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AlienPrometheus ForumConfirmed – Fox postpone official Prometheus trailer release following recent leDec 7, 2011
Ahh this is starting to kill me.... and to think we had such an amazing week of news goodies for a bit... :P Figures FOX gives us the Finger... again...
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumConfirmed – Fox postpone official Prometheus trailer release following recent leDec 7, 2011
Trust me when I tell you that the trailer will not change your life. It will come and go. It saddens me to realize, as I read and write here sleeplessly, that we are devoting too much energy to this. (That must amuse Fox execs)
Posting comments , scanning old (and quite bad) novels by Alan Dean Foster, changing profile pics, and discussing each detail ad naseum... If I were a casual observer I would say we all should get a life! Alas, I am but a fanboy of the fiction, and I'll see this film on its opening day, and I'll probably lurk about this site a few more times between now and then, but I won't be a big poster here.
I am excited to see the Alien progenetor imagined by its greatest director. And I am saddened to see us sucking up to this movie which might ultimately disappoint us all. So go about your lives now and create something wonderful yourself. You all seem wonderfully creative. There are plenty of disappointing movies out there to see ie THE THING! An plenty to recommend as in HUGO. PROMETHEUS will be along shortly- go about your lives now. There's nothing to see here. And by the way, move out of your parents' house immediately,
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumConfirmed – Fox postpone official Prometheus trailer release following recent leDec 7, 2011
FOX fingers the cat then gives us the finger. Arseholes.
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumConfirmed – Fox postpone official Prometheus trailer release following recent leDec 7, 2011
[url]http://www.prometheusmovienews.com/2011/12/confirmed-fox-postpone-official-prometheus-trailer-release-following-recent-leak/[/url]
ReplyParkerPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
About 1:20 min into this interview (see link below) Ridley talks about something from the first movie, don't know if it is this he refers to.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LeIce4lc8s
ReplyVanilla-HollywoodPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Hello.
Keen observation I must say, thanx to shadowcaster for that contribution.
I, for my part, have only the novel of Aliens, also by A.D. Foster;
unspectacularly, this one doesn´t go much beyond the actual plot of the Aliens-Movie.
I don´t like his renarrations for the Alien-movies at all; he had quite better stories.
To your discovery I must note, that urnes/ampules arent that thin walled
as it´s prescribed in this novelisation.
As far as I perceive, one of them is unsealed indeed,
but it doesn´t seem to be broken-- it´s rather molten.
So, no fragility but sensivity to effect of heat, in my opinion.
VH.
P.S.: I don´t think R. Scott would consider to do an `Alien 5´-Movie
for the next occasion executable, but nonetheless this quotion of
aerogramm is another good observation.
To me, it´s ought to reflect the companies policy of `Weyland-Yutani´
at last, which is shown in leaving special waste behind, also of disused
information.
...Of course it´s headed by to bring out Ripleys status to legal discretion,
Weyland-Yutanis group of delegates need to be informed at each single
step of their interventions.
ReplyMicro changes in air densityPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Yes excellent piece there Shadowcaster. It would be great to read the initial full unadultered script for Alien. Seems still to be bits coming out of it after all these years. I recall reading at the time that a script included a vast pyramid type structure was to be found by Kane Dallas and Lambert and not a ship, and inside would be the Alien eggs and include a seen similar to the jockey. I don't get the molten urn though. Will LV426 now be the main base of the movie?
ReplyShadowcasterPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
I like that this is sparking some interesting thoughts.
That was totally the hope that this discovery birthed in me. Keep it up, the more thought we pour in the greater the ideas become :)
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Originally Alien was to feature a Pyramid which contained urns, but when Giger became involved the Pyramid was changed to the Derelict and the Urns became eggs.
We have seen from the released pictures and the leaked trailer that the urns have been brought back. Ridley obviously wants to create a branching franchise that although tied to Alien goes in a different direction but within the same universe, and to do this he has recycled the urn idea and decided to explore the mysterious Space Jockeys.
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Interesting post...From the screen shots of the urns I can't help but think this is what the mechanics use to transport the facehuggers. This would make sense to me if they used the xenomorphs as a weapon, create the huggers and store them in the urns until they were needed. The thinking being a sealed container would be more controllable than an egg.
But if one was damaged and the hugger escaped, impregnating the mechanic, and the result was a queen this would explain why there were thousands of eggs laid in the ship (Alien)
Probably way off.... Ridley Scott's a genious so it could be anything...
Don't know about everyone else but i'm loving how secret their keeping the plot line of Prometheus, i'm a massive fan of the Aliens franchise and i'd love to know to know what the story is all about, but at the same time it's going to be a good surprise... That's the trouble with most films now, the studios release 2 or 3 trailers and a featurette before the movie comes out, on top of the detailed plot lines it leaves no room for imagination and surprise, you go to watch a movie that leaves nothing to the imagination.
Good on Mr Scott for keeping this a closely guarded secret (even though us fans are desperate to know more!)
