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ChrisPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 4, 2011
These are all great ideas guys! I personally like Astro's post:
[i]"The god Prometheus created man and stole fire from the god Zeus. He gave fire to man to make man equal to a god. Zeus severly punished Prometheus
Ridley Scott says (paraphrased) ‘The Company's ship, Prometheus, travels light years into deep space as a challange to the gods’.
In the movie, do you think the fire stolen by Prometheus will be the Aliens knowledge of teraforming or is that too literal?
Was the derelict ship on it's way to punish earth for the events of the Prometheus voyage, and was the company looking for it? .........all priorities recinded!
Also, the android in Prometheus will be technology 30 years pre-Ash. Twitchy!"[/i]
I agree with this 100%! This has been my hypothesis for this film ever since the title was announced.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumFacehugger and the EggJul 4, 2011
If an alien bleeds acid in the forest, does it make a sound? OK Guys & Dolls, ALL Alien movies have been about one thing. Is it gonna get us all before we get it? Right? That is why, I am certain, Ridley said Prom is a stand alone movie etc.....! prom will not be that. I think all of us are on that same page. Prom will be the 2001 of the franchise.
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumFacehugger and the EggJul 4, 2011
I much as I don't mind blazing off with a kush 2085 space odyssey, I would cross-breed that with some Chronic Galaxy of Terror. Double chambered Snork extravaganga! Medical implementation of much needed pain relief! You know just killing time while time is killing me.
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumIf space jockey's can read mindsJul 4, 2011
That's certainly quite the ideas you have there Ruhaniya. But yes, it seems many fans liked the "Shadow 19" script. But according to FOX, that "direction" is "way off". Unless they just don't want the story leaking out... But either way, it's a very interresting script and would make a killer movie.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 3, 2011
I've been happering away at this for a week, most of those sick days. I'm about ready to give it a rest until I hear something that sparks my interest to re-engage. Here's why.
Official Synopsis:
"Visionary filmmaker Ridley Scott returns to the genre he helped define, creating an original science fiction epic set in the most dangerous corners of the universe. The film takes a team of scientists and explorers on a thrilling journey that will test their physical and mental limits and strand them on a distant world, where they will discover the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery."
I now believe this synopsis completely. The definition of the word strand is (I believe this synopsis was carefully crafted) "to leave in a strange or an unfavorable place especially without funds or means to depart". If we rule out being rescued from a distant star system, whats left? I think it's acceptance of your fate as you contemplate "the answers to our most profound questions and to life's ultimate mystery". I think I'll watch 2001 A Space Odyssey again.
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 3, 2011
Prometheus an epic space odyssey! I need to snork some right now, the anticipation is killing me. They already got my money and the trailer hasn't come out yet. When it does I would even see a bad movie to see it, Better yet, a 3D movie just to see the 3D trailer.
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumIf space jockey's can read mindsJul 3, 2011
The aliens have read their minds and is going to ghost em" put shit in their heads so they don't go straight and bodies that will be the ultimately cursed. They'll have anticipated the humans reactions to their new found Masters! An armed military force, supported by human colonies would have to fight off the invasion similar to Star craft but immensely bigger. Like a giant rock concert in the heavens! But maybe those space jockey biomechanical habitats are really like paradise to the Jockeys so. It doesn't really matter cause it's probably an alternate reality Alien flick but then weed be the ones getting ghosted by flying glowing mentos. U F Offs Right BugBlaster!
Reply RuhaniyaPrometheus ForumTransformersJul 3, 2011
I think the next transformers movie they make, it should have less humans and more character time with the transformers. It would be great to go to Cybertron, just before the war started. A little time traveling with Optimus involved to make it more interesting and of course in 3D.
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 2, 2011
The god Prometheus created man and stole fire from the god Zeus. He gave fire to man to make man equal to a god. Zeus severly punished Prometheus
Ridley Scott says (paraphrased) ‘The Company's ship, Prometheus, travels light years into deep space as a challange to the gods’.
In the movie, do you think the fire stolen by Prometheus will be the Aliens knowledge of teraforming or is that too literal?
Was the derelict ship on it's way to punish earth for the events of the Prometheus voyage, and was the company looking for it? .........all priorities recinded!
