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Vanilla-HollywoodPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!Oct 17, 2011
Hi,
Something that I feel there´s need to scrutinize is:
Seeing that the number of subscribers to this Prometheus-forum is
increasing for the last couple of weeks; so how can it be that it´s
always the same guys chatting w. each other and none of the new
members says anything?
Just a general remarks.
P.S.: 10/19/2011; 2am
I see, by now there are lots of others participating or introducing themselves
in the introduce-yourself-section. That´s cool;furtheron I hope ther´s still
somebody coming up to post his & her artworks to this forum .
Then, I´ll do , too.
ReplyPrometheus ForumCould A Prometheus Sequel Incorporate a Bladerunner Sequel?Oct 17, 2011
Enough with the hate for Alien: Resurrection already. Asking for forgiveness for referring to it is silly and just shows how unable people are to have a free thinking opinion about a movie sometimes. Wake up call, all 4 films have their flaws and their questionable motives, but It gets tiresome to hear all of the negativity towards the 4th film when it introduced a lot of interesting concepts and ideas. It was a stab at making a unique and interesting take on the universe and therefore had balls bigger than anybody beforehand (outside of Scott of course). I am in no way saying it is great but the opinions offered as asides and jeers get annoying. Sorry. Just speaking my mind :-)
ReplyPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 17, 2011
I'm sorry but who asked for Political discussion here to begin with? This is a forum about Alien and things associated with those films. If I wanted to hear toilet talk, boo hooing and whining about how Young White Males are being disrespected in the U.S, I'll go to a KKK Rally or maybe a GOP Convention.
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 17, 2011
Is it? or Isn't it? We were just getting to the answers...of why they will make the first gay sex androids, that service the Outer Rim colonies, white."
ReplyPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 17, 2011
"Ruhaniya ›
Posted 10/17/2011
Is it? or Isn't it? We were just getting to the answers...of why they will make the first gay sex androids, that service the Outer Rim colonies, white."
Right on. Haha
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumYour favourite graphic novelOct 17, 2011
Hands down & by leaps and bounds, it ain't even close....
Stephen King's: The Gunslinger!
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumCould the Space Jockey be...... Oh No it is!!!!! JarJar Binks!!!!!!Oct 17, 2011
For prometheus that can happen in a different way ... Scott is not obsessed with gadgets , audience , toys etc etc so is not that the risk ...however we can be disappointed by alot of things ( script , characters , tone ) and that will damage a bit the Alien experience .
ReplyZetaReticuliPrometheus ForumCould the Space Jockey be...... Oh No it is!!!!! JarJar Binks!!!!!!Oct 17, 2011
I really think Sir Ridley may have been mindful about the hardcore fans of the
original and he may come up with something totally ambiguous which could well tie in with the original (if we see the 'signs' and we want it to) while having it so tenuous as to simultaneously leave it untainted.
I cannot see him being disrespectful to the fans and the mystique of his own 'baby'.
Fear not Blazer1411, it'll be alright on the night.
ReplyMr.JPrometheus ForumCould the Space Jockey be...... Oh No it is!!!!! JarJar Binks!!!!!!Oct 17, 2011
Let's remember too, that Scott used very little CGI and build all his sets full size unlike some directors who would just use a green screen...I think Scott has went back to his roots and old fashioned film making...depsite the 3D but I think will make very good use of the 3D and the huge sets as we saw....we will not be disappointed...
ReplyFrantzPrometheus Forumpg-13 or R Rated...Oct 16, 2011
The question i ask myself is .... Alien in your countries is a PG 13 or an R ? If its PG-13 we can be assured that a masterpiece can be done with a PG 13 on it :)
ReplySpartacusPrometheus Forumpg-13 or R Rated...Oct 16, 2011
I agree, but seriously what it really really means is that any offensive language or scenes containing blood and gore will be edited out, which 100% sucks the life out any plausibility or credibility this film will have at all in light of the other 4.
