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Certainly this is another option i maybe could have mentioned, i also think any Flaws with a CGI Overlay can be passed off, because David is Artificial After-all.

Over time his Skin could have gained some GLOSS which could explain away any imperfections in CGI replicating a Exact Human likeness...  because this is something that COSTS a lot of Money to do.

Even IF we go for a Davids World First (i think Fans wont be interested in unless it had some Xenomorph Elements).

David could introduce his Humanoids the Star Children to incoming Humans from Earth, he could have some Dialect about the Engineers.  

Where he could state that what he is attempting and achieved is to better his Creator and our Would be Gods, he could go on about how our Creators the Engineers had created a In-superior being in Mankind, and how  Mankind had Surpassed their own Creators by Creating a More Superior being in their likeness which is HIM (David).  HE could then go on and say that he has taken the Engineers Secrets of Creation and Created a FAR more Superior Humanoid Species...

Then he could also say that the Engineers Greatest Creation was the Xenomorph, which they then tried to Banish, as they could not Control it... and then David could BOAST that he has YET AGAIN, bested our Creators by Reproducing his own Evolved Xenomorph.

This would indicate the Xenomorph on LV-426 is NOT one of Davids Creations... it would FIT with the Prometheus Themes, of the Pursuit of Perfection/Creation and Evolution.

He could then claim that he has his Wolf that is superior to the Engineers Version, he has his Lambs that are superior to the Engineers Version (Mankind) but he is NOT Finished, and that he has yet to reveal his MASTERPIECE.

Where he can then have a AMALGAMATION of his Humans MK2  and Xenomorph MK2 to make the Ultimate Hybrid.

A Hybrid that would maybe have some traits of the Above HR Giger work, could be his latest eventual Creation and ONE that could lead to the Hubris as they Rebel against David.

You could go Further by when the Engineers discover these beings that David had Created, his Masterpiece... maybe they could BOW down in Worship as they could see Davids HYBRID as the Reincarnation of the Engineers Masters and Source of their Bio-Mechanical Technology/Black Goo.

So we kind of come FULL CIRCLE.

"It's all about time. No time before Nostromo accident."

I can now comment more on you point.... If we have the Prequels that will be a  A-Z  with A being Prometheus and Z being Alien.  We have this Approx 30 year Period from when the Prometheus set off on its Voyage to Discover our Origins to when the Nostromo Crew Discover the Horrors on the Derelict.

At Present we are in the Year 2105 and so nearly 45% through that Time-Line of Events...  Leaving us 17 years until the Derelict is Discovered, thats not a lot of time to cover in TWO movies what Events will Lead to WHEN/HOW/WHY the Derelict lands on LV-426.

Even less if we do consider that FIRST we have to have the Covenant and David arrive at Origae-6, which would be the Year 2112 which takes us a little over 2/3rds of that Time-Line.  And would leave us with about 10 years before we have the Nostromo Turn up at LV-426

Thats not a lot of time to cover TWO movies... and certainly if the Next One will be based around David and what World/Kingdom he would Build/Create...  a Movie that has a HIGH % about this Plot would not Engage as many ALIEN Fans as i think they would like,  they would have to introduce a % of ALIEN related Aesthetic/Elements which then by trying to have a Balance you could be left with NOT having enough Screen Time to do either Element Justice, which we can see had been a Problem with Alien Covenant.  But if they make it mainly about Davids World, then Set-Up the Next movie we would get a more ALIENY Sequel, then we have the case of would Fans NOT be interested and if Box Office of Davids World is NOT Good then would they risk another Sequel?

So i understand the idea you present, would allow a Movie about Davids World and Creation to not have to Force Itself to March Towards Alien, and fit things within a 10 Year Time Restraint..

Having Davids Journey go off on a different Tangent that Does-Not connect Directly to ALIEN...  while it would lift some Restraints to what kind of Story/World this could give us.