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 2, 2011
The god Prometheus created man and stole fire from the god Zeus. He gave fire to man to make man equal to a god. Zeus severly punished Prometheus
Ridley Scott says (paraphrased) ‘The Company's ship, Prometheus, travels light years into deep space as a challange to the gods’.
In the movie, do you think the fire stolen by Prometheus will be the Aliens knowledge of teraforming or is that too literal?
Was the derelict ship on it's way to punish earth for the events of the Prometheus voyage, and was the company looking for it? .........all priorities recinded!
Also, the android in Prometheus will be technology 30 years pre-Ash. Twitchy!
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 2, 2011
Hey Astro good idea. Prometheus was actually a Titan in Greek Mythology, he is also known as Loki in Norse Mythology. To me if you read Loki's description (via wiki) your thoughts go straight to the alien with its ability to incorporate its host DNA with its own and shift its shape (to a degree) to that similar of its host. I think the corporation stole the Alien DNA code not knowing what they really had in our midst. But then again it could be the terraforming code as well because it Aliens Burke mentions the company has been doing a lot of terraforming. Then again it could be some sort of DNA code that allows the Alien and thus some sort of organic apparatus that converts atmosphere into oxygen/nitrogen. Recall that the facehugger kept Kane alive while his helmet was breached to LV-426's atmosphere.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 2, 2011
I'll check out Loki Rick. Knowing Ridley sees this as a stand alone film, part of a grand mythology with strands of Alien dna in it, I think stealing a technology is not grand enough. The space jockey race surely knows much more than just terraforming. All the stops will be pulled out, 250mil, and it will be glorious. I cant wait to see Prometheus then go home and watch Alien.
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on PrometheusJul 2, 2011
I was just thinking the same thing Astro, ha. I am also looking forward to Prometheus, there is no doubt in my mind that it will be one of the best sci fi films to hit the big screen in a long time. With Ridley Scott back int he director chair, and with a killer cast lined up, you can expect Prometheus will be the "be all, end all" film of the year... and possibly for many years to come.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on the Prometheus AlienJul 2, 2011
I think we might want to talk about the only aliens we know that will be in the movie predominantly, the space jockey species. This movie is not about the xenomorphs, though they will probably be in it. It's about the species that created them and probably us. Fassbender said the action (probably xenomorphs - I think) takes place in the final third of the movie. The first two thirds slowly builds fear tension including politics amongst the crew. It's a good video interview by mtv.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
No Necronome Temple Secrets, it's called a rewrite, and a great one at that. Look at all the mystery and suspense the one space jockey has created. Ridley showed just enough to create that. It's not how much you see, it's what you don't see cowboy.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
the concept art pic of a space jockey standing, clothed/armored tells you just a bit, but invites us to fill in the blanks. Thats what an artist does, pulls you into the art.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
Ruhaniya, all very interesting, really, but all of that, the concepts, the speculation, the mythology are all created by us to explain what we don't understand, like the space jockey. Actually his essence is styrafoam and paint assembled by an artist.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
The essence of the space jockey is styrafoam and paint assembled by an artist. All the rest of that is mythology, which was created by us in an attempt to explain what we don't understand.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
Humans created mythology to explain what we don't understand. Some of these posts are factual and some are mythology, and all very interesting. Imagine, we have a year to wait for this thing.
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
I feel that this whole business of the Space Jockey or its race being “gods” or progenitors of the human race (if that is the case) in the PROMETHEUS film is a proverbial “slap in the face” to folks who do believe in God. According to Wikipedia, 2.5% of the world’s population are atheists. Therefore, this concept “flys in face” of 97.5% of the populations more traditional perspectives of creation, and the origin of our species. Why would Ridley Scott and company make such a bold and potentially offensive faux pas as a plot point? My only guess, is that they just don’t care. Sir Ridley is not beyond tweaking his films and history to push his own anti-religious agendas. This is quite evident if you’ve ever seen Scott’s ROBIN HOOD, KINGDOM OF HEAVEN, 1492: CONQUEST OF PARADISE, etc. By the way, I'm a serious fan of Ridley Scotts work...most of it any way...especially ALIEN, BLADE RUNNER, and GLADIATOR.
