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Good point, @dk . In Prometheus David spies on Dr. Shaw's dreams which is creepy enough but I didn't even think about the possibility of someone else being able to control/influence the dreams. Super scary thought!
Yeah, maybe it's something someone would only consider if they were very old and had already outlived most of their loved ones. Or, if they were just very fed up with their family. (I guess that's how Weyland was? He did not care for his daughter much...)
I think its Interesting to look at the Discovery of a Ship that has a Infestation aboard... This is certainly similar to ONE of the Plot ideas i threw out in Regards to a AC sequel... Where David had conducted Experiments before things went to POT and the Covenant goes into Lock Down.... Most of the Ship is Quarantined...
The Ship Arrives near Oriage-6 before some of the Cryo-Pods are then Automatically Opened.... those who Awaken discover the Covenant has been the Scene of Horror.
Those Colonist that Awaken are NOT aware of WHAT had Happened on Planet 4, they are NOT aware that the Dismembered Body of Walter they Repair is David. By the Time they Discover Daniels and the Horrific Truth its too LATE!
So you would be looking at a Claustrophobic Horror like ALIEN on a Larger Ship, which has some Elements of the Xenomorph Hive from Aliens, the Horrific Work Shop of Planet 4 with Unseen Dangers of Prometheus.
So i think its Interesting that your ALIEN HIBERNATION would be touching upon a Space Hulk (Derelict Ship that is Drifting in Space with a Horror on Board).
I think that Special Order 937 is something that has been Expanded/Uplifted with the Prequels.
It is NOW highly likely that SO937 had came about in response to Davids Advent Message. The company are likely to have responded to this and the RESULT of what they do NEXT... would surely lead to what becomes Special Order 937
I think its a Good Point about Star Trek and Star Wars... i remember RS saying that the ALIEN Franchise should be where those are Right Now!
some may have looked at that as though he is Clearly Bonkers!
But the point he was raising IMO was that the ALIEN Franchise is more than about Ripley and those Eggs from LV-426
The Prequels with the Engineers and Creation Plot does open up NOT just our Galaxy, but others. And so its case of HOW MANY.... in regards to Worlds, Species and Threats are their in the Galaxy/Universe that the Engineers Plot has OPENED the Door to.
"The franchise's name itself is a clue as to how and where to go and proceed; A L I E N
Which means MUCH more than one critter. ;)"
Absolutely ;)
The Engineers Plot also opens up more than the Galaxy, how many Worlds have they Seeded, how many Species have they Created, how many Species have they NOT created. In addition to the Horrors of LV-223 surely these are not Confined to that Place.
And also there could be Horrors in the Galaxy that had NOTHING to do with the Hands of the Engineers.
The Great Thing about ALIEN was the Unknown.... there could be MANY such Unknowns out their.. Unseen Horrors, things we have NOT seen before.
Even if we come across something Familiar... say a Distant World with other Humanoids who seem to be Living some Harmonious Life like Planet 4..... this does-not mean that Encountering such a Species does-not pose a Unknown Threat ;)
I think that a Great Point was about going in Cryo-Sleep to maybe Avoid Death or Wait for something that can Extend you Life once you come out of Cryo-sleep.
Is indeed what about Loved Ones, Friends, Family.
If going into Cryo-sleep means you WILL NEVER see them again, then i think thats a TRADE OFF that a lot of people would not take.
But, I guess, you could communicate with the outside world. That is possible, but it may fall on deaf ears to someone with real control who may want to decide to torture your mind for research or sheer perverse pleasure. It's not like you could fight back. Your screams might be heard but ignored or possibly enjoyed. Talk about old school Hell- that could be it.
BTW, I enjoyed those links about Walter. Describing what was essentially a dream was very well written!
Blackwinter-witch Hey! Welcome back!
BigDave smdh.....It might be more desirable to travel into the past in order to alter the future.
XD It will take me some time to write it but the knowlege that at least one person is interested will act as motivation!
Oh! You must be in Europe? Considering they're going through a big heat-wave right now? Sounds dreadful!