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
To be honest, i'm starting to get a bit annoyed due to the fact that people are adament that Prometheus is not an Alien prequel, thats like trying to say The Hobbit isnt a prequel to Lord of the Rings. I mean, it has Weyland Yutani, Space Jockeys, Androids etc etc.
If it can't be called a prequel then what is it? A forerunner?
ReplyFire to the GodsPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
This is a really interesting find, had no idea that this was in the original Alien story...
I can't help but think that the urns are a 'mechanical' way to transport facehuggers, the engineers could create the huggers contain them in the urns and use them when needed, which would be more controllable than using eggs. What if one of the urns was damaged and a hugger escaped, impregnating the engineer, resulting in a queen that could lay thousands of eggs? (Alien)
Could be way off, Ridley Scott's a genious so it could be anything...
Love that they are being so secretive about the story, building up anticipation for it, Hollywood should take note, nearly every movie released these days has 2 or 3 trailers come out, as well as featurettes and detailed plot lines. By the time you get to watch a movie you know everything about it, there's no surprise or wonder.
Hats off to the studio and Mr Scott for keeping tight lipped (Although as a fan I really want to know everything about this movie!)
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Yeah its been a masterstroke keeping it secret and all the misleading press releases (prometheus is not an alien prequel,my arse)
I think the 'leaked' trailer was an even better masterstroke, its created nothing but excitement,anticipation and discussion/debate
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
@ Fire to the Gods. The urns will not be used for transportation of eggs, thats what the derelict is for. And the Derelict was purposefully carrying the eggs, as shown by the fact that they were covered by an interactive mist that reacted when Kane touched it. the urns are in fact going to something new and possibly a pre-cursor to the eggs.
As for your idea regards the Queen coming from the Space Jockey, two questions negate that possibility - How did the queen last so long until Hadleys Hope was established? And how come the Queen had no features reminiscent of the Space Jockey?
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
I totally agree with you there Thadus, I had a rant in another post about how saying Promethus isn't an Alien prequel is like saying The Hobbit isn't a prequel to Lord of the Rings. Personally, I think all this business with "leaked" trailers and unconfirmed plots etc is just testing the water for a viral marketing campaign. Its happened with several other films I can think of, why not with Prometheus?
ReplyThadus 12Prometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Yeah i totally believe its all part of the marketing
ReplyFire to the GodsPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
@ Snorkelbottom
Hence me saying way off...
The derelict was in Alien right, and Prometheus is a pre cursor to the movie, so in Prometheus the derelict could be a working ship, my point is if something were to happen i.e. facehugger impregnating an engineer and the result was a queen, the queen could have laid all the eggs that were seen in the derelict, this would mean the 'working ship' would have to crash into the planetoid toward the end of Prometheus. As for the blue light?? I don't know, maybe it was used over the urns?? I don't know.
And I wasn't suggesting the Queen at Hadley's hope came from the derelict... it could have easily come from one of the people at Hadleys hope i.e Newts Dad.. so you could say where was the Alien Queen in the derelict in Alien, to which I would say...I don't know....looked like a big ship...could have been in a part that Cane, Dallas & Lambert didn't search probably years dead as the derelict had supposedly been there years..
Just speculating...
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
I like the idea of the Queen Alien coming from the Space Jockey in the crashed derelict, laying all the eggs and either laying in wait or dying off from lack of sustenance. Consider this, there are parts of the derelict we did not see, and after the recent posting from the original Alien novel, we now know that urns were present in the derelict, if the Queen did come from the Space jockey then she could have used the urns for sustenance and laid in wait, leading up to the 2nd discovery of the derelict by newts parents.
ReplyMicro changes in air densityPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
I like some of these ideas but if Scott says just the last 8 minutes relate to ALien then thats it. The Alien franchise is in tatters at this stage and I'm sure Scott wants to protect his credibility as a director. He said the only reason he got involved in this was because he could see a chance to tackle the mystery of the origins of man. So 92% of this movie is a new venture. I reckon these photos are leaked to keep the likes of us interested and whilst they may appear along the way no answers about eggs, xenos or queens will come out until the end. Mind you I'd like to see a queen based on SJ DNA.
A queen rampaging around the planet tearing people apart is not Scotts thing.
I reckon the eggs are layed on the ship after it crashes and the queen dies out.
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
It is my belief, which is shared in part with both Ridley Scott and James Cameron that the Derelict was a Space Jockey ship with an intentional cargo of alien eggs. However, one of them aired the view that the ship is carrying them for experimentation, whereas the other aired the view that the ship was carrying them like a bomber, ready for deployment.
Regards urns being on the Derelict, we never saw that. Originally it was a Pyramid with urns, on film it became a Derelict ship with eggs. Alan Dean Foster simply took elements of the original script and added them to his manuscript, recycling of old ideas, which is how Prometheus started.
ReplyUeliPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Hi there, this is my first post. First of all sorry for my poor english, hope you guys will understand.