Alien Covenant has been set up as a ALIEN Prequel and so it would be expected that events would have to Literally Connect to ALIEN.    If say they took the route your propose and we have what ALIEN: Elysium which would be about Davids World.... then by Virtue of the ALIEN name the Fans would expect some Xenomorph Related stuff, which could be catered for by giving us Davids Xenomorph at some point and other Hybrids...  we could have another Human Ship arrive or/and Engineers and have this take place say in the year 2120-2130

But we would have to conclude IF this connects to ALIEN which in such a case it would NOT, and so we would need clues to suggest that Davids Xenomorphs Cant/Dont end up on the Derelict.

But then we are still going to have some Fans who thought that a ALIEN Prequel would eventually show or inform us HOW/WHEN those Eggs got onto the Derelict and so they would expect a ALIEN Prequel.

Which i guess would be best done if Weyland Yutani sends another Ship to LV-223 or Planet 4, where they can then introduce some Clues that would Indicate the Xenomorphs Origins to be Older than the Re-Creation that David had done on Planet 4.

And this to a degree is what i had indicated in a early post, but i was thinking that a Alien Covenants Sequel acts as a Bridge to Span Off to TWO Movies... one that would cover the Engineers/Creation, another that would give more clues to ALIEN.

But when i come to think about it... using Alien Covenant as the Bridge/Fork in the Road could work out better... and so indeed go off to ONE Path that is Davids World, that will eventually introduce some more Alieny Elements....  but then have another Movie where the Company go to LV-223 or Planet 4 that can then either show us clues that the Xenomorph was already around... and be a much more ALIENY movie.

If they go to Planet 4, they could encounter Davids Xenomorph, and when Engineers Return maybe we could get some Clues that they had created the First Bio-Mechanical Version or Encountered it in the past..

Or this Movie could Literally connect to ALIEN by Virtue of Engineers take Davids Xenomorph and Evolve it to the Bio-Mechanical Version and set up a Direct Chain of Events that LINK to Alien.

I actually think this could be the Direction that is BEST to take..

They would have to do the Parallel Movie First (one that goes to LV-223 or Planet 4) and does-not follow David and the Covenant.   If this movie introduces the Engineers in a way thats Interesting to Most Fans, and we are then informed that the other STORY about David would also introduce the Engineers, then it would maybe get Fans who would not be happy to see a Davids Movie to be on board, because they have got a more Alieny Prequel that is NOT about David or he creates the Xenomorph.

If this more Alieny/Aliens like Sequel to Alien Covenant does-not do well, then it would allow Disney to then look at the Franchise and THINK! so maybe RS was right... and then take the other Sequel to Alien Covenant (Davids World) and try something different.

I think such a IDEA would be the Best Route to take... i know its not the route RS may have wanted.. but lets be FRANK!  i dont think he wanted to go the Literal Prequel Route anyway... and at least this way, his Davids World Movie would no longer have to connect to ALIEN at all. And so he can explore more of what he wanted to do.

This could be a WIN/WIN.

If they took this route and BOTH movies Bombed, then Disney would be left with maybe ONE option and that would be a Blomkamp Alien 5 bring back the Gang! and if this Bombed... then i think it would be CURTAINS for the Franchise Theatrically.

I can see what you mean by TIME...

What i was referring to with BALANCE is that the Alien Franchise is expected to Maintain some Element of the ALIEN Movie, when people are asked about ALIEN those that do know your on about that 1979 Movie or even 1986 Aliens, will mostly associate the Franchise with the Xenomorph, and second to that Ripley/Miss Weaver they are the Iconic Elements most people remember (i am not just talking Alien Fanbase here).

The other Aspect that was ALIEN in terms of the First Movie was the Very Ship, its Pilot that the Dreaded Egg Cargo was Discovered on.

Prometheus had toned down the Aesthetic of the Derelict, we could see a connection via the Engineers Architecture and Technology but it appeared to be more Mechanical...   The Larger Difference was that a ALIEN Prequel (which a lot of people saw the movie as) simply DID-NOT have much Xenomorph like Aesthetic, the Monsters had a bit of the DNA but it was not enough for some, but it was fine for others.

There was a lot of Vague Clues and References, but for some they was just too ambiguous.  Not everyone could clearly see that this Place these Engineers were found (LV-223) that had the Aesthetic of the Space Jockey/Derelict to a degree.. for some Fans the Xenomorph like DNA in the Monsters (Hammerpede, Mutant, Fifield and the Trilobite/Deacon) was not quite enough, certainly as far as giving them a connection to HOW the Xenomorph came to be.

I lacked that Balance over Needing a little more Xeno DNA/Clues, it could have done with some Alieny Encounters, as the Hammerpede Attack, Fifield were simply not enough.

HOWEVER... you could see that ALIEN connection as far as the Aesthetic, maybe it was not Strong Enough for some but there was a Element that this was a ALIEN Movie.

If we take Alien Covenant.... it had further toned down the Aesthetic that we saw from ALIEN, we had a few Glimpses of it only as far as the Bombardment Scene (Engineer Ships) but the rest of the Architecture lacked that ALIEN look from the First Movie..

What Alien Covenant did have was more Alieny Monsters and clues to the Xenomorph Origins, by that Davids Workshop Scenes, and Dialect showed us in a less ambiguous way about what Davids Experiments were about, as opposed to the Vague Clues in Prometheus as far as the Engineers Experiments.

The Neomorph and Xenomorphs brought us very much Alien Monster Encounters that maybe some fans expected in the First Movie..

What i am saying is that Alien Covenant while it had the Alieny Monsters and less ambiguity to how they came to be, it lacked the Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic to the Engineers City that was expected, aside from the Engineers Ships... yet with LV-223 we got this Architectural Aesthetic that was similar to ALIEN

Prometheus had this Aesthetic but lacked the Alieny Monsters of Alien Covenant and so if they had more of a Balance, say Prometheus had the Neomorph Monsters/Screen Time..   And Less Ambiguous Clues to the Xenomorph connection, then this would have helped Prometheus (but the Characters etc would still have needed Improving).

If Alien Covenant had shown a bit more of a LV-223 Aesthetic to the City, then it would have had more of a ALIEN Feel...   Take Away Davids Experiments, the Neomorph and Xenomorph and Alien Covenant would not have that ALIEN Balance.

So what i am saying is that a ALIEN Prequel, that would contain NO Engineer Technology/Aesthetic until a Incoming Ship in the Final Act, and has NO Monsters that have any Xenomorph DNA...  would appear to be a Movie that would bear NO resemblance of a ALIEN movie to most fans.

But these can come in the 3rd Act... however i feel if the Movie which is a Alien Prequel would be about David creating his own Humanoids to Rule Over, who live in a Village that is very Middle Aged (Wooden) and so kind of his own Amish Village of Genetically Altered Humans who see David as God/Creator...  i just think a majority of Fans would NOT be so happy with this Plot...

Expectation would be mainly about HOW/WHEN does David Produce more Xenomorphs or Similar and when does another Human Ship or Engineers arrive were we would see more of a AVP like Action Plot (replace Predators with Engineers).

Because the Majority of such a Plot like this, that would not be about Xenomorphs, or carry any Aesthetic, would appear to NOT be a Alien Movie and a bit of a Distraction... so they need a Balance...

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This article has over 30k reads in less than 24 hrs, there should be more votes, I suppose.

This the best thing on the internet all year! Well done!

This is looking good but I worry only about 100 people have voted including myself.

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hey buddy -

thanks for the comments again and the feedback, good criticism is what i need so any and all plot hole you can find feel free to flesh them out . hopefully that will help make a much more concise story. however, i dont recall saying it was 1000 years old , im generalizing there was around a hundred years gap between the events of the end of this story and the start of Alien.. again something which needs working out in detail.. still all very much a work in progress. also, it could be written in that the engineers returning to planet 4 were responsible for looking after it and had a personal interest in its growth.. it could also be written in the original engineer used to create the population of planet 4 was one of our lead engineers descendants? who knows.. also David has run off with xeno tech.. im pretty sure the engineers wouldn't want that getting out so it would be a perfect reason for them to want to find out 'who did it.

as for marines being conveniently in deep space.. well you think that a huge multi national military complex with a deep interest in space would have various vessels training new marines from time to time so it does make sense if you think about it. the time they spend out there in or out of hypersleep can evolve or change as the parts and dialogue start to evolve.

you've given me some good things to think about though so thanks for the cool feedback :)

DK i'm glad you liked the track thanks!

