Consider your other Topic about Genetic Memory/Sin (Kanes Son) and i Consider the Topic i made about Engineers wanting to Transcend themselves (Verge of Godhead) and i look at Ripley 8

I think maybe we could Speculate at a Reason why those Engineers had Experimented on what they had on LV-223

Sorry if this is a bit Off Topic though.

If “our” Engineer is the last man standing, why does he decide to take a nap in the cryo-pod and lie there like Sleeping Beauty? He has succeeded in preventing a holocaust so why doesn’t he leave that horrible place and travel back to his homeworld (or somewhere else)?

Also, the juggernauts don't seem to have a "Mother" controlling the ship so they have to be woken manually? That's why our Engineer's been snoozing there for 2000 years?

I think that is a Good Point...

I think it depends on HOW we look at the Movie/Engineer maybe he decided or was Tasked to Wait just in case anyone Turns up?

If we go by the Theatrical Cut then the likely Answer is he was just Lucky to not be Infected, and he either Forgot to set his Wake-Up Alarm or it Failed... or he Choosed to Stay behind in case any comes back..

I find that last point unlikely, as if his ONLY intention was to Destroy us, then he surely would have Carried this out at some Other point... so i would say in this case when he went into Cryo-Sleep he had OVERSLEPT ;)

Indeed it does seem their Ships are more Manually Controlled but would have a Auto-Pilot of Sorts.

I suppose it's possible that the juggernaut landed on auto-pilot and that they never got out of the cryo-pods? They were attacked by something from the cargo hold before they landed and this spread to the other Engineers on LV-223? Or something from LV-223 attacked them before they had time to exit the cryo-pods?

I think there is a lot we can Speculate about... it really depends on what Evidence we use....  I think we have to remember that Ridley Scott should be the Biggest Source of Information, and also the Theatrical Cut..... which he claims is his Directors Cut..

By that i mean RS intended to portray the Engineers on LV-223 as Aggressive SOB's who had Created Evil Bacterial Drums of $"%£ has he puts it... 

So we also then have to Consider what David had said, which was these Engineers had intended to go to Earth, before things went to POT!

We know those Dead Engineers had been gone for 2000 Years give or take, we can assume from David and also what RS had said that they was in the Process of Preparing to Unleash the Black Goo on Earth (at very least) before things THEN WENT TO POT.

The Juggernaught Engineer Scene we then have to assume took place before the Outbreak...

The Scene seemed to Indicate the Engineers at this point were very CALM... there was NO signs of Panic or Danger. We see that TWO Engineers arrive to the LEFT of David, and then TWO more to the RIGHT...  the other Engineers appear to spend most their Time touching the Cryo-Pods, so they must be setting them Ready to be Occupied.

The ONE Engineer (Survivor) instead is in the Command Seat, and operates/activates the Orrery Map and he appears to be Calm, we do see another Engineer looking at the Orrery Map and Pointing at certain things in the Map.  It appears they TARGET Earth, but we ant rule out if the Ship has Multiple Destinations.  Unless that other Engineer is the ONE who at that point Selected the Destination?

We can assume the Last Engineer who was in the Control Chair was the LAST of the Engineers to enter Cryo-sleep, and it seems those Engineers are NOT aware they are Infected, or any signs of being in a Rush or Panic and so at this POINT there is NO OUTBREAK.

We can only ASSUME that Engineer would be the one to ACTIVATE the Pilot Chair to take off.. and have to ask WHY the Ship never took off?

Surely the Process would have been to Activate the Pilot Chair, Activate the Hanger Doors and then Pilot the Juggernaught into Space and then go into Cryo-Sleep until they arrive at their Targeted Worlds...

So there is a lot of Mystery that we can only Speculate on.

*The Ship could have came from some place else and then DOCKED on LV-223, but it would seem if so it was in the Hanger for a While and not just a Case of a Quick STOP OFF..

*We Cant rule out that if the Ship had docked on LV-223 for a Number of Hours or Days, that something had got on the Ship or Contaminated the Cargo Hold). But if we go for the above TWO points, then WHY would a Ship arrive with some Cargo Left, and then Top-Up the Cargo?

*So it would be more likely that the Ship either Arrived and Docked or was already Docked for Weeks/Months, while the Cargo was being Loaded to the Ship.  The Engineers then began to Enter the Ship and SET-UP the Mission, its Destination, the Cryo-Pods and then 3 of the Engineers had Entered the Cryo-Pods...

BEFORE THINGS WENT TO POT!

We can then only Speculate a Few Things...

1) During the Final Process of Launching the Mission, the Last Engineer detected something was WRONG... and he had Entered Cryo-Sleep...  But then WHY did he Survive, and IF he detected something was Wrong with the Cargo, then WHY was the SHIP not Quarantined so the Outbreak is Confined to that SHIP?