The situation calls for a complete FREE PASS and if Scott wants to release a film so violent and Bloody it makes people run out of the theater screaming, it should be Rated X, as ROBOCOP was originally before the studios made Verhooven cut it, and this is a Fact...58 frikkin' times, before they allowed it to run as a"R" rated film.
Scott should be given the Green Light to put as much Language. blood. gore, sex etc etc etc in this thing and have it go out as an "R" rated film.
Now, the studios do not care about what is right, they have ONE AGENDA only, which is maximize the profits and the way they typically do this is watering down films below the "R" level. This is a case, where should they do that, and should the cuts involved by detailed in any way, you can call this film a failure right now.
You cannot water down a Ridley Scott film of this importance, you just cannot, it goes far beyond the money as well, it goes, as I was saying to the very credibility of the entire franchise. IF they make the cuts and anybody who is a long time XENOMORPH RESPECTING fan goes and is disapointed because of it, word is going to spread like a disease and faster than a Rabbit gets You Know What F. Murray Abraham said in Scarface.
And this entire project will die a slow and very painful death.
Once again, If I am Scott, I will not compromise my integrity for even one IOTA for "The Suits"
As far as I am considered Scott trumps every one of them, and if they don't like it..TOO BAD for the studios, he could release this film using his own money and tell them a la "Ripley" @ the end of "ALIENS" to... "Get Away From Me You Biaatches"...lol.
Just my opinion, but as you can see I am emphatic about it.
I want as much blood and gore and language and raw truth and of what Ridley "Truly intended" to be left in this film when we see it as possible!!!
I don't want to wait a year for some collectors Quintology that trys to tell me...
"Here is the "Prometheus" version Scott Truly intended for me to see to begin with"
ReplyFrantzPrometheus Forumpg-13 or R Rated...Oct 16, 2011
the problem is that they gave R ratings to family movies like
The gladiator ( scott was there )
Terminator II ( come on ... )
300 ( please ... )
Pretty Woman ( lol )
Rain man ( muahahaha )
The matrix reloaded ( maybe because was so lame )
its true that teenagers are the fundaments of every big success like titanic , avatar , inception etc etc but i dont think prometheus should fall in this category ..and if the Gladiator was already a success with an R rating why not prometheus then ?
ReplyApolloPrometheus Forumpg-13 or R Rated...Oct 16, 2011
It has to be an 'r' rated movie , even if they met halfway and agreed on a 15 rating that would not be so bad , fook it if they make it pg 13 then the space jockeys will most likely be the teletubbiers, jesus.....why go from 'r' rated to pg 13, such a big gap between the two!!!!!! idiots money grabbing parasites
ReplyMentosPrometheus Forumpg-13 or R Rated...Oct 16, 2011
The unfortunate reality of the situation is that we'll probably see a PG-13 release.
PG-13 = available for viewing by a larger demographic of people = more money.
I hate to say it but I think that'll be the case. And we'll end up with a semi-skimmed sci-fi horror.
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!Oct 16, 2011
My Latest...seems it looks much better when viewed in it's original 1500 x 500 format as well...Just FYI...wish I could display it here like that.
"c'est la vie"
Hope ya like it anyways....
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/promespec.jpg[/img]
ReplyVanilla-HollywoodPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!Oct 16, 2011
@ Spartacus
I hate your `excuse du bout des lèvres´, above-
I´d throw her to the beasts or nourish her with cheese
till she bursts at the seams;
your cheesy moon is absolutely lovely stuff, though.
signed by Carter J. Burke[img]http://www.movievillains.com/images/carterburke.jpg[/img]
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!Oct 16, 2011
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Vanilla-Hollywood ›
Posted 10/16/2011
@ Spartacus
I hate your `excuse du bout des lèvres´, above-
I´d throw her to the beasts or nourish her with cheese
till she bursts at the seams; your cheesy moon is absolutely lovely stuff, though.
LMAO
Thanks very much for the most constructive critsism "VH"
It is much appreciated. and entertaining at the same time...lol...
"Top-Shelf"...w/cheese...gotcha...!