What do you think? Could it be, that PROMETHEUS IS THE DERELICT?
I think, what is inside the urns/ampulles, is something that can change matter, splice organic with non-organic, making things biomechanic.
On the PROMETHEUS set you see biomechanical environment, but the urns and the statue of the head are normal, they are of the same material, a material that can not be changed by the content of the urns. Everything else is spliced to biomechanical. The walls are spliced with... maybe with the inhabitants or pets or plants of the planet.
The SJ in Alien is spliced with the chair. Maybe he was an android, or he was a human being...
In Aliens the walls around the nest where the queen resides were transformed to biomechanic. Aliens came out of the walls. In Alien the Alien came out of the wall at the end... it was hiding in the wall... maybe its nature to hide in walls.
I think one of the androids in PROMETHEUS will touch the content of the urn and convert to something like an Alien.
What do you think? Makes sense?
ReplyTritonPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
I believe that in the underlined paragraphs, Alan Dean Foster is describing an empty egg.
ReplybregoPrometheus ForumPrometheus/Alien Tie In... Possibly!?Dec 7, 2011
Hi guys. Ive read the vovel and the "Urn" is in fact an empty egg (I think Cain remarks that the eggs in the egg chamber are the same) also the "mechanism" is the distress beacon, which the Nostromo crew switch off (from memory) upon finding it.
There are many other slight differences from Film to Novel. Its a great read, if you havnt I recommend it!
ReplyJanekPrometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
according to imdb guys, images are fake the set photo is from ALIEN. Nothing to see here. david picture is very convincing too, but photoshopped
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
It's not confirmed, just the opinion of poster "pinewoodfan". Apparently there's a stack of set pics on Fassbenders' site and thats where the pics are supposed to have come from. If the site is legit then why would Fassbender post fakes?
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
How about these?
[url]http://www.michaelfassbender.org/prbts19.html[/url]
Note the Weyland Yutani logo.
[url]http://www.michaelfassbender.org/prbts7.html[/url]
Ampules?
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
Engineer that photos are a bit old , 3 months ago ,,,regarding the fassbender photo we can assume that there are 2 different suits ..one of planet exploration and one maybe for the void space .
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
Very nice! But unfortunately these images are in fact "fake". PrometheusNews.net even removed their original post for this after realising. But regardless, great photoshop work on the pic of "David"!
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumAnother Set Pic and DavidDec 7, 2011
yes great work ...ty for the clarification bughunter .. !!
ReplyAlienPrometheus ForumAlien In 30 seconds With Bunnies !Dec 7, 2011
@Engineer Prototype-OMG that was so fricken awsome... I cant believe i never saw that before!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOZVp9NFhQE anyway found this... it was made by some ppl on youtube, i think this is pretty good... what ya all think?
ReplyEngineer Prototype - Model GAJ84Prometheus ForumAlien In 30 seconds With Bunnies !Dec 7, 2011
Pretty damn good to be fair. I think they could have put more effort into the batman costume rather than using a £30 fancy dress kit, they obvlously put alot of effort in with the Aliens & Predators. I like crossovers and that one was pretty good.
ReplyAlienPrometheus ForumAlien In 30 seconds With Bunnies !Dec 7, 2011
I agree with the batman costume. but of all the youtube videos ive seen.. that was a pretty good one!
Replyjosef wiltonPrometheus ForumAlien In 30 seconds With Bunnies !Dec 7, 2011
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Replyjosef wiltonPrometheus ForumAlien In 30 seconds With Bunnies !Dec 7, 2011
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ReplyDibdabPrometheus ForumLink to Predator?Dec 7, 2011
Yeah looking at that pic you could somewhat say, they are similar.
but Predators are in no-way attached to this movie. Predator have absolutely nothing to do with the Alien(Scott) universe. not even Alien 2 3 and 4 have anything to do with this IMO.
ReplyMicro changes in air densityPrometheus ForumLink to Predator?Dec 7, 2011
Hopefully no link at all here
ReplyxenomorphasmidPrometheus ForumLink to Predator?Dec 7, 2011
don't think they're the same. And some, well hidden, links to other movies aren't wrong. As long as you don't see them directly. Predators had some really nice links, according to some people also to alien(I have my doubts about the burning skull).
ReplyFrantzPrometheus ForumLink to Predator?Dec 7, 2011
Ridley scott will try to stay away from any kind of relationshio with everything was done after the first alien
ReplyGavinPrometheus ForumLink to Predator?Dec 7, 2011
@ Frantz, Ridley Scott has praised James Cameron's sequel Aliens, and James Cameron has stated that he enjoyed AVP, and that he liked the way in which it pre-empted the first two Alien films.
Also take into account that the assumed benign nature of the Space Jockey's is not that dis-similar to that of the Predators shown in AVP. In fact, it is safe to say that this "ancient astronaut" theory is not a new feature to the franchise as a whole.
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