2) During the Final Process of Launching the Mission their was a OUTBREAK on LV-223 in the Outpost and the SHIPS where put on LOCK-DOWN.  But then we have to ask was the Last Engineer just LUCKY? and HOW would the Outbreak have infected the other Engineers if the OUTPOST was put on Lock Down?

So to me it looks like some kind of Sabotage has to be the Best Explanation Still.... the Extra Scenes may support this... but to Ignore them.... then maybe some Sabotage could have Happened prior to the Engineers making their way to the Ships....

Our Last Engineer either being in on the ACT... or he was just Lucky to Not have been Infected...

Looking at how CALM those Engineers were, and if we assume ONCE they had Set-Up the Cryo-Pods, then about Few Hours or Less after the Hologram Scene they surely should have DEPARTED on their Mission.

So then we have to look at HOW can Engineers be Infected but be Unaware and also something that would not be a INSTANT infection, well no Symptoms for a Few Hours.

The ONLY thing we have seen similar would be Holloways Infection.  Which to Infect a lot of Engineers in this way without their knowledge looks more like a Sabotage rather than a Accidental Outbreak.

Either way something on a Smaller Scale like Holloways Infection where a small Part of the Substance infects a Water or Air Supply could well be the likely Culprit.

Well, I suppose we could continue to speculate that the juggernauts' cargo holds were empty when they reached LV-223? It would seem that at least two went there to get the lethal supply - either eggs or pathogen. It seems unlikely that the urns transformed into eggs. They could have leaked and mutated some lifeform in the cargo hold but the urns would still be there (there are no urns when Kane enters the egg chamber).

It's possible that one juggernaut fetched the eggs from another pyramid and ended up as the Derelict and the pilot (Space Jockey) on LV-426. It's also possible, of course, that other juggernauts left LV-223 with the same purpose, either to Earth or some other worlds. We know that at least two failed their missions.

The real conundrum is the four Engineers lying in the cryo-pods, the pilot chair not raised and no pilot. They must have died (three of them) from the outbreak started on LV-223 and one was "lucky" to survive.

But it makes no sense that they are all lying there. Were all four of them waiting for take-off (auto-pilot)? You would suspect that one cryo-pod was empty (the pilot), similarly you could wonder what happened to the rest of crew on the Derelict. The "doors" were opened and there were no sign of facehuggers or xenomorphs.

Indeed there is a lot we can only Speculate about..

The Engineer Conundrum really is just that, IF they was Infected prior to the Hollogram Scene, they did-not seem to be aware of any Infection, be it Black Goo, Neomorph like let alone Face Hugged..

We can only Speculate if at a Later Point they was Infected and Aware and Panicked, as the Drafts seemed to Indicate and also a Shot that we did not see.

If we IGNORE such things and only go by what we saw Theatrically then its more of a Mystery.

Which is WHY i wonder was there some Sabotage/Spike of their Drink/Air Supply.

They seemed to be Chest Busted, and by something that would be LARGER than a Xenomorph but NOT as Large as the Deacon (well Human Fetus Evolved).   We can only Speculate really.

The Derelict and Juggernaught are different Internally, the earlier Jon Spaights Draft indicates the Cryo-Pods are Standing and are NOT located in the Pilot Chamber, so we can maybe Speculate the Derelict has a Similar Layout or that it has only the PILOT.

I think it could be LIKELY that the Props for the Engineers were made in Relation to Jon Spaights Story, and they decided to keep them or Finish them off for Lindeloffs Story which we have NO answers for... But with Spaights the indication was Face Hugger Infection which the Engineers were ALL infected and Attempted to go into Cryo-sleep to Prevent this.

To TRY and look at your first point in your last reply, well indeed it seems odd about something EVOLVING in the Cargo Hold.

There was NO Urns on the Derelict, and surely Urns cant Change?

In Alien Covenant we see the Urns seem to disintegrate into a Mass of Cloudy Particles so Nothing remained of the Casing.... was this part of the Activation? Or because they HIT a Force Field (thats for another debate). 

The Neomorph Spore Pods grew from something being infected with the Black Goo.

If a Cargo Hold had something inside that could be Evolved as the Spore Pods were, and if the Urns had Activated/Exploded in the Cargo Hold... then MAYBE... what we could have is something that Evolves inside the Cargo Hold.

If a Engineer Ship had a Water Leak and a Infected Water Supply or a Leak in a Empty Cargo Hold, but some Black Goo had got into that HOLD and this Hold had Mold... we could Speculate that something like a Neomorph Spore would be Possible?

A Infection in a Water Supply could explain the Outbreak... if Leaked Water would then produce some Algae/Moss or Fungi or Mold etc... then this could EVOLVE into Something.

That is maybe the Best Way i can try and think how such a thing could Happen!

But if we IGNORE what RS had said then indeed the most likely Connection or how it appeared would have been either.

1) They Created, Engineered, Evolved something on LV-223 and Transported it to a Ship and ONE of those Ships was the Derelict.

2) The Derelict was Transporting Eggs to be used to Create/Experiment with on LV-223.

One of those seemed to look Visually what the Connection should/could be.

The only other way RS comment would make sense would be IF....... Something had Evolved in ONE Cargo Hold, then it Infected the Pilot, and then it had made its way into a Empty Hold to Lay the Eggs....

The Problems come from NOT really bothering to give a indication to HOW the Derelict/Juggernaught are Connected. 

About the pictures you made of the pyramid, there seems to be a shaft going down into the headroom. Also, Fifields pups have circled along way up the pyramid. What's up there?

I guess a reasonable explanation for the Engineers lying in the cryo-pods, the pilot chair not raised and the hangar closed would be sabotage, as you suggest. They had intended to destroy life on Earth but were stopped. The Engineers we see running and the pile of Engineers we see outside the closed door saved humanity but not themselves?

I think thats the Beauty of Prometheus.. its ambiguity means we cant really come up with any Conclusive Answers... we could take what Ridley Scott says... but then its a EVOLVING Story and so what he said in 2012, 2013 would not be what the Plan was as of 2016.  What i mean by that is he had said after Prometheus the Derelict Event had happened within a Few Hundred Years of the Outbreak 2000 Years ago, and by Virtue of expanding that to suggest something Evolved in the Cargo Hold would imply the EGGS were not on the Derelict at the Time of the Outbreak but something Evolved to them some Few Hundred Years after....

But we can THROW that out of the Window if his Intention  was what we have in ALIEN Covenant... which Contradicts what he has said about the Event prior to 2015.

I think if we GO BACK to prior to AC then it seems the Derelict and LV-223 Events are Connected but maybe Separated by a Period of Time.

It is NOT so Impossible to consider a Cargo Hold of Urns becomes something ELSE.... if we look at Prometheus we see the Urns in the Big Head Room become affected and the Black Goo seems to LEAK from the TOP and in some Shots it appears a THICK WAXY like Substance has appeared on the TOP of the Urns that is ORGANIC.

When we look at the Urns that are NOT affected and the Urn that David had took to the Prometheus we see the Urns are Constructed of TWO Parts... like a Russian Doll

WHY did the Urns not Leak from the Seal/Area where the Urns are Opened from?  And so HOW did the Goo seem to Escape from the seemingly Solid Lid?

If the Material the Urns are made of can Dissolve in a way that the Goo Escapes from the LID... could under certain Circumstances the Entire Urn just Dissolve?  Is that what we see in the Bombardment Scene in Alien Covenant?

If that is the Case, and a Cargo Hold of Urns can Dissolve then any Organic Material in the Hold could be Infected... and Eventually become the Eggs?

Another thing to Consider regarding the Evolving Cargo and Few Hundred Years, is COULD it be Prior to the Outbreak?  The only way this would make Sense would be if the Derelict had been Parked on LV-223 and its Cargo Hold Evolved, and a incoming group of Engineers Arrive at LV-223 and go to the Derelict and Discovery something had Evolved... but then its HOW does this Connect with the Later Outbreak?

However... Speculation on the Derelict Event and Ridley Scotts Comments back in 2012 are MOOT!   As with Alien Covenant it is indicating that as of the Year 2105 there are NO EGGS on the Derelict!  And so the Idea that RS had back then and Comments are NOT applicable anymore!

However because we have NOT yet seen those Eggs on the Derelict as FAR as them getting on the Ship.... then THINGS could be Changed... and IF they do so, then that does-not mean they would go back to the Idea that RS had as of 2012 in that the Event Happened about 200 Years prior or after the LV-223 Outbreak after something Evolved in the Cargo Hold...

If they CHANGE the David Created the Eggs on the Derelict Plot, then what they Change the Revelation and Origin too, does not have to Match what RS had mentioned in 2012 etc.

The LV-223 Juggernaught is a different Matter as we know 100% those Cryo-Pod Engineers had been Killed a LONG TIME ago...

So we have a Ball Park we can place their FATE around.

And so bringing up the Pyramid Structure is Interesting.

If we look at those Images we can see there is a Central Shaft that Runs to the Cistern at the Top of the Shaft we have what is described as Vapor.

These mean there is WATER! and during the Scene when Holloway takes of his Helmet we see they are in some Central Place and there is Dripping Water.

This Scene indicates that the Engineers were Terra-forming as the Atmosphere inside was Breathable Compared to Outside.  Water is H2O and so from that you can make Oxygen.