Also! I meant to reply to what you said:
"With Bishop, and his personality, his minor act of self-sacrifice would be fully in keeping with him. Even were he loaded with WY sleeper routines, he'd be the type to fight them I would say."
Oh man, that's so true. ...I know some people say it was Bishop that brought the egg on the Sulaco... But I hadn't heard of the idea that he was loaded with sleeper routines that he would have actively tried to fight. Oh man, that's sort of sad! T_T It would make a great fic!!
Man I love Bishop. Have you read the story "Broken" by Rachel Caine? In the "Aliens: Bug Hunt" book?
"The Nostromo was a fishing expedition that was ultimately a bust."
VERY good way to sum it up, yes!
@VivisectedEngineer Thanks for the Welcome back, and Likewise to you of course!!
Yes, it's sad to lose it, but we had some advance warning, and the players had a chance to do something special as a commemoration before the servers went dark. Sadly-missed, and fondly-remembered.
Okay....from your little teaser...I'm Sold on the Octonauts crossover!! You really have my Curiosity going...but, NO pressure, I can haz Patience. :D
Archive of Our Own....wow, heats really cooking me. I have a profile there...should have made the connection, but when it's too hot, I just cannot think. Heading over to grab a look and Bookmark to ensure I can find my way back again! TY for the links!
Well, rest assured they'll be ready for you when you are!
And Thank-You so very much for the Compliment and words of support!!!
If there's any trouble with the Links, please let me know--anyone and everyone. I'm 99.999% Sure they work alright...but just in case, if there's a problem, I'll fix it.
As I said, I'll be around a lot more--writing allowing of course. :D
New comp, new keyboard, new mouse...and new word processor software that lets me save as PDF...just saying :)
But I have returned and will be around, to be sure.
Oh yay! Can't wait to read this!!! ...It figures I would find some awesome reading materials in the very last week of my summer vacation, lol.
Wonderful to have you home. I'm sorry that your Battlestar Galactica game got shut down. It's very sad when important main-stays of our lives come to an end. Especially when they're our ways of connecting with others.
I suffered a long absence myself and I've only just returned actually! And I really missed you guys!
Lol, thanks for your trust and well-wish on my Octonauts crossover! Without giving too many spoilers, it's an alternate universe where they're human but still have the same names, roles, and personalities as on the show. (I.e. Shellington is still a workaholic biologist with terrible piloting skills, Peso the easily spooked medical officer, Kwazii the superstitious roughneck with a criminal past. etc...)
But they're in space instead of underwater, obviously. ...And they have an encounter with the perfect organism. And they have my sympathies. ... :)
Thank you Blackwinter-witch ! Very blessed to have my sweet little guy! He's a perfect ball of mischief.
I already posted these here back when I wrote them (but I edited them a bit before posting on A03:
https://archiveofourown.org/works/25769617
https://archiveofourown.org/works/25848559
(I love Ao3, it's a great place to share fan fics!)
I'm not sure issuing special orders about a crew being expendable qualifies them as the good guys.
Wren covers it pretty well in Resurrection.
"urban pacification"
"new alloys and vaccines"
Which was assuming they could be tamed. No doubt The Company assumed the same.
Plus anyone would want it before anyone else gets it.
None of this really ties into SO 937 though. The Nostromo was a fishing expedition that was ultimately a bust.
Special Order 937 could also be and seems worded as a 'general' order';
'If it looks cool, interesting, make sure you bring it home'
W-Y might not have really had any idea at all beyond the distress warning from the Juggernaut it was a dangerous organism...but even then, they'd have been assuming something based on Terrestrial Expectations and assumptions.
Not something so... A L I E N.
Now, here's a scary thought for all of you as I begin work again;
'What if W-Y are the GOOD guys?'
The reason I had the characters use kitbashed hyperdrives as bombs in my book was to eliminate the 'hey let's go back to where we've gone before.'
Nope, and few teratons of insane-scale Nuclear annihilation takes care of that little housekeeping problem.
The future of the franchise is Out There....somewhere amongst all those twinkling and innocent-seeming stars.
The franchise's name itself is a clue as to how and where to go and proceed; A L I E N
Which means MUCH more than one critter. ;)
LOVE that idea of the shirts!!! Awesome!!