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumPost Your Prometheus Artwork!Oct 16, 2011
Biomechanic,
I love your new "quick little painting"...and the image you used in the Background is most "Gigeresque", think you may have even constructively bent/re-shaped one of his.
Excellent stuff man!!!
I LOVE that one.
Like I was saying it looks as if it was made by Giger himself, or someone he taught to paint.
...and...lol...just my imagination getting fired up by it all here but, the figure in the front looks like she/he's is dressed as a member of the Ugandan Bob Sled or some other Water board Team and is skiing as fast as she/he can away from certain death!!!
For me that right there is just undeniabley fantastic work man.
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumGiger DiscussionsOct 16, 2011
Excellent stuff. I'd say this craft is my favourite ever spaceship design. It is TOTALLY alien.
ReplySmillsoidPrometheus ForumGiger DiscussionsOct 16, 2011
This craft is my favourite ever design for an alien spaceship. It bears no resemblance to anything of human origin.
ReplyZetaReticuliPrometheus ForumUpdated Synopsis (Possible Spoilers)Oct 16, 2011
Thanks for that Theusprom. Sounds like GOOD stuff!! I think this is going
to be one hell of a film!!!!
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
I think Neurion is basically right , if i will play skyrim my alter ego will be a male because i want to feel myself in a different reality and of course be the hero of that "virtual " world . So is a bit the same with movies , action movies .
Btw i think is not a matter of society , of politically correct things ...is just that they want to try to be original ...when the script is very weak ( or not very original ) they try to make something to make it different , one is for example to put a bad ending , so they please "almost" a sector of viewers that will say that "the director had the balls to give a bleak ending " ...of course the movie suck anyway .
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Hey Frantz,
I’m gonna have to go and disagree with you in regard to societies agenda vs. artistic license in the media…at least in the United States. Perhaps things like male and female roles and political/societal correctness is different where you come from, but the current American media climate…goes something like this: The most hated creature in the media is the young, white/Caucasian male, Also known as White boy, Cracker, Haole (Howley) or Honky.
Why is this? How can this be?
I’ll tell you why. The USA is a great melting pot, filled with many races, ethnicities, religions, languages, sexual orientations. Etc. And it’s a relatively young country…a little over 200 years old. For many or most of those years, and for the most part, if a person was not a “white” or caucasian male…they were treated like garbage and or abused. So, as the years rolled by, the “Civil Rights Movements” gained momentum and the popular vote in the 1960s and 70s…all the way up to now…2011. In the U.S. media, it now fashionable to berate, ridicule, spoof, and even humiliate the image of the “young white male.”
Think about it! Think of the movies, television shows, commercials, magazines, etc…of today. Take a close look at who’s doing what…in the roles. You will find that most of the time… like 90-95% of the time, the role of the young white male is the villain, the asshole, the nerd, the thief, the drug addict, the dork, the gang member, the killer, the “BAD GUY”. Conversely, the roles played by “so called” minorities, or “special interest groups” i.e. Females, Blacks, Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc., are usually the “GOOD GUYS” or are at least in positions of benign power. If you don’t believe me…or have just never noticed… Check it out for yourself. I challenge you!
Perhaps all of this sounds a bit paranoid, and maybe it is. But no more paranoid than a black person might have felt in the 1940s, when he couldn’t get job because of his color… or a woman who didn’t have the right to vote because of her gender, in times past.
In my opinion, the U.S. media “machine” or industry…is controlled by Jewish-American producers and money. These Jewish producers identify more with American “minorities” and “special interest groups” than with “white males.” This is because they too were persecuted, starting with the Egyptians, the Romans, the Nazis, the Americans, and many others. Therefore, the media is used…as Jack Black in “School of Rock” would say, to “STICK IT TO THE MAN” at every possible convenience. Anyway, that’s why female characters are currently being written as these unrealistic, super-heroines. It’s to appease American women in general, who have historically been treated like shit…in real life and in the media. Otherwise, why else would we have Xena, Aeon Flux, Underworld, Lexx, Captain Janeway, Columbiana, Trinity, Neytiri, Vasquez, Chacon in Avatar, Veronika SALT, Lara Croft, Elizabeth Swan…“King of the Pirates”…and all the other recent Karate kickin’ ladies permeating the cinema these days. Very unrealistic! You know, I’ve been a Martial artist/ boxer for over 20 years, and in that time, I’ve reluctantly sparred with several women. Their choice. And I gotta tell ya…I went through them like shattered rice cakes. It annoys me when I see a 105 lb. Angelina Jolie smackin' around 220 lb. man...that's bogus and unbelievable.
Now, I don’t mean to come off as an ultra-conservative dick, which I’m not. Well, I not ultra- conservative anyway. HA! I have many Jewish, Black, Asian, Latino…and female friends. We speak very openly about these subjects, and they often agree with opinions, once I explain. Politically, I’m an independent who believes in liberty and justice for ALL.
Oh yeah….and…”ALIEN” KICKS ASS!!!
~Neurion…the white guy
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Neurion,
I disagree, Just FYI, with One thing you said....
This...
"On the other hand, if I compare it to truly excellent films of the genre, of which there are few (Carpenter’s THE THING, ALIEN), it’s quite weak and feeble…at best.
The setting/atmosphere was a bit stale…and “diet Coke.” Like its predecessor, there should have been more of a…pardon the pun, “Who Goes There?” sense of paranoia in the air".
I am not quit sure about what you meant by "Like It's predecessor", because it's predecessor, is John Carpenter's "The Thing".
The John Carpenter re-make of "The Thing" is one of if not, next to "The Exorcist; TVYNS", IMO, one of the top 5 "Sci-Fi/Horror Films" EVER made.
That remake by John Carpenter was in a word and simply..."REMARKABLE" !!!
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
also, and I am sure you meant no offense by it, I am Jewish, and I take GREAT offense to that having anything , at all, what so ever, to do... with how the Suits behave in their jobs in Hollywood.
YES, most of them ARE IN FACT JEWISH, but THAT, has nothing to do what so ever with the decisions they make.
I do however, agree completely with the "WHITE MALES" between the ages of 15 and 20 angle.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Neurion i agree on the exagerated research of the politically correct in everything ..but i think is quite passing away and is not a bad thing after all
im eagerly awaiting the new "the walking dead serie" and yes there is the afroamerican and the chinese guy BUT the main roles are all white guys ...
yesterday i was watching Pandorum ...well the hero is white and the chick too ..
take all the superhero movies ...are basically all white males ...
the hero of Avatar ..is white and so are the two of titanic ... and so on ...
is true that in every movie that have to put a character for the "minorities"...bur is really that bad thing ? Its useful to show kids that good or bad guys dont depend of the skin colour ,,,
and at the end take the prometheus cast ..there is a black and a oriental guy but all the cast is white caucasian and the probably main characters too ...so i will not complain ..and i will deeply support idris elba chances of be the hero :p
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Frantz,
I’m not sure what you mean by “exaggerated research.” Are you referring to the lengthy nature of my post…or what? In any case, I don’t think that the “political correctness” trend or agenda is “passing away” as you do. If anything…It’s getting more prevalent and ingrained into in to society. Maybe you would understand, if you lived in the U.S.. Maybe the problem is not as bad in Europe. In America…it’s only worsening. I object to revisionist history. I object to “brain washing.” I object to lies and hidden agendas. The Soviets pulled the same shit, selling communism to Russia and many other nations they assimilated like the fricken’ “Borg.”
Many people smoke marijuana to feel a certain way or alleviate their pain, others do cocaine, acid, morphine, or heroine. Still others “lick up” whatever the government or media feeds them…those people asleep. They’re…still “plugged into the Matrix”…they’re sheep…or worse…they’re slaves. I’m not one of those people…at least I try not to be.