So the Vapor must be how they extract Water and Turn that into Oxygen.

Maybe we can assume what Happens if the Water Supply is Infected?  If the Engineers are similar to us then Logically they would Need Water for Certain and we can assume Oxygen.

A Accidental/Deliberate Contamination of the Water could be a way that Engineers could be Infected without any Knowledge until its TOO LATE!

We know there was a Outbreak, it appears in the Thousands of Years that had Passed there was NOTHING from this Infection/Outbreak that was a THREAT...

The Threat coming from Fresh Leak of Black Goo from the Ampoule Room after the Prometheus Crew entered the Ampoule Room with NO Helmets.

In 2012 and 2013 we had RS mention a few times about the Pathogen and what if this stuff infects a Water Supply, and that after a Period of Hundreds of Years the Contamination would be Clear and Engineers Safe to Return to a Infected World.

So maybe any Contamination be it in the Air or Water could become Stable/Dissipated over time?   And in Alien Covenant this could even had Happened in a Lesser Time, unless the GOO was Programed a Certain way or there was a Safe-Gard to Eradicate a Infection?

I think to look at the OT...

From the Moment we get our Eggs on the Derelict the Rest is Quite Basic and Straight Forwards.... the Origins of those Eggs and how they came to be is where its a bit FIDDLY!

Looking at the Occam’s Razor POV that you started Chli i would say the Summery is Quite Accurate. 

At some point the Engineers on LV-223 had Experimented with stuff that we see a likely End Product being in those URNS that are to be USED to Eradicate Mankind.

But messing about with such Deadly Stuff, became their downfall after some OUTBREAK which we can only Speculate as to HOW this happened.

If we accept Alien Covenant then it appears this Biological Weapon had Produced the STARTING point for David to carry out Various Experiments until he Obtained his Xenomorph.   And that before we get to ALIEN we would see this Creation go through some more Engineering/Evolving before we get to those EGGS.

This Further Engineering/Evolving does-not even have to come from David... Engineers could come and Continue his Work, or even some Hybrid Humans that he Creates... or EVEN it could be that the Company Engineers those EGGS!

We have YET to reach that Conclusion, and so things could take a Change or even another U-Turn.

The LARGER piece of the Puzzle is the Black Goo Origins...

We can see those LV-223 Experiments and Black Goo are Connected.... but its still a PUZZLE on how this connects with the SACRIFICIAL Scene...  The FULL details/origins of this TOOL is still up for some Debate.

A Simple Explanation would be that either the Goo is Pre-programed to Produce Xenomorph like Results and THUS the Sacrificial Scene Now becomes the Seeding of this Pathogen and NOT the Origins of Mankind.

Or that the Pathogen is just a TOOL that can Re-map the Genomes of Organic Matter and so can be USED to Program any Organic Creation...  If we look at EVERY Life-Form has a Genetic Map/Code of Billions of Data..   so you could use the Pathogen to say Program the Skin Color of Human, Eye Color, or you can alter other DATA, so that we can Change a Human to a Ape, or even ANYTHING else.

Then it becomes a Convenient Tool and Plot Device.

What i am saying is the Total Genetic Code of a African Native, European Native and Asian Native are all a 100% DNA Match but the Genetic Code has differences that Determine the Differences of Race, and even Differences within a Set Race...  Eye Color, Hair, etc

If we look at Cats, then a Lion, Tiger and Jaguar all look a bit different, but they SHARE a High % of DNA and Genetic Code.....  taking the FEW strings of Code that make a Lion different to a Jaguar, and if say we had a TOOL to Change the Differences and Reprogram that to INFECT a Lion we could Speculate we could CHANGE the Lion to a Jaguar.... or even a JONESEY!

When we look at a Human vs a Cat then our DNA would be Quite Close like 90% Match... but its other DATA/Differences that make us Different.

What if there was a TOOL that can Map/Re-progam those Differences?

So if you Change the Data Strings that are Different in a CAT to that of a HUMAN could you Turn a Cat Genetic Material into a Human?

We are talking Science Fiction with the Franchise but my POINT being that if the GOO is a Tool to Genetically Reprogram a Organisms Genetic Code... then it would become a CONVENIENT Plot Device...

The GOO would in effect be a CREATION TOOL, but also we could have it as something that can MERGE/HYBRID such Data to Create Hybrids..

Such a Path would make it a A.I of sorts.. a Tool that can be Programed... it could be Programed to INFECT only Organisms that MATCH a Certain Code and then either Replace Certain Codes with others or to just Break Down this Genetic Code and Replicate the Virus... or even Render ALL the Target/Programed Genetic Code/Material to become a Solid/Crystallized...  that would EXPLAIN the Planet 4 Engineers!

I think this is Convenient, and maybe what they intend with the Radical AI McGuffin!

So if we Imagine Organisms are Comprised of like Rubik's Cubes

A Rubik Cube has 54 Squares but this can give 43,252,003,274,489,856,000 possible Combinations, or 43.2 Quintillion

Can you imagine how many Combinations for say 1000 Cubes.... then Imagine if you had a 1000 Cubes where they was all set the same apart from TWO Sqaures on ONE of the Cubes and in Genetic Terms this Changes the Color of a Eye?

If we consider such a comparison with Genetic Code, then the GOO could be a TOOL to Copy/Clone/Combine/Hybrid Codes or even Reprogram them...

In this theory if David had the Genetic Code Map of a Xenomorph and Programed the GOO with that CODE and it Infected a Organism it would Imprint the Xenomorph DNA on it.... 

So this could MEAN that David had NOT created the Xenomorph, if we look at it like that... but thats not to say that this is the Case.

If we look at the GOO in this way, then the Engineers could maybe have Dabbled with the Code and By Accident Produced something that Predated the Xenomorph/Deacon and they FOUND this was Interesting and they Further Continued to Play around with this Specific Code and became Perverted to Want to EVOLVE all Life with this CODE instead of using the Engineers Genetic Code.

This could Constitute a FALL of sorts...

This kind of THEORY would basically allow them to USE the Goo Plot to do what ever they Fancy.... and would explain the Sacrificial Scene having Different Result.

The Goo could be Programed to Break Down Engineer and Replicate his DNA/CODE to either Evolve/Mutate Life it comes into Contact with, or to become Basic Life.

The Goo could been Programed to Break Down Engineer and become a Substance that instead would PROGRAM onto Organisms it comes into Contact with... with a different CODE.. say Xenomorph Related Code.

Or it could be Programed to Change the Genetic Building Blocks of a Organism into a Solid Mater...  so the Sacrificial Engineer who consumes such a Programed Goo would simply turn into a Desiccated Statue like those Planet 4 Engineers.

If this kind of Theory was Applied it would make the Goo what ever anyone wants and it would be the ULTIMATE TOOL of Creation or Death.

The Connection to the Xenomorph would thus be the Perversion of the Substance by Programing it to Create Horrific Forms of Life, that those Engineers who conducted this wanted to Unleash/Evolve other Life into..

David took their Work and Tweaked it a little.

Sorry for LONG POST and if its a it OFF TOPIC ;)

I am not someone that has studied biology or anything like that so I only judge from what I have seen in Prometheus.

The Engineers got the goo from somewhere and they must have found something to use it on. Maybe the goo had been used to increase Xeno tendencies that was in that kind of life-form so the goo gave it increased aggression and so on. Compare it to the worm that swam in the goo in Prometheus. The closer the life-form is initially to the Xeno the less of the substance it needs to come to the end-result. If it is further from the Xeno and has some traits the more goo is needed.

We have the mural but that is so vague so that could be anything that you read into it. I am not sure if that is very much to go on.

Eight years since Prometheus and I am still disappointed with the Zombie version, it is bad. Since humans are basically the same physically I guess that they would have become like Fifield even though I guess that they could be different since people have different personalities.

Having Daniels as the queen is lame since that suggests that David is responsible for it and I can not in any way accept that. You can go that route but I would dislike it so much.

I think that the things that it is about is

1. Where did the goo come from
2. How does it work
3. Does it affect different life-forms in different ways and if so how is that difference (like I can imagine that the cells are different between a cow and a human) and
4. How do we we get the Xeno
5. Are those on LV426 the only ones that exist by that time
6. How do we get from egg-morphing to a queen

At least they did not damage the origins of the goo so at least that is a mystery (phew!) even if they hinted that David did the original version of the Xeno (an explanation that is crap). It should be kept as a mystery I think. About the queen it looks interesting but it has been used too much.

About the Space Jockey and what happened I think that Prometheus hints at that so I am OK with it never being shown. I don't think that they showed us where the weapons were or what exactly happened but then the ship could be very big so we did not see every room (if the rooms in Alien and Prometheus carried similar things). Perhaps the Engineer was already having Xeno-like monsters to bomb earth with (maybe from experiments on LV223). Maybe the derelict in Alien works the same but maybe a different ship (like say Volvo makes different cars but they look different). The difference is that the derelict stopped closer or further from earth but then we do not know if the Engineers and the SJ are the same version. Sorry if this is confusing.

“*Xenomorph was Discovered by the Engineers, and this lead to the Experiments on them to Create the Horrors on LV-223
*The Xenomorph was a Eventual Result of the Experiments that was Conducted on LV-223, be that a Engineered/Designed Result or a Unintentional One.
And thats the WAY they should have left it…"

Yeah, they should never have made Covenant if you ask me.

"What we could Conclude or Speculate to a Logical Conclusion was that the Xenomorph was something that either was the PRECURSOR to those Experiments/Black Goo on LV-223 or that they were the PRECURSOR to the Xenomorph."

Makes sense

I look at LV223 as either a space lab or a military outpost. It can be either or since it is not very much explained but I don't mind that we never get that explanation. The Engineers created it on LV223 and the pilot was about bombing earth with it but got infected and landed on LV426.

Your Questions are Hard to Answer in Context to Alien Covenant.... prior to Alien Covenant they was NOT that Hard to get a Answer ;)

I can try and Answer if we go back prior and ignore Alien Covenant ;) but this means these Answers may seem Logical prior to 2017 but are a bit MOOT now.

"1. Where did the goo come from"

Thats the 64 Million $$$ Question, we just dont really know and we can only Endlessly Speculate.  It likely was Obtained or Created but by WHO? is a Mystery, at the Very Least it was USED as a Creation/Hybridization Tool.

"2. How does it work"

Again a Mystery if we look at Prometheus is a bit Ambiguous, but if we look at Prometheus and look at the Scarabs in Jon Spaights Draft and imagine the GOO is the same... Then it seems the GOO can Break Down a Organism into a Substance that Contains/Stores the Organisms DNA and this Substance then Passes on this DNA Traits onto Organisms it comes into Contact with.

"3. Does it affect different life-forms in different ways and if so how is that difference"

I would say it seems that it depends on HOW Much Goo the Organism is in Contact with, and HOW it comes into Contact with it. I would assume the URNS contain the Result of a Organism that was Sacrificed (Sacrificial Goo) that is Related to the Mural or a Precursor to it.

"4. How do we we get the Xeno"

A Mystery but likely as a Result of the Black Goo and Various Experiments on LV-223... if we look at maybe what David did on Planet 4... well i would suspect prior to AC the idea was the Engineers had done similar on LV-223... or that the Xenomorph was a Unintended Evolution of those Experiments or Infection.

"5. Are those on LV426 the only ones that exist by that time"

If we are talking about Ignoring Alien Covenant... then who knows, as with (5) it depends if the Xenomorph was a Engineered Experiment in which case, we CANT rule out there being more Ships with them or Variants of Xenomorphs.  If it is a Unintentional Result or Evolution then the Derelict could be the ONLY one to have those Eggs.

"6. How do we get from egg-morphing to a queen"

Thats just a case of Abandoning One idea for a Queen, we could Speculate that the Xenomorph in ALIEN and ALIENS come from Different Cargo Holds and are Variants with different Procreation Methods.  Or that the Egg Morph would lead to a Queen or a Royal Face Hugger, or that the Queen was a Mutation/Evolution.

Jon Spaights work gives a more Simple Explanation... here is what i take from Alien Genesis/Engineers.

The Engineers have/use a Creation Tool for Extracting and then Passing on a Organisms DNA onto other Organisms to Create Hybrids.

They Discover a Organism that they had NOT Created and see the Results of this Organism, and become Interesting in it.  They then use their Creation Tool to Obtain its DNA and Create Various Hybrids from it... which results in 8 Different Variants of the Xenomorph Organism.  They intended to USE on Mankind to Eradicate us.

This Organism they Encountered but did-not Create would likely be the Holloway Organism in Spaights Work...  and its maybe the Organism in Question as FAR as Prometheus is what was on the Frescos!

The Derelict/Juggernaught i think is another Mystery, i FIND that Carrying Eggs as a Weapon is Flawed... and surely they DONT drop them down from a Height?

Looking at LV-223 and the Sacrificial Engineer Scene (inc Deleted) i SUSPECT the Juggernauts are NOT a Bio-Weapon Carrying Ship....  they WHERE just Advanced Seeding Ships.... that could also RESET a World...

But the whole LV-223 Horrors and Xenomorph are a Perversion/Creation by some Fallen/Twisted Engineers.

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I will add that the LV-223 and LV-426 Connection could have been explored in a Number of Ways.... rather than Alien Covenants Set-Up....

A Sequel that went to LV-223 and was NOT about David/Dr Shaw could have Provided more Answers... that would KEPT the Origins as Ancient...   Then we could have had RS go and make his Engineers Story with David and Dr Shaw and have it NOT have to Connect to LV-223 or the Xenomorph.

But ALAS!  

Shame as i could come up with a Number of Ways prior to AC that LV-223 connected to LV-426, that would also tied the Engineers into it as far as WHY they was Fallen... well those on LV-223.

It seems fitting that the coronavirus might, accidentally, have spread from a laboratory in China, doesn't it?

Well we cant be 100% Certain on that..... if this is the case then maybe its ACCIDENTAL.