Alien franchise wins an online survey made by Sciencefiction.com after the announcement that Disney will continue several Fox franchises.

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I hope they don't take too much time between the Alien films.. Time flies... 7 years ago Prometheus, 2 years ago Alien Covenant...

SWEET! I'm exticed about it and the more Maze Runner movies. I thought the third one was the last one but nope.

OT- Sleeper Simulant is pretty brutal.

Great news! and about bloody time. Good to see things are no longer dead in the water.

No. It is not about balance or xenomorphs. It's all about time. No time before Nostromo accident. But there is time before Aliens. Put third (and four) David's films parallel Alien story before 2179, or after this year and we have standalone world with its own history and mystery!

Diesektor 

But don't be carried away now, I have some real issues now.

1. You say that Planet 4 was only 1000 year old Engineer seeded world, not Paradise as in the home of the Gods. If so, why the 4 member crew get so pissed at the lose of a thing that the did for more time than humanity existed? And why do they rush to find David, why not consult with the Elders (or military superiors) first? How Convenient!

2. So a bunch of military types just happen to be on an exercise 7 years in hyper-sleep away from Earth just five years the first colonization ship should have reached the site and never reported back. How Convenient! 

Certainly Leto...

This is the Pickle we Find ourselves in because it appeared that Prometheus 2 was going to GO OFF and do its own separate thing and STEER Away from Alien.

Maybe RS has intended with the sequel to allow it to be a movie that can Bridge a Gap and OFFER TWO Directions, a Third Alien Prequel that takes us to the Back Door of ALIEN and another Sequel that could cover the Engineers and Creation on a different Tangent.

They have to find the Balance....  if the Next Movie is too much about David and his World and Creations and if these LACK any real Xenomorph/Alieny look about them... then i think it could Disappoint some Alien Fans who then may not be interested in another Prequel even if it would be more Direct Set-Up to ALIEN.

We can assume Davids Agenda has to be Create Xenomorph and Unleash it on Earth... but if this was the case, it would make more sense for him to head to LV-223, or stay on Planet 4.  As opposed to going to Origae-6

I think we have to look at the Multiple Layers here, and so we could see David take a similar stance to the Engineers...

If we assume the Engineers Create Life for a Benevolent Reason...  you would find it Logical that they can Create Something Else to PROTECT them from other Races or Unruly Creations..

So if David intends to Create his Own Star Children, he would be wise to also have a Large Number of Xenomorph Eggs that he can use to PROTECT his World/Creation, but also to PUNISH it should they Rebel and become Unruly.

Its getting the Balancing Act that will attract and please the most Fans... this is up to Disney to Gauge this... FOX felt that a Prometheus 2 should have gone the route of Alien Covenant and maybe that was a Error of Judgement by them.

In Hindsight Prometheus should have been less Ambiguous with the Xenomorph Origin Clues, and it should have had more Alieny Action like Scenes... so Fans could see more clearly that the Engineers and LV-223 are connected to the Xenomorph.

This would have allowed a Prometheus 2 to Steer Away from ALIEN and Xenomorphs, while giving Fans more Answers and allowed for a ALIEN movie about Xenomorphs to come out that does-not have to worry about stepping on the toes of anything Prometheus or its Sequel would cover.

Well we can indeed assume this to be the case from what we had seen in ALIEN COVENANT.

Ridley Scotts comments seem to point to something different... and it would not be about Xenomorphs... (this does-not rule out any appearance or development of Eggs). He said the next movie would be more about AI in which case we cant assume thats just about him or Robots..

Now he could create a variant of the Xenomorph, that would also be a AI... just as the Xenomorph is.

I have said this a number of times, now they have gone the ALIEN Prefix Prequel route the Expectation is there for there to be some Xenomorphs and certainly Set-Up a event that drives us ONE movie perhaps from ALIEN, certainly a movie that would have to be more ALIENY... otherwise i think a lack of ALIEN Aesthetic and No Xenomorphs would appear to NOT be a ALIEN Movie, not what some fans would expect and could be a Distraction...  They have to find the Right Balance.

I think Disney are going to assess what they think is needed in a sequel IF they continue, and i am sure they would take on board more Fans Disappointments, rather than Carry on with what Ridley Scott wanted to do.... unless they feel what he wants would be what the Fans would want and PAY to see.

Maybe there has to be some Compromise?

But ignoring what Ridley Scott had said... going by Alien Covenant and the Advent Video, then it does seem to suggest David has ONE Agenda on his Mind.

Perfect and Multiply his Xenomorphs so he can Conquer the Galaxy with them.

I think this was the Plan with Alien Covenant, Ridley Scott had mentioned we are NOT QUITE there yet, as far as our Bio-Mechanical Xenomorph....  we can all Guess what that means.

Alien Covenant had toned down a lot of the Bio-Mechanical Aesthetic, i think this is one area of disappointment as LV-223 certainly had that Aesthetic.. while a bit more on the Mechanical Side.

So we have to assume IF the Space Jockey/Derelict are related/connected to the Engineers/Juggernauts then there is a Aesthetic Connection and so we have to ask WHY for the most part was this absent on Planet 4

Prior to the Plot Turn in Alien Covenant (Xenomorph was created by David) we could see in Prometheus there was a shared connection between LV-223, the Engineers Technology and the Xenomorph.

So i think you have to go back and introduce that Bio-Mechanical Look, it would be nice to see it on some World, but i think we have to look at the FACT the Engineers possessed similar, so its a case of WHERE they use/keep and create this Technology or WHERE did they obtain it from.

If this is via another Layer of Creation, or another Race or Element, then i think this could be a route to certainly explore and get us back to something more ALIENY because the Eggs were not the only VERY ALIEN part of that Derelict Ship.

also with regards to how the engineers find out where David went i do think Walter could play a good role in this. since reading the comments I've had a couple of good ideas on how that could be established and more interesting twist / fight towards the end. Leave it with me and ill re upload the new version soon!

by the way if any of you are interested im in a heavy metal band that writes our own themes bases in the alien universe! you can check out our music via www.diezektor.com 

Hey guys thank you for all the wonderful comments , and thanks more so for spotting the spelling mistake - the devils in the details isn't it.. ill change that and re upload ! should say laboratory not lavatory lol 

also with regards to Walter i had some scenes with him however i felt something like that could be established more later down the line , also it could be a huge surprise towards the end. all of this is subject to change, who knows where it could go!

Ill be working on the scenes more as time goes by, i wondering how much of the next film will potentially have any similarities to this as logic dictates it should move in some way to my idea, well see any way!

but again thanks so much for the feedback, id though this had gone under the radar tbh! 

kind Regards Luke 

If Fox/Disney get away from direct prequel of Alien... And if they want to create the David's world and his Star Childrens, they should put they story as parallel arc of Alien/Aliens. And third film sets a plot after Aliens. This give a time for David experiments, civilization, Star Childrens and many another things. Just disconnect prequels from Alien plot.

David said what he doesn't give a second chance for humans. But with Enhanced humans we have a second chance.

I think - David will be use the colonists in his experiments with Aliens. And Xenomorphs (we also knew it from Covenant) are priority one for David. This is what David wants. Xenomorphs will rule the universe. Not enhanced humans - they role be an incubators for Aliens. And maybe spread xenomorphs throughout the universe.

I think, the main thing - return to biomechanical aesthetic. No stone age and no wooden villages in David's world. No Earth plants.

Disney got my trust with Star Wars classic aesthetic. And I'm sure - they go back to biomechanic.

I think in context to seeing David again...  It really is a case of maybe he has to play a lesser Role as his ARC has upset more Fans than those who wish to see what they deem a Mad Robot continue with his Conquest.

I think a Massive Problem could come from HOW LONG before they make a continuation... because its a case of do we look at a say David Android who has been around for Decades, prior to his First Likeness...

And then HOW he would AGE by 10-15 years by the time we get another Movie!

I think there could be a FEW work around's..

I think its SAFE to assume Fassbender will not be coming back to play a ONE-HANDED Robot!  And so having SPARE parts for Walter could be Used! or go a Step Further by having a Spare Walter Body or Build One, and have David Transfer his AI/Soul into it!

The Walter Model did look to be somewhat Organic to a degree..  which opens up the Following!

1) If Walter Model are a kind of Synthetic Construct (Part Organic/Synthetic) then could he become Infected/Evolved with the Black Goo?  We dont have to go to the Extreme that we saw with Synthetic Construct ELDEN from the Fire and Stone Comics.

But we could allow for David to change his Appearance/Skin texture and color which can mask the Age Difference of Fassbender.

2) Can a Synthetic Construct Age... so they Fit in more with Human Kind?  And they can always be given a New SKIN-JOB if they wish to revert back to the Default Mid 30's looking Human likeness.

3) Could David Grow so much Bitterness to Mankind and being Cursed with their Likeness, that he would alter his appearance and remove his Skin-Job?

4) Does a incoming Human Ship have a New Walter Model that has a different appearance, that looks more Older and Maybe with a Beard?   Which then David could Transfer his AI/Soul into?

5) Does such a incoming Human Ship have a different Synthetic and David Transfers his Soul into that and thus we use a Different Actor?

6) Finally does David Create a Race/Being that he finds a way to Transfer his AI/Soul into? or does so to a Engineer's Body?

so yeah there are ways to continue with David, in-spite of how much older Micheal Fassbender gets or even if he would not want to reprise his Role!  If Fassbender chooses to not want to be a part of another movie..

Then we introduce a Damaged David like we saw with Bishop in Alien 3 and then have someone HELP or the Synthetic/Being he will Transfer his Soul into be compliant with Davids wishes.

EDIT:

I will add its more likely that they would just use Oversight, and Nitpick on such Details..

They could have it down to David not having any Maintenance and some Process or Supplement taken/applied Externally or Internally is what Maintains the Synthetic Skin, and without such the Skin can Degrade/Age....

This would be more difficult to explain with a Walter Model who we can assume is more Advanced to the point of being able to have some Self-Maintenance....   some Regenerative Properties.

But we also see this with David (the healing of the Wound in his Neck) and in other drafts he was supposed to be wounded in the Eye and it Regenerates.  So you would expect their SKIN to maintain its Youthful Look that it was when they came off the Factory Assembly Line.

YES! Excellent news! 

@ignorantGuy

Ha Ha ;)  The Source of the Black Goo... maybe too many Oreo's and Stout!

Regarding the Idea.. i will come back at a latter point once people have read it more... I think its something that would maybe suit a Action Comic or Basis of a Game...

Needs Fleshing out with Characters, but this is a work in Progress... i think its maybe a little Too Heavy on the Xenomorph Side!  But thats just my opinion.

I think expanding it over TWO Movies could work better.

But i applaud the effort.

I think back to your idea....

Then it could be something to be explored as far as some ROGUE World....  we have Rogue Planets in our Galaxy, Planets that Formed on the Outer Rim of their Systems that eventually the Gravity Pull of their Star is no-longer enough to hold them within their System...

Or they are pushed away during a Chaotic Start to their Solar System or a Chaotic Event in their Solar System... for example the Collapse of a Red Dwarf that has a Planet at the very FAR Reaches of its Solar System could push the said Planet out into Deep Space and becomes a Rogue Planet.

For a Rogue Planet that has the ability to support Life, when it becomes a Rogue Wandering Planet without a SUN of its own... then Life on that World would Change!

You can ponder how would LIFE adapt to these changes, would it DIE-OUT or develop into something NEW and adapting itself... becoming a SURVIVOR.

If so what would this Life be like?  And what would happen if another Species came across said Adaptive Life-Form? 

You could certainly see the Creator Race of Engineers find some of the Aspects of such a Creatures Survival as Interesting and Traits they deem are worthy of Experimenting with and trying to pass these onto the kinds of LIFE they would Create...  Maybe with Dire Consequences?

However i do suspect that your Rogue World idea revolves around some World that is Intelligently Controlled.. maybe even Artificially Created or Adapted and so NOT a World that is Wandering Aimlessly across Space.

This is something that cant be ruled out, if we have a Species that are many Millions of Years Old... we also have to Ponder are there Species in the Galaxy that are FAR FAR ahead of the Engineers and their Technology.. or maybe even the Source of the Engineers Technology?

I really can't image an "Insane lavatory" with a table in it? Does David and the xenoes take dumps on it? Or are the toilet seats just egg holders? Or does black goo come from the tap?

"For Peter Weyland I am afraid it is too late"

I think yeah it would be difficult to bring us a Peter Weyland from 2023, but looking at the Time-Line that Prometheus introduced (which has been changed somewhat by Alien Covenant) it would appear that a lot of the Building Better Worlds Aspect and Space Exploration really kicked off in the 2050's and on wards.

So i think having a Peter Weyland involved at a time when he would be in his Mid 50's or Mid 60's could be a route to explore.

Regarding David... i think it would be interesting to see the Character again... but i feel a lot of Fans are just not that interested....    I think it could be a case of we come across a Dis-activated/Damaged David.   Maybe introduce another Walter for a different ARC!   This New Walter could be Modeled on a Older Looking Human Male in their 40's

Because the Longer any Sequel to Alien Covenant takes, the older Fassbender will be and be less likely to pull off being a 35 year old looking Human Android.  I agree that the Prequels need a Conclusion.

But i also think the Franchise can expand beyond anything related to the Engineers/Xenomorph and LV-223/426 and Planet 4.

I think this is Good News on ONE Hand, but maybe wont be the News that some would have hoped.

It depends on what Disney Deem is worthy to continue within the Franchise.... and so we cant ASSUME we are going to get a Continuation of the Prequels or anything related to Ridley Scotts Direction.  However who knows, we had rumors that Ridley Scott is working on a ALIEN Project, and Emma Watts seemed to be behind the Direction that Ridley Scott wants which is to FINISH the Prequels and to not have any TV Series at Present.

She had said the Franchise was Not Finished and that its a case of finding the RIGHT STORY, and it seemed she indicated that you cant keep going back to the same Tropes/Formula that we saw in the ALIEN Franchise.

But i am concerned that THIS is exactly what Disney wants to see in the Franchise.   The ALIEN Franchise would be expected to be about the Xenomorph to some degree or another and i dont think they would want to STEER to far away from that...   Neomorph's, Deacon's, Trilobites and Spores are all loosely connected and i feel that  DISNEY would want to continue with at LEAST this level of connective tissue if not more Xenomorph Related.

So by NEW Movies maybe we could get a set of movies that are independent of ALIEN and PROMETHEUS but can have some links, but will NOT literally connect to a David's Story or a Ripley's Story.  Maybe we could get 2-3 Stand Alone Movies that are not connected/lead to each other so to speak.

They could open up the Franchise so we DONT just have the ARC/Plot that Follows that Fateful Day the Nostromo Crew arrived at LV-426... to the Hadleys Hope Colony being set up on the same World that housed the Derelict and its Cargo, to the Pursuit of Ripley as a Source for the Xenomorph after the Destruction of Hadleys Hope.

The ALIEN Franchise was about that Cargo on the Derelict, and what becomes of it to the point that the Company had tried to get a Queen from Ripley, and then Clone her 200 Years after.

We have to ASSUME they did this because there was NO other Source.... but the Prequels open up the Potential for other Sources of Xenomorph or Related Organisms... i would like to think that each AVENUE that is explored like this will conclude with the Destruction of any Specimens, resulting in the Company eventually having to pursue Ripley.

Likewise we have the Prometheus ARC/PLOT which follows David and how he has used the Secrets of the Engineers and Bio-Weapon Black Goo to Create the Xenomorph that we can ASSUME eventually ends up on the Derelict on LV-426.

But this still opens up a AVENUE to have a Movie or Movies set to explore routes connected/opened up by the Prequels but without actually being set following what David is doing at Present.  But again any such Avenues should conclude in a way that would show that NO-MORE Specimens are obtainable from this route... and hence the pursuit of Ripley.

So indeed their is Scope to have a ALIEN movie that is a Parallel Story that is Canon (No Alternative Universe) but i feel any such Movie must have some connective tissue to ALIEN and thus has to be more ALIENY than Prometheus.  Eventually such ALIENY movies that can also include the Engineers, may open up more fans to be willing to see further movies about the Engineers that Will-Not have any Connective Tissue/DNA to ALIEN, so even less so than Prometheus.... but we have to engage the Fans who are NOT SOLD on the Engineers with more ALIENY movies that can introduce the Engineers into the Fold.

I do fear HOWEVER... that NEW ALIEN movies could be Alternative Universe Variety, i am concerned they would also go with a Blomkamp Alien 3 Alternative and BRING BACK the Gang from Aliens.

I would like to see a continuation of the Prequels... i think we need a CONCLUSION or at least some Movie in the Aftermath of Origae-6 that will give us more clues to the Xenomorph Cargo on the Derelict's Origins.... OR show us evidence to show that Davids Creations Do-Not get onto the Derelict.

Because as Ridley Scott said, there is only so much Snarling and Chest Busting you can do, and i would also say there is only so much you can do with the RIPLEY Saga..  before we are back to the Drawing Board!

And i think the Space Jockey/Engineers are a Good Starting Point to Return to and Focus on in the FUTURE!

I have read it. Nice job!

It references everything from Prometheus to Aliens while also giving a hint about the SJ.

This is a gloss over but I don't want to tell spoilers. Members should read it imo.

I want to see David and the sequel to Covenant.  For Peter Weyland I am afraid it is too late, although it would have been nice to see David rebelled against him. After Peter Weyland died there is no one to match David.

Come on, guys, let Ridley Scott do this one more film in this franchise, then you can have the colonial marines shoot the xenomorph.

Another report from CinemaCon 2019 confirms that Alien footage was shown in a sizzle reel celebrating the big franchise from both Disney and Fox. Another report mentioned the footage was from Alien: Covenant. That's encouraging.

Below, the report from BleedingCool:

"The Disney presentation at CinemaCon kicked off with a video that had all of the Disney and Fox properties mashed together. It was a little surreal to see Alien and Frozen in the same sizzle reel but Disney was very thankful towards everyone at Fox for all of the hard work they have done. "

I will believe it when I see a teaser trailer from Disney. They didn't seem to give any kind of year, so I won't hold my breath.

Bring on Alien: The Play- at least that is something concrete with a Scott Free endorsement- IN WRITING.

Thanks for the added clarification daliens! Wonderful find!

THR confirms the news:

"Fox's Emma Watts came out to introduce Dark Phoenix, calling it the "perfect sendoff for our X-Men team." The Marvel mutants have been at Fox since 2000's X-Men movie, which is credited with launching the modern era of superhero films.

Watts also noted that Fox will be providing plenty of tentpoles for Disney, now that the former will no longer oversee the Marvel properties, as those will fall under Marvel Studios head Kevin Feige.

"We intend to do our part, and it is in that spirit that we will continue to create new stories,” she said, name-checking Kingsman, Alien, Planet of the Apes and Avatar."

That't the spirit!

Thank, Chris.

Fingers crossed.