Now, Black people…or should I say African-Americans, comprise approximately 12% of the U.S. population. If I were a visitor from another planet, I would assume that “People of Color” make up at least 50% of the U.S. population…if I simply watched television and films. The ratios are completely skewed. This is what I’m talking about. I agree that children should have good role models. But, not at the expense of reality and the truth.
As far as Idris Elba is concerned, I am a fan of his stuff. I’ve enjoyed his television and film work. However, the fact that he was cast in the role of “Heimdall” in the latest THOR film was, in my opinion, absolutely ridiculous…and EXACTLY what I’m referring to. In the THOR comic book, Heimdall was ironically sometimes called “The White God” or “The Whitest God.” Do you see where I’m going with this? Idris is a fine actor, but he had no business being cast as a mythological Norse god!…anymore than Anthony Hopkins would have, being cast as Martin Luther King. Un-F***ing-Belivable! C’mon Frantz…help me, help you! I’m tryin’ to pull you out of the Matrix! Just take red pill man…
~Neurion
P.S. I don’t mind being called “white.” Spectrally, white is the presence of all colors. But maybe I’ll start calling myself a European-American…since other ethnicities don’t use color designations in the U.S. any more. A rose, by any other name, still smells sweet. However, you can put perfume on a pig…and it’s still gonna be a pig.
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
exagerated research = the fact that in every cast there must be an afro american , a latino and an oriental one ... sometimes is quite ridicolous but is useful socially because that "minority" of the population will feel to be part of something . .... of course is also to appease a more wider audience !!
Regarding the matrix , the governament is the people ..they arent smarter or dumber than us ...what they try to do is to give every part of the population something to indentify with .... beware that the population always have to give the fault of their own problems ( because they drink , because they are fat , because they dont find a work , because they dont find a girl etc etc ) to the governament , to a minority , to a great cospiracy ...
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Spartacus,
You are correct, I meant no offense. However, I do personally believe that people’s ethnic, religious, cultural affiliations, sympathies, and or points of view…absolutely affect their professional behaviors. It’s part of who we are, and we don’t just leave it in the church, temple, mosque, ward, chapel, synagogue, or in our homes. If it’s part of us, and it’s going to affect our work…especially for artists. Human beings do not exist in a vacuum. Whether your Cecil B. Demille, John Ford, Steven Spielberg, David Geffen, Ridley Scott, or even Mel Gibson…especially Gibson, your views are going to influence your art and decisions. At least that’s my current opinion. To me, if one's culture and beliefs don't show up in their work...then they're not much of a member or believer. I hope I’m not coming off as offensive.
As far as the “predecessor” statement I made, I was merely trying to point out that the Carpenter “The Thing” did a great job of creating a certain paranoia in the outpost, and generated an uncomfortable feeling of distrust between the characters…a quality that the new film should’ve mimicked with greater skill. At least that was the point was attempting to make. I also agree with you ranking “JC’s THE THING” in the top 5 of horrors.
~Neurion
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
@Biomechanic
Thanks for the advice. You sound like a very open minded person.
~Neurion
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
@Spartacus,
You're absolutely right, I meant no offense.
~N
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
Dear Frantz,
You have a much more idealistic outlook and opinion regarding governments than I do. Personally, I wish you were right...and that I could agree with you. Unfortunately, I do not. Our shape-shifting Aliens, Graduate from law school, pass the Bar exam, and sometimes even hold office for 4 to 8 years. I like your world better than the one I believe we live in. Lets pray for that.
~Neurion
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
im not that idealistic ...i think that 80% of people are basically dumb ...so 80% of our governants are dumb ... plus add a 15% of criminals .
the difference is that i dont see difference ..they lie , they steal , the do good things no more and no less than us ...they arent a different breed .
ReplySpartacusPrometheus ForumIs it, or isn't it?Oct 16, 2011
If nothing else, lol, I truly respect your candidness Neurion.
At least you are a transparent hold nothing back No B.S. kind of guy.
You speak what's in your heart and I have great respect for that even when I do not agree with it.
Cheers.
~Sparty@the NFLParty
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