In Context to LV-223 then i think we cant rule out something Accidentally getting out of Control on LV-223, but looking at LV-223 this is a bit of a PUZZLE and we dont have the Full Facts/Date for example is the Outbreak only Contained to ONE of the Complexes?

For a Outbreak to effect a Single Temple Complex i think could be Accidental, if it Infected more then i would Suspect that its some kind of Deliberate Act/Sabotage.

Looking at Prometheus i would ASSUME the Engineers Space Jockey Suits would act as some kind of Hazmat Suit to protect them from the Pathogen but also to Prevent them from affecting the Pathogen/Room.  As the Big Head Room did seem to have something that kept the Bio-Weapon in Stasis (Preservation of the Head) and the Ampoules.

So my take on the Outbreak would be some kind of SABOTAGE and so Bio-Terrorism.   Regarding COVID-19 then Indeed Labs would study Pathogens and Viruses and that means Potential Accidents can happen.

Since the pathogen is highly unstable, and we have Janek's explanation, I would say that it's "human" error. I would also say that "the infection" spread naturally to the other facilities - wiping out everything and everyone, except perhaps one Engineer who made it to a juggernaut (eventually the Derelict).

There still is a mystery about the pilot (on LV-223). Where is he? Were all cryopods occupied or was one empty?

The LV-223 Facility is something that still holds a lot of MYSTERY

We do have Janeks Explanation and i think we cant throw that out, as the Dialect in Prometheus i feel is used to Push us to Conclusions...

So we dont really know what Protocols are in Place for any Outbreak, we dont 100% know for How-Long the Engineers have been messing about with the Pathogen on LV-223, all we know is the Facility is likely to have been there for 35'000 Years at least (But we cant 100% be certain it had the same use all that Long ago).

We can not be 100% sure for How-Long they had been Experimenting with Strains that are the same or similar to what we see in Prometheus, but you would EXPECT the Engineers to have some Knowledge and Precautions with the Pathogen.

There appears to be 5 Complexes, these seem to be Positioned apart for a Reason, and if they contain Experiments that differ a little, then keeping them apart is a Good Idea.

Each Complex has Multiple Rooms and Corridors, we know some of the Rooms have Urns/Vases in them and so maybe act as Storage, we have to ASSUME maybe some Rooms are for TESTING.

I would assume the way the Rooms are Sealed Off, that should any Spillage or Outbreak Occurs then they could SEAL OFF a certain area.

I would assume the Space Suits are there as some kind of Bio-Hazard Suit that both Protects the Engineers from Infection but also protects the Pathogen from being Triggered.

Dr Shaw made some comparisons to Ebola, now when we see the Pathogen infect the Engineers on Planet 4 we see that it seems to Infect and Replicate inside of them and then is Expelled from the Host.... if Ebola Caused as Severe Reaction and so it caused Infected to Projectile Vomit Infected Blood for Meters then this would make the Virus Spread Greater.

We did see the Engineers Head Explode in the Lab, but this was maybe a Accelerated Effect, we do see the Dead Engineers Suits appear to be Hollow and we had seen the Sacrificial Engineer break down to SOUP so under certain Circumstances (amount of Pathogen etc) the Goo could cause a Infected person to Spew Out replicated amounts of Pathogen, and in some cases we could see the Body Explode and Spread more of the Stuff into the Air/Water.

All we can do is Speculate, i would assume the Space Jockey Suits would Protect Against Infection, unless the Engineers are infected prior to Suiting Up.  I would also assume that some Environments/Measures can be Maintained in a way that makes the Pathogen In-Active and Finally i would assume that Certain Areas can be SEALED/LOCKED DOWN.

I can see a Accidental Spillage/Outbreak infect a Certain Number of Engineers, but i find it unlikely as to HOW it would get to other Complexes.

There are so Many Mysteries about LV-223 such as it Appears as far as i can remember that 7-8 Engineers managed to get to the Big Head Room before the DOOR came down... what happened to them?  Are they the Numerous Bodies we see in the Corridor?  But they to me look like other Engineers who had also attempted to get to Certain Rooms before LOCK DOWN.

What we do know is there was a OUTBREAK.. it Killed a Number of Engineers, and maybe it Killed them all? 

Maybe ONLY a Certain Number of Engineers came to that Specific Complex at a Specific Time to prepare a MISSION to Earth and these Guys suffered the Outbreak.  So that the Outpost is maybe NOT manned all the Time, the Engineers come in, they Load Up with Pathogen and they Ship Out.

We Certainly have to wonder WHY the Engineers never came back to Secure this Place, or Destroy it.   Or why they never came back to Finish the Job. 

It is likely they decided to Abandon us and leave us to ROT, we are likely NOT the only World with Humanoid Life, and its likely that NOT every such World had Warranted a Eradication Order.