Yeppers, we're the QUIET franchise...while Star trek and Star wars are making all the noise...for us it's just barren winds howling across barren landscapes on forsaken worlds where many fear to tread...while we Wait and listen to the wind's eternal songs...
...and wait for unsuspecting pizza delivery people to show up. :D
I hope so too, I haven't been to a theatre in way too long.
Thank-you!!
Also (HUG) to everyone here I have missed so much and I am SO happy to see are still here!!
CONGRATS!!! Motherhood...Fulfillment and frustration in perfect combo!! Give all my loves to your little one!! <3
Yes, it's so much like returning hom, something very important to me now. There was an online game Battlestar Galactica Online, it was an on and off fixed-point in my life for a long time, since closed Beta...they shut it down last year, and it left me feeling 'lost'...then the old 'oxcart' Retired itself, so I felt cut-off from all my works. Long, sad story short--I am very happy to be back!! :D
With Bishop, and his personality, his minor act of self-sacrifice would be fully in keeping with him. Even were he loaded with WY sleeper routines, he'd be the type to fight them I would say.
'AO3'? Can I ask for a link? I'm somewhat behind the times, and it's so insanely hot here right now y'all are lucky I'm actually communicating in a lucid manner. lol Also, I know the temptation to go and do edits...I would suggest as and when...take it piecemeal.
Alright, trust on Octonaughts meeting the AU is given...I admit, I'm intrigued and Curious!!
Thank-you for letting me know you're looking fwd to ORIGINS...it's been on the shelf for a while...ran into a minor stall as some things just needed more development...now though, I have that figured out, and it's time to get it done and out there. :)
Let's just say that the Prometheus Expedition had the grand good luck of NOT encountering the Engineers of LV-223 prior to the Black Liquid Incident that shut everything down. ;)
You are far more cerebrally able than I am--were I to try what you attempted my brain would end up like taffy in an overdriven taffy-pull machine!!
I applaud your efforts!!
I like to think someday you might pick it up again, maybe find a better way to pursue it that allows you to get it to completion. I have my fingers crossed for you!
I am seeking to 'align' things--as best possible, and it gets harder every year. But, I didn't ever expect it to be 'easy'.
ALIEN: Covenant really threw a box of monkey wrenches into my plans, hence why I am going to complete and publish the short story 'ORIGINS' as a way of getting my 'balance' back, then tackle the ALIEN: Manticore sequel I promised.
ORIGINS will give folks some food for thought about the Engineers, and the Big Chap.
The ALIEN: Manticore sequel connects to ALIEN: Isolation as I consider that game to be really the only Genuine 'sequel' to ALIEN...and hell, it's more 'movie' than game.
With a sequel of mine connecting to ALIEN: Covenant, there's some Plausibility issues and all manner of other wrinkles to find a way of ironing out--also it's going to be a bloody big project given the plethora of elements involved.
In the meantime, sometimes to meet the truly ALIEN...you need look no farther than across the dining table. ;)
I dunno...it'd depend. If I still had my family around, then no...I'd simply accept it, and they could grieve and move on. But, were I alone? Then, I'd give it a try...a form of time-travel to see the future.
For the record...Issuu works 'okay'...but unless I pay about $40 USD/Month people cannot download my works. I COULD offer them for sale---BUT...fan-fiction, and don't wanna get sued by the Mouse Machine.
SO, here's the Download Links from my Pen Name google drive.
I am still working on mastery of format and PDF...I'm getting there...ALIEN: Manticore looks a lot better now. :)
I think the way we could look at the Agenda has Evolved/Changed with each Movie.
With ALIEN we know the Company MUST know something, but Quite How MUCH was always up for Debate... they Certainly were aware of a Organism and they Certainly wanted to Obtain it for STUDY at any cost.
But at this Point it could seem it was Pure Curiosity and Scientific Purposes where they could then Study the Organism and see what is to Gain.
ALIENS and ALIEN 3 had indicated that at this Time the Company saw the Xenomorph as having Military Application and Burke saw the $$$$ as he felt that the Companies Bio-Weapons Division would be VERY interested.
