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Scott vs Blomkamp for the next Alien movie!

Scott vs Blomkamp for the next Alien movie!

Following the recent and monumental acquisition of 21st Century Fox by Disney, South-African director Neill Blomkamp has released some previously unseen concept art from the sequel to James Cameron's Aliens he had proposed and was briefly considered by Fox back in 2015. These two images, one of the iconic UD-4L Cheyenne Dropship in a hangar and another of the titular Xenomorph antagonist lurking in a ventilation shaft (pictured below), have sparked new interest in Blomkamp's canceled Aliens sequel. With many fans of the Alien franchise apprehensive about the future of their beloved movie series following Fox's acquisition by Disney and the division of the fanbase caused by Ridley Scott's polarizing prequels to Alien, these two pieces of concept art have been viewed by some commentators as a possible pitch by Blomkamp to the new executives at Disney at reviving interest in his proposed Alien movie, originally titled Alien: Awakening.

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In 2015 Blomkamp released concept art via his Instagram account that featured franchise star Sigourney Weaver reprising her role as Ellen Ripley, accompanied by Michael Biehn as Colonial Marine Corporal Dwayne Hicks, complete with the facial burns he suffered toward the end of 1986's Aliens. The release of other conceptual images featuring the derelict Juggernaut and the Xenomorph Queen, among others have ignited an overwhelmingly positive response from fans, movie critics, and even general audiences. Following the release of the concept art for the movie, long-term Alien franchise collaborators Amalgamated Dynamics (ADI) released concept make up effects for Biehn's character. With support growing for the movie from ADI, Weaver, and Biehn, Blomkamp confirmed that the sequel would be his next movie, but in October 2015 the project was put on hold by studio Fox, pending the reception to Scott's Alien: Covenant. Yet, despite Covenant's underwhelming performance at the box office Scott, who had previously been attached as Alien: Awakening's executive producer, confirmed that Blomkamp's movie had been canceled and that the next installment in his series of prequels to Alien would assimilate the movie's title.

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Despite Fox chairperson Stacey Snider's claims that she trusts Scott with the future of the Alien franchise, the recent acquisition of Fox by Disney, Blomkamp's timely release of these new pieces of concept art, and the growing division among the fanbase may actually be the chain of events that could see Disney executives seriously consider Blomkamp's vision for the future of the Alien franchise. Unfortunately, since the initial cancelation of the project, support for it among the Alien fanbase has grown divided with supporters eager to revisit the world and characters Cameron first created in 1986, but with detractors citing Blomkamp's filmography as reason enough to leave the project abandoned. We here at Scified have played devils advocate and aired both arguments; believing Blomkamp's vision to revisit the popular "Ripley" era of the universe may be the much-needed injection the franchise needs, while conversely, we have cited our concerns that the projects use of nostalgia and fan-service may not be enough for fans that want to see the franchise evolve beyond its humble movie monster beginnings.

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To seriously consider Blomkamp's vision of a sequel to Aliens over Scott's preference for a "War of the Worlds" between the Engineers and sociopathic synthetic David, we have to ascertain which proposal is the better alternative, but to do so we must ask ourselves what constitutes a good Alien movie. Not in terms of our individual opinions, which are subjective, but by critically identifying the better movies of the franchise through objective analysis. As such, poor characterization and poor narrative structure immediately omit's Scott's prequels, and the needlessly comedic undertones and poor execution see Alien: Resurrection join them. Despite its growing favor over the years one too must also strike Alien 3 from contention due to its many narrative inconsistencies, which leaves us with the first two installments; Scott's Alien and Cameron's Aliens. The former is the progenitor of the franchise, which while scattered with small flaws is considered a classic and a masterpiece by most of the fanbase. The latter, while the subject of much criticism from some fans was executed beautifully within its chosen genre and has since inspired other franchises such as Starship Troopers and Halo. Each of these two movies features memorable and cherished characters and effectively use the Xenomorph as the antagonist to create fear, suspense, drama, and a sense of overwhelming and impending futility.

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This leads us to the conclusion that a good Alien movie should feature the titular antagonist, used effectively in its role opposite a group of well-realized human characters, along with every good movies necessary ingredient - a strong and effