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Also, the special order required Ash to make sure the Alien return to Earth and the crew was expendable. Remember, Dallas makes the statement to Ripley that Ash has the final say on all things science because that is the way the company wants it. If Ash says no go on freezing him, then its a no go. Also, consider that the crew does not know that the face hugger is a one time thing. The face hugger could jump to another crew member. If the hugger had the strength to break through the visor of Kane's suit what is to stop it from breaking through the protective container of a stasis pod? Also Special Order 937 required ASH to make sure the Alien come back and the crew was expendable, Ash may not know at the time but freezing the creature or putting into stasis may in some way hurt the creature and go counter to his orders. The MOST interesting thing between the original novilization and script and the movie was that there was an element of oxygen supply that did not make it into the movie. For some reason the crew in the original script had only a certain amount of oxygen on board, this was totally taken out of the movie, and in one of the scripts I read the crew discussed the possibility of having to go into stasis because of a lack of air!

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I doubt it. I believe that the Alien cocoons humans for one of two purposes. 1. To feed off of later. 2. To hold in place, for an eventual facehugger to attach itself. I don't believe that there was any transference of DNA.

They do sound slightly different. But then again I never believed there even WAS a transmission. Think about it. According to special order 937 the Nostromo was rerouted to new coordinates to investigate and pick up the new life form. So the company already knew about the Alien, they knew were it was, all they needed was an excuse any excuse to send a crew to LV-426 to get it. Ahhh a loophole in the contract that states that transmission of an unknown alien origin must be investigated. There is your excuse. Next, the transmission, according to Ripley, is some "type" of warning. Then that's it, never ever hear of the transmission again until Aliens and the scene where she tells the company they home in on its beacon. Notice in that scene no one acknowledges what she says and they are all kinda stunned about it. My theory, the company planted some fake signal into Mother. Mother reroutes the ship awakens the crew and lies to Dallas about a fake signal. Interesting, Ash never checks out the signal except to say its the same repeating pattern. The crew now is forced to get the creature. They never find the source of the transmission on the ship, and 57 years later there is no discussion about a signal in Aliens. So what happened to the signal? Did it just shut off? No folks, there was no signal...it was all created by the company and part of the deception.

In one of the Alien scenes. I believe Lambert makes a reference to the crew that they have 9 more months to go back to Earth, I may be mistaken and it may be 11 months. But it is around that time frame. This was right before Kane wakes up.

I certainly wouldn't describe the violence in Centurion as "funny." I thought that movie was pretty brutal and realistic in its depiction of Roman era violence. Great movie BTW.

Well, we are nearing the end of October and with no trailer attached to The Thing, we can look forward to In Time!

Mmmmmmmim i'm thinking sucker punch as a prime example lol . (Fucking spice girls ) Well i don't have a problem with female gender roles being portrayed in an unrealistic fashion after all cinema is escapism and not a literal fact of life, especially in the sc fi fantasy genre. The one thing I did get tired of was the over reliance of the Sigourney weaver character in the sequels to alien and aliens , i'm so glad they are having a complete change of direction on that front . After the second film it just got ridiculous that the subsequent films were determined to include the Ripley character. For me the alien films were never grounded by the ripley character or the appeal of the films it has and will always remain the artwork and world of Giger's creation that drew me to the stories but after the second film i felt they became parody's of themselves (even though i understand David Fincher was undermined by fox to deliver the story he wanted to tell) i still think there were a multitude of directions the films could have explored that were not related in any way to Ripley's character. I for one wanted a return to the Necronomicon original alien design where the alien resembled an ultra intelligent insectoid, bio-mechanical creature, and the world in which it inhabits so eerie and bizarre. The look of the creatures were so integral to the appeal that I was anticipating something that truly resembled that original artwork , those huge bug eyes, and that mushroom coloured skin, the enormous head and tail, a creature that had super senses, and could possibly Camouflage it self like some sociopathic instinct driven merciless octopus. Some may argue that the majority of the creature effects represented some of those ideas but for me the creature became more and more like an extra from Spielberg's Jurassic park. Given the budget of the first film and the nature of the effects industry's infancy at that time the creature effects were remarkable, but James Cameron took it to another level again especially with the alien queen designs, Still i believe that the essence of the surreal and totally bizarre world of the alien creature and the alien itself are yet to be fulfilled and i'm hoping that this film in some way goes towards correcting that or at least opens the door for future franchise film makers to deliver the Xenomorph experience we were all hoping for in the first place after the initial two films.

I blame the spice girls lol.... or sucker punch NOW THAT WAS CRAP. I do have some sympathy and can relate to what neurion is saying even though i'm on the fringes of what he believes to be the case . Another point in question is Samuel L Jackson's role in iron man totally inappropriate for the role of Nick Fury . All in all though we're essentially debating the merits of pigment and DNA , history and Hollywood can't erase the achievements of white males or any other creed for that matter its all to well documented. As for the Jews running Hollywood well there simply wouldn't be a Hollywood without them metro Goldwyn mare etc to numerous to mention . Independence day was a real Jew Fest and will smith and Jeff Goldblum save the world Single-handedly but hey that's why these films are labelled fantasy lol. No one with an ounce of common sense takes Hollywood or tv media seriously and no matter how history is distorted through these mediums you have to be pretty dense to take it on face value . Its not new that TV dumb's down its output for mass consumption and Hollywood is no different i suggest viewing more independent films and as for T V just throw the thing away lol. Same goes for most newspapers. Tv or heroin what's your drug of choice.

I think that prometheus being done as a film as a alien sode story will allow alien to speak on its own. Ridley is aware of how the star wars prequels we recieved as far as their over all quality and I think that is the reason why he did not want this to be a direct prequel. Its smart because this could work into its own series kinda like dr who has torchwiod. This movie will give the space jockies their own account. Ridley is a pretty dry person in his interviews and I doubt the dialog will be tasteless like the prequels. Promrtheus may end up being citizen kane of sci fi if all the rumours we have heard so far are even just somewhat true.

I'm hoping for solid "R" rating for sure.

Yeah gladiator was a great film I agree the certificates vary from world regions though here it was a 15 cert. I'm British/English, So I'm not 100% sure what an R rating constitutes but for the record I thought gladiator could have been a bit more realistic or to put it another way braver in its depiction of a Gladiatorial event. I am getting a bit long in the tooth to be impressed by gore for gores sake but in the case of gladiator i feel it could have and should have been far more graphic than it was . The reason being the very nature of the films title, yes the film had good fight sequences and a fair portion of graphic violence but it could of been a lot more sadistic, and for this film it would of highlighted the very appalling nature reflected by the films subject matter . After all i found the gladiator scenes in the life of Brian more graphic lol so on that score i was a little disappointed but I wont deny its one of my fav films I just think Neil Marshall's centurion was a bit more braver in the gore stakes.

There is "funny" gore like in Centurion ( good movie with a great Fassbender ) or in starship troopers ...and there is the "serious" gore like in Saving Private Ryan or Black hawk dawn ( another R for Ridley and an excellent movie )...both kind of gore if used too much can please teens but distract the rest from the movie . I think gore is useful if used to underline a tragic situation , Alien is a perfect example ..one moment of great gore in the perfect moment . Too much gore in the gladiator would have changed the "tone" of the movie and was very risky .

Well my thoughts - i think that star wars is a big circus for children. I found the old AND the new episodes really boring and dumb. Some nice pictures, but really brainless. Also the robot jokes of R2D2 and his companion have never been funny to me - boring. Star Wars its not science fiction, its disneyland in space! I think prometheus will be great - not only because of the interesting story, and i think that everyone who saw Alien was deep impressed by the space jokey and the alien ship, so this could really be interesting. Plus - i think Michael Fassbender is the most interesting actor nowadays, and i am sure he has the potential to dominate the cinema of the next 20 years. Forget about Christian Bale - boring sad man! And i am SO happy that in Prometheus you will NOT see Russel Crowe. I dont like him - boring. I never understood why Ridley Scoot likes Russel Crowe so much.

Hayden Christiansen - yo, good looking guy, but a really bad actor. Maybe some 15year old teens may like him, but he is what he is - boring and not an authentic actor. Hopefully i dont have to see him again in a movie. Even "Jumper" was boring.

Or narration at the beginning describing earth's creation?

Robert Clotworthy is also the narrator for History Channel's show called 'Ancient Aliens'. now relate this with prometheus :) the history channel show is based on eric von denikin's 'ancient astronaut theory'.& the script of prometheus is partially influenced by this theory which ridley scott mentioned at a conference in euro movie exhibiton 3 months ago.

Voice of the giant head??? Sorry I am obsessed with that thing.

I think Scott will do a fine job and blow all our minds again. I'm looking forward to the connection as well but also to a new story that takes us to a whole new level.

Hey you all! Some pretty cool newds for ya the guy who voiced Jim Raynor in the Syarcraft games tweeted that he jusy did some voice work for Ridley Scotts Prometheus. Pretty cool I saw the news posted on alienprequelnews.com . In the fine words of the protoss en taro adun!

Alien Resurrection had a good script , a good director and a good cast ..was really hard to make a sequel to alien 3 ... unfortunately the mood of alien3 is similar to alien ...and the mood of alien resurrection is similar to aliens and that create hipcups in the storytelling of the entire saga . What dont work to me in Alien Resurrection are 3 things 1) is too short in the middle part , so interesting people die too fast ( the script was better ) 2) the bad guy is too straight forward , the aliens must be the bad guys 3) the entire robot/ryder part dont work for me

Hey Miser42, I think the White guy you want to point your finger at is me. I’m the one who brought up traditional male and female film roles in films…in regard to “THE THING” prequel. Then it just sort of evolved…or devolved into this. Sorry about that folks. In my experience, the most stimulating and interesting conversations often include multiple subjects…especially subjects that tend to be taboo. So, I guess I may have stepped on a dick or two. Sorry about that. God forbid the conversation expand into different frontiers. Whew...now I realize not everybody’s ready to discuss social-political attitudes that affect and influence the arts. Funny thing is, according to Ridley Scott…the “PROMETHEUS” film is not an ALIEN film, but a “new, grand mythology and universe in which this original story takes place.” So there you go “Miser”…This website is not really for an ALIEN movie/prequel either (as much as we’d all like it to be). You know…I actually thought of posting my original statements in a more appropriate form on this same website…if there is one, but “The Thing” prequel, and it’s trailers were being discussed on this thread. I’ll try to manage it better next time. Just go ahead and swallow that blue pill, Ahhhhh…ignorance is bliss! ~Neurion "Le Blanc" XXXOOO

Oooh! Ya got me Biomechanic! That’s what I’m after…attention. Ya know…I agree with a lot of what you’re sayin.’ None of this stuff is new. It’s all very old…ancient even. And I agree that my post was too long winded, and that the Protocols of Zion were, and are racist. However, I think it’s possible you may have that in reverse. I have made no personal attacks on this thread, whereas as you seem to be getting very personal, didactic, and mean-hearted in regard to my views, theories, and assessing my mental stability. My post mentioned “groups” and “ideas”, your messages regarding my perspectives and mental state have been vindictive and personally disparaging. I originally sought only to use a macro vs. a microscope on the modern Science fiction/Horror film genre. In spite of our possible differences in opinion, your writing is intelligent, and in fact you seem like a very sharp person. I mean that sincerely…not sarcastically like before. Perhaps we just got off on the wrong foot. Let’s not continue this…and try to find an area of the O’Bannon/Giger/Scott universe, that we enjoy in common. Sorry about the smart-ass sarcasm before. ~Neurion

Biomechanic, Thank you for all your copying and pasting…nothing like a little “free press.” I think it’s pretty obvious that I’ve stepped on a personal nerve here, and I would apologize for that, except you’ll probably just reject it any way. I wish you luck in your vexation. ~N

Intresting post, frankly i'm delighted the ripley character is not in Prometheus . I think they pushed it with the 3rd and fourth to such ridiculous levels that the franchise was ruined for me after the second film. The whole gnosis of the alien film never for me centred on the ripley character although of course she was the original films eventual heroine and this was capitalised to a grander point in the second, but for me the star of the film was always giger's alien and the sense of a genuine alien atmosphere and surreal forboding uncertainty the film so well portrayed. I guess its hard for those not around in 1979 to fully appreciate just how ground breaking and totally new that kind of film making was in those days, although its well documented on those points.. still it was hard to put into words just how it felt seeing it at that time and the witnessing the response to the films impact. I always felt that the film had so much scope for some remarkable sequels and that the very nature of the films set and setting was open to the imagination to really go to town with whatever direction you cared to take it in . By the time we got to the thIrd film the whole thing had become so Convoluted and predictable it lost all of its mystic and for me it was like watching a film about a space lizard on the rampage. I look at Giger's original artwork and their lies the answer why was'nt that world more exploited and replicated into the stories even the alien became like an extra from Spielbergs Jurassic park . I wanted the insect ultra intelligent demonesque creature with those giant black eyes and mushroom coloured skin that communicates its intentions like a sociopathic octopus that can assimilate its environment by Camouflage. The Necronomicon painting fires the imagination of what could have been.

My favourite tends to be whichever I got into most recently, so right now, it's The Walking Dead. Been wanting to try get into Watchmen for a while. Perhaps once I finish with this series...