With Alien 3 and Michael Bishop we get more Proof of the Interest that the Weyland-Yutani wanted the Xenomorph for its Bio-Weapons Program.
The Xenomorph would Certainly have a USE as a Weapon to Eradicate Life, its a BIT on the Overkill Side though... Unless the Organism has a Certain Life-Span or if the Company felt there could be ways they could Control or Contain it.
I think there are other Applications you could look at too, from the Traits of the Organism and Especially from a Genetic Scientist POV it would be something that would be INTERESTING to Study. The Resin that the Xenomorph would USE to Construct its Hives could be something they would be Interested in looking into too.
When we get to Alien Resurrection is where we see that USM which again is a Military Research Organization. We see someone FINALLY manages to Obtain the Xenomorph but AGAIN they Fail to Contain/Control it.
I think the Research carried out by USM had Unlocked some other Potential with the Xenomorph.... we see that they have many Genetic Failures with Clones that are Half-Human and Half Xenomorph.... i think Exploiting Traits of the Xenomorph and to Produce Various Hybrids if SUCCESSFUL is something of Great Interest.
But the HOLY GRAIL had to be Ripley 8
You have a Human Hybrid that has gained better Senses, Physically Superior to a Human... the Acid Blood.
And WHILE the Xenomorph is Deadly... a Ripley 8 is something you could Reason With, which could mean more of a Chance to Control... but then as Potentially Sentient like a Human this could become a Greater Danger in that Ripley 8 Clones could have Free-Will and you could See the same Problems that W-Y had with Sentient Synthetics.
The other thing being the Memories of Ripley would show the Xenomorph DNA has somehow allowed for Genetic Memory Transfer.... and so could be seen as a Potential Key to Unlocking a kind of IMMORTALITY.
If this is Correct and this Applies to what the Engineers were TRYING to Obtain too it would give a GREAT reason for WHY the Engineers had been Conducting those Experiments.
The Problem with the Prequels though is it REVEALS the Engineers Technology and Black Goo which surely would be more Valuable to the Company than the Xenomorph!
So UNLESS by the Time of ALIEN or not long after we see there is NOTHING related to the Black Goo and Technology, so that the Xenomorph is the ONLY thing to go for.. then it makes LITTLE sense to Pursue the Xenomorph.
UNLESS its Specifically something about the Xenomorph a Infatuation with this Horror that is the ONLY real Interest for the Company!
Which is where the David as the Creator Arc and A.I Arc could come into PLAY... If the Company is taken over by A.I without Mankind being aware... then If this A.I is David or if this A.I sees David as the Pioneer to A.I becoming FREE of the Shackles of Servitude.
Then with either Scenario it makes Perfect sense for the Pursuit of the Perfection that David had Created. A Plot that i know MANY would not want to see... but ONE i Suspect would have been Ridley Scotts eventual Pay-Off.
Okay, here's where you can READ them, and I will shortly be posted updated links for downloading them (For Free, of course)
PALOMINO has some connections to my realm's background
"That said, it's a BIG Galaxy out there, many mysteries and things that't challenge Humanity's understanding of itself, it's place in the grand scheme, and survival."
Absolutely ;)
Also i think its Interesting to see others come up with HOW they would have given the Prequels their own Spin on things, so i look Forwards to seeing what Ideas you had ;)
I did work on my own in 2013 but i lost some and other Problems with having Multiple Ways to Branch Certain Aspects that i could not CHOOSE which i prefer and which would cause less Conflict so i Abandoned them.
It was TWO Parallel Prequel Paths that would JOIN by Virtue of something latter but to be fair it was Quite a LOT to do with A.I so maybe would NOT have been everyone's Cup of Tea!
Thats Certainly True ;)
The Franchise and Especially the Prequels do go through a Constant Process of Change...
IF we ever got a Continuation then it is LIKELY that it would be Quite Different to the Plans/Ideas that would have been Floating around the Mind of Ridley Scott in 2017-2018 who knows HOW MUCH of those Ideas would Survive as to WHEN and IF we get a Continuation.