Now I don’t mean to be all “preachy”, but I just think its ill advised for the filmmakers to potentially insult the bulk of their audience…that’s “asses in seats”…that’s money! Obviously, a good artist is bound to be revolutionary at times…I just think that he should also be respectful of the viewers perspectives. Remember how most of us felt when Newt and Hicks were killed off before the opening credits of ALIEN 3 had even finished? Geeeez…That was just straight out “disrespectful”. In the end…its only a movie, but ALIEN and ALIENS were two great ones! I just hope that I will be able to glean some of the same fun, scares and fascination from PROMETHEUS, that I did from those first two films…especially the great original.
~Neurion
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
Yo Neurion you need to see Damon Lindelof's Interview it sheds some light on Prometheus Plot. Check the Discussions I have a post on it.
ReplyNeurionPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
Hey Rick,
Thanks for the tip, that was an excellent interview...although very cryptic. At least it was from the "horses mouth"...and he was'nt sayin' "Jack squat" about the actual storyline. That's pretty much what I suspected. So, most...or virtually all of the internet traffic and squabbling about the plot is a bunch of subjective hooey! Right?
~Neurion
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 2, 2011
Yeah pretty much. Its cryptic but you need to read between the lines and what he doesn't say speaks volumes more than what he does say. Like No facehuggers, no humanized alien, only about the Space Jockey and will answer many questions that we have had about the alien for 30 years.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumWill Charlize Theron's beauty be subverted?Jul 2, 2011
Vickers is another charactor's love interest. If there is sex, why subvert her beauty? But, she does play the charactor older, 40 something.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumIf space jockey's can read mindsJul 2, 2011
A wink and a smile, thats mind control isn't it? I read 1/4 of the Alien Harvest script, including that sex scene. Just boring. Now "Shadow 19" wow! It has a terraforming ship named Prometheus thats transforming another planet because Earth has about had it. It has ramped up coloniel marine action and I mean ramped up.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumIs the space jockey just a space elephantJul 2, 2011
Wasn't called for. Sorry. A ship accident on board maybe. That could happen. After reading the leaked(?) outline it sort of sounded like the derelict ship was pursueing the fleeing Prometheus ship to infect earth with all those pods bringing the wrath of god to earths ungrateful children.....and I am a pussy cat.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 2, 2011
I agree Rick. Fear of the face hugger/xenomorph is a given. If they are in there, it will probably be late in the movie. This will do what 2001 didn't do. This will show us our creator/god (van daniken). Then, humans will steal gods fire, and the game is on.
ReplyGuestPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 2, 2011
Right, now there was a rumor that there would be sequels to Prometheus that would take the genre in a whole new direction that I think would be awesome as long as it doesn't delude our harbingers of death anymore than they have been with the crap sequels. I think after Aliens it took the downward spiral into the crapper. I mean how did the spindly queen bring multiple eggs up to the Sulaco when she was coming down the hall empty handed? I know it was meant as a joke but really?
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 2, 2011
Regarding Van Daniken. You guys should dig into the late Zecharia Sitchin's work with the Earth Chronicles series of books. I have them all and its several thousands of pages worth of reading on alternative human history and might shed some light on the movie if Prometheus does take a Van Daniken spin on it.
I heard there will be sequels to Prometheus that takes the genre in a whole new direction from where it has gone. This I think will be fascinating as long as our "harbingers of death" don't get deluded anymore.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 2, 2011
We'll have all new aliens, the space jokey's race, and I'm sure they are a diverse group.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Prometheus-Movie/171994999501908?sk=photos#!/photo.php?fbid=2062918060375&set=o.171994999501908&type=1&theater
Check it out.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumJon Sapihts "Shadow 19" ScriptJul 2, 2011
Rick, I found it again yesterday. First time I could have downloaded it, but now I could only read it. Already done that. Here it is http://pdfcast.org/pdf/shadow-19. Maybe you'll have better luck downloading.
ReplyChrisPrometheus ForumTransformersJul 2, 2011
Haven't yet, but I am planning on seeing it this tuesday. I've heard it's the best Transformers movie yet.