MISER42 No offense but I disagree completely with almost every single thing you said and you sound like you gathered bits and pieces of a story you don't know very well and decided to present them as if they were already truths. 1st of all, I and everyone else here..., "MUST" nothing. 2nd of all they never said they wanted to stay away from anything, what they said was that they were not going to make this all about linking to the Beginning of the Alien Story & Franchise, but rather... expanding and enhancing that story itself... with references a kin to "Alien DNA". 3rd off all what we know for a fact, is THIS and THIS ONLY...l The film centers on the SPACE JOCKEY {a creature ripped apart by a Xenomorph by the way} and takes a team of scientists and explorers on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life’s ultimate mystery. There, they must fight a terrifying battle to save the future of the human race. 4th of all, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE...LOL... it sounds very much to me like this thing is going to end with a massive battle between men and women and Xenomorphs. and the Xenomorphs obviously WIN based on what we know form the other 4 films. 5th and maybe most important is this...they DO... AND THEY NEED TO WANT TO ...PROMOTE THE "ALIEN ANGLE", AND THE LESS THIS FILM CONNECTS TO THE OTHER 4 THE LESS HAPPY IT'S VIEWERS ARE GOING TO BE AND SCOTT KNOWS THIS BY NOW 100%. The less the ALIEN idea is promoted in some new way in this film, the less success it will have...period. The Xenomorph, always was and always will be at the CORE of these films and I cannot for the life of me understand how anyone would even want Scott to drop that basic piece of the total success out of all of this. What they are doing I believe is just about the opposite of what everyone thinks...they're not taking the Aliens out of Alien, they're Expanding they're role and explaining it to us. The Space Jockey was/is an ALIEN creature, {probably the exact "Growers" that Spaiths created in his original submission} They've already mentioned a terrifying confrontation between Humans and Aliens to save the Human Race will take place in the film. Ridley Scott has always believed that LESS is MORE, so his scares will be done the exact same way in this one that they were done in the first one...he probably will not use the Facehugger or chestburster to do that and so what?...those were just part of the same creatures' life cycle...but what he is probably going to do is tease the viewer by starting out showing us a little and moving slowly towards showing us a lot. This is what he does...and what he shows us is going to be related to the Space Jockey which obviously is the source of the eggs on LV-426...and that's where I think people got lost, The Eggs weren't there on LV-426 to begin with, what happened was the Space Jockey brought them there...and it's key to this ENTIRE FILM SCOTT MAKES NOW. The best thing Scott can do to ensure the success of this film, is to make sure their are as many connections between the other 4 films and this one as is humanly possible. But I think you and everyone else are getting carried away here because it's an ALIEN Franchise film no matter how you slice this and... ...you cannot have one of these without Aliens eating humans...it just don't and wouldn't work that way. The Xenomorph and Gigers' art DEMAND IT.

everyone want to pull prometheus to the side he like more : an horror movie , a erotickinky movie , an action movie , an avp movie , a geeks movie etc etc ... we will see We have some solid points but who knows how it will be the finished product ... btw ""4th of all, IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE...LOL... it sounds very much to me like this thing is going to end with a massive battle between men and women and Xenomorphs. and the Xenomorphs obviously WIN based on what we know form the other 4 films."" well we can presume that the space jockeys race is wiped away ...and the xenomorphes got beaten in every movie :D So im not so sure about the xenomorph win here ..btw its possible that all the crew sacrifice themselves cos obviousely that will fit better with the Alien story

Im very excited about this movie. Not every sequels are good, but its a few years between alien 4 and this one. I really have faith in Ridley Scott when it comes to this one :) Theres a lot of good pin pointers that miser42 and spartacus mentionod, but are they really cutting the facehugger and chestbusters out of this film? Not that they are my favorite parts of the movies, but they stil are a big deal when it comes to the growing cycle of the xenomorphs. So cutting them out just to avoid it completely, makes it feel like some pieces might be lost?...

dude, :( fingers crossed.

Miser42... I read EVERY word, Have much more to say but after that response of yours it is 100% obvious you took Offense to what I was trying to explain to you so I'll just bow down to your superior intelligence... LMFAO !!! seriously man !!! THIS IS WORD FOR WORD EXACTLY WHAT RIDLEY SCOTT HAS SAID...AND NOTHING ELSE... Scott acknowledged that Prometheus, while not be a direct prequel to Alien... "It occupies the same general universe", saying the picture was... "inspired by a desire to explore the mystery of the “space jockey” the giant fossilized creature with the burst-open chest seen in the first Alien movie but never explained.”. seriously !!! Intelligence...?... just LMFAO !!!

i want rated R i wanna see THE BLOOD HA HA HA but its ok if its pg 13

i want blood, nastyness, horror and i want to be thrilled. if this film has a pg rating in it then, well,... what a sellout.

The Gladiator was R ... and was a worldwide success ... Alien is R ...and is a worldwide success and a movie history masterpiece Bladerunner is R ..and is a worldwide success and a movie history masterpiece so i dont think Scott will be ashamed to go for an R but still expect CLASS and no gore and violence more of what is needed for the purpose of the movie .

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