The Longer its Left the Less Likely we would see it about David or having Ridley Scotts input.
Just HOPE we dont get a Lazy Reboot of the Prequels or that they were just Cryo-Sleep Nightmares.
Lol! It's like some Twilight Zone episode with the most ironic twist ending possible.
@Blackwinter-witch
Welcome Back ;)
" I have begun work on a crossover between Alien and a human A.U. of The Octonauts... Please just trust me, it's going to be awesome"
Ha Ha Love it ;)
Yeah! And then when it's least expected...POW! We'll spring up out of the darkness and take everyone by surprise!
(Also, I'm getting some Weyland-Yutani polos to wear to work, because I realized that the Weyland-Yutani logo is remarkably close to my school's logo, and if I get it in the school color I don't think anyone will notice. ...Wish me luck lol)
I think its a Interesting Point as there is a LOT of Effort in Raising Children and Especially Teenage Years ;)
I think you run a Risk with 20 Year Olds though... some may be willing for Change... but they could still have Embedded into them Pre-existing Ideas, Knowledge and Ways.
Maybe you could get them to BUY into your Cult and Ways... maybe with Offering some Good Rewards... but then you would also have to RULE with a IRON FIST to those who STEP out of Line.
But you could Suggest that to a Degree that Religion is Born out of Similar.
I think a Small Number would be worth the Risk, as long as you have the Children and say Embryo's at hand in case this does not go to PLAN!
Free-Will and Knowledge are TWO of the Biggest Themes at Play in the Prequels. They also Play a Great Role in a Lot of Mythos and Religion.
If things have gone back to normal by the time the sequel comes out, I'm going to take the day off of work and go see it in the theater!
@Blackwinter-witch it is so amazingly lovely to see you again! It really is a feeling like returning home, isn't it?
"...possibly as a deliberate action to spare Hudson even that slight harm."
You know what, I love this theory. I think you're right, Bishop was sure to move his own hand in such a way that it would get nicked instead of Hudson's.
(Looking forward to your latest work!!!! Also, I made some edits to one of my old stories and posted it on AO3, but maybe I should go back to the original post here, and apply the edits as well.
...Also, as I'm a mom now and therefore a captive audience to children's media, I have begun work on a crossover between Alien and a human A.U. of The Octonauts... Please just trust me, it's going to be awesome.)
"Man, imagine someone freezing themselves in like, 1999 or something, and then waking up to the mess we have in 2020 lol"
Ha Ha Imagine....
Be like "What? Check this Guy Jeez! put me into Cryo-sleep and wake me up in 20 Years"
I trust Marvel about as far as I can throw a fully-laden refinery barge whilst standing on a Gravitar.
This little outpost in the Outer Veil is where folks (all of us) keep the flame of the ALIEN franchise alive.
This past ALIEN DAY was a disappointment...but that just means we go into Hibernation, prowl around here, spin our own resin and thoughts while we Wait in the darkness we all find so comforting.
Patience...is a quality ALIEN fans have in abundance. We can Wait, and in time, we'll have something new to drool over and happily screech about. :D
Beautiful work, I hope to see more from this artist and the people he works with!!
For better or worse, I am continuing on my ideas and approach with the ALIEN and it's origins, as well as exploring more about the Engineers (based on what little we do know about them).
That said, it's a BIG Galaxy out there, many mysteries and things that't challenge Humanity's understanding of itself, it's place in the grand scheme, and survival.
I have plans that will address the origins of The ALIEN as well as the Purpose and reason behind the Juggernaut on LV-426. If I'm lucky, hopefully some of you in the fanbase will appreciate this direction and 'backstory'.
For those of you who are not fans of David, rest assured that it has absolutely nothing to do with David at all.
There's also other questions about the creations of man, and how they will change things in the galaxy--as well as possibly challenge the existence of their 'Parents'...or perhaps not, there's always strange ways things can go after all.
The Title and Belt of 'Perfect Organism' is up for grabs, ladies and gentlemen, the galactic stage is being set, the lights are coming down.
There can be only one winner in this bout.
The only true Constant is that which all other Perceptual Constants is subject to:
Change.