ReplyRaptorPrometheus ForumThe Space JockeyJul 1, 2011
Personally. I am very glad that they have decided to include the Space Jockey in the film. I mean, its what every fan has been anticipating for for like 30 years since the original film. As far as physical appearance, I hope they are large (as far as the rumors/news has put out so far) in a range from 8 to 15 feet in height. Mass? Enough to proportionately accomadate that height. Coloration... I guess we will have to see, but since Giger is involved in the designs i'm sure it will not disappoint. The look will probbaly be memorable and something new in the Alien canon. I would prefer them to be a "hostile" species bent on conquest. They may not attack/kill humans outright, but their intentions are to dominate humanity through their terraforming and unleashing the xenos as a way to erradicate the human race. But, they would definitely be superior in brute strength to a human. I feel the comic [u]Aliens:Apocalypse the Destroying Angels[/u] was a basis for the ideas of Prometheus and if you read the comic. you will definitely see the strong ties to this fim. It even features the "larger xenomorph types" that this film will have (with exceptions of course) . I guess I see the Space Jockey as a conqueror type of species with superior intellignece and something that should have a mysterious aura about it. I would say they "do not" come in peace since they want to terraform the galaxy using the xenomorph as an extermination tool.
ReplyJonesyTheCatPrometheus ForumPrometheus TaglineJul 1, 2011
In light of the leaked supposed synopsis, I have a new 'ambigious' tagline...
Prepare to meet your makers.
ReplyastromaxPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 1, 2011
With no chest bursters we won't be dealing with an infected situarion (eggs). So, the leaked(?) outline makes sense.
Artifacts & coordinates discovered.
Travel to meet our makers.
Wear out our welcome by stealing teraforming source code.
Humans are attacked, escape but are pursued.
Wouldn't it be inteesting if the pursuit ship is the derelict ship, fron Alien, filled with pods for earth, the Space jockey's ungratful children's home. If we really did escape, where is the source code? Area 51 I guess.
ReplyReaperPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 1, 2011
They did mention the new creatures would have a sexual characteristic. Perhaps the method of infection is more akin to the AVP2 method where the embryos were implanted via a massive face hug from the Predalien itself. It should be very interesting to see, and I personally can't wait for the new shift.
So long as the stick to the creature I grew up fearing in principle, I'm hoping it will be an improvement. If it looks ridiculous, then it won't be a horror movie but an action one. Either way I'll be pleased, but I'm really hoping to capture that sense of fear I got from Alien and Alien 3 (Aliens was an action movie).
Stealthy, cruel, cunning, cold and calculated. No more cannon fodder alien swarms please. I want to see them using their greatest advantages, darkness and fear, against people and the other race. Something that brings the horror back into this series.
ReplyRickPrometheus ForumDamon Lindelof InterviewJul 1, 2011
Hey guys that plot isn't the actual plot, a Fox Rep shot it down. From watching the interview what I took away from it was the focus of the movie won't be about the Alien, it will be about the Space Jockey and how the Aliens fit into the "Alien Universe" through the derelict and hopefully the "who, what, when, where, and why" behind the Aliens.
ReplyReaperPrometheus ForumYour thoughts on the Prometheus AlienJun 30, 2011
I hope they don't just go Queen scale with these aliens either. The pilot was pretty huge, and if that's what the MALE'S grow to, I'd like to see the new Queen. Better yet, I'd like to see what the pathetic humans with pop-guns are going to do to a 40 foot walking terror.
I think my scale is about right. The regular xenomorphs are about human sized at approximately 6 feet (standing), some bigger, some slightly smaller. The queen is roughly 15 feet tall. That gives a good solid 2.5:1 ratio in sizes. If the pilot in Alien is an indication, the new basic male creatures should be roughly the same as a Queen. Which puts the Queen at a healthy 35 - 40 feet tall. Which is like fighting a house. I'd love to see that. I just don't want to see super slow attacks by something so massive (Like the end of AVP). Just because it's big, doesn't mean it's not lightning fast. Anybody who's seen a 20 foot alligator or shark hit something knows size does not mean slow.
ReplyReaperPrometheus ForumPrometheus TaglineJun 30, 2011
I created an account just to respond to you Praetorian. I really like where you went with the analogies to Prometheus. To that end:
"When life evolved it started with war. Every predator has prey, and every prey is a predator. When mankind tipped the scales of balance through technology and science, life found a way. On a planet inhabited by an advanced race of [insert new race name here], a new evolution balanced the scales. An evolution, born of terror."
TAGLINES
In space... a predator is born
In space... fear has taken on new form
In space... life comes with it's own price
In space... it has awakened
And my personal favourite....
Rebirth... through Destruction
- Reaper
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