Maybe they appointed some Engineers to Watch over the Complex, is this what the Last Engineer was, or was he just a LUCKY Survivor?

Regarding the Derelict.... i think thats a Different Debate, in light of Alien Covenant and we already have had the David did-not Create it Topics.

I will say in Context to that slightly....  the Pathogen in Certain Circumstances can Create Life.   We see that was the case with Dr Shaw and the Trilobite, we see this with the Neomorph's from Alien Covenant.

So when we look at the Juggernaught then indeed we see that 3 of the Engineers in Cryo-sleep had been Infected, they all appear to have Holes around the Chest Area....   We see NO evidence of Face Huggers..... but thats not to say they could not be INSIDE the Cryo-Pod and Obscured from View.  It would be a case of HOW/WHEN would they had been Infected by such Organisms?

However with the Neomorph's it shows us the Pathogen has a way to Infect someone and cause a Organism to Gestate inside, and then Tear itself from inside a Host.. which makes for a more Viable Explanation of the Chest Busted Engineers in Cryo-sleep.

We have to remember at the Time of Prometheus the intention was to Indicate that the Pathogen and Experiments include the Mural are indications of Horrors that likely Pre-Date the Xenomorph.   Back prior to Alien Covenant we had Ridley Scott say that the Derelict was infected by something that had Evolved in the Cargo Hold and go to the Pilot and this Happened within a Few Hundred years of the Outbreak on LV-223 which if we Consider what we was being shown, means that likely the Derelict at that time had something that Evolved in the Cargo Hold after the Outbreak.

So in Context to the Juggernaught then some Organism could have resulted from the Outbreak, if this Happened on the Juggernaught it cant be Ruled out that Similar could Happen to other Cargo Holds.

When we come down to the SURVIVOR... we have to ask was he LUCKY? or did he play some PART in the Outbreak?

It seems obvious that the suits can't protect them. Kane was attacked through his helmet. It seems reasonable that LV-223 was quarentined and abandoned meaning that everyone was dead (in all the complexes).

I also think there should be a hive somewhere on LV-223 with hibernating xenomorphs . . .

A Quarantine and Abandoning of LV-223 sounds likely.

The Space Suits as far as Protection i mean in regards to the Pathogen, but NOT any Organisms that are Created or Evolve from it.  I make that Assumption based on the Complex and Ships being able to Sustain Human Life with NO Masks, and how the Engineers seem to be Engineered to Survive the Hostile Environment of the Surface of LV-223.

Regarding a Hive on LV-223 well thats down to Personal Opinion, it really is Hard to come up with any Evidence to Proof or Disprove such.

The Engineers had Experimented with similar Organisms, the Process of this is OPEN for Debate.  (Alien Engineers offers some insight but is that Canon).

As is the After-Math of the Outbreak, while we can Speculate on the Dead Engineers, it does seem Very Likely that some Organisms had Infected and Chest Busted from the Engineers in Cryo-Sleep...  What Happened to these Organisms is anyone's Guess.

LV-223 is Large, and so if there was some Native Organism the Engineers Experimented on, it would be UNWISE to build your Test Facilities so close to them.... who is to say any Would-Be Organism they Experimented with came from LV-223 also?

We had seen those Worms.... was they Native to LV-223, if NOT then they had been brought to LV-223 prior to the Prometheus and IF there was a Outbreak in the Past, then we cant RULE-OUT if those Worms had been infected in the Past too.

So we really cant tell what became of anything relating to those Experiments on LV-223, they could be Destroyed, they could be Unleashed somewhere or Stored Somewhere or even Roaming Free on LV-223?  We can only Speculate.

What is interesting is the AFTER-MATH of the Outbreak in 2093!

What became of the Deacon?

What became of the Hammerpedes (we saw more than TWO Worms in the Room with the Leaking Urns/Vases

Now this is a little OFF TOPIC... but i guess they are results of the Bio-Weapon, and we on Planet 4 the Dead Engineers are NOT the only result of the Bio-Weapon either.

So a World that has been Infected can Produce some Horrors... beyond Xenomorphs.  The ONE thing we do see from the Xenomorphs is a Natural Instinct for Procreation and so i think its Interesting to Speculate on IF/HOW would the Hammerpede and Deacon Procreate.

What would anyone who Returns to LV-223 Discover?

I think if we are to THROW OUT the Prequels or Especially in regards to  Alien Covenant, then we can Speculate on a bit more...

But Regardless there is Scope for Horrors that are similar to the Xenomorph, and from what i have Studied with the Franchise, i think the Horrors that we have seen have come from a Common Ancestor... where the Pathogen/Creation Tool has been used on something ELSE to Create a whole matter of Horrors of which the Xenomorph is a Eventual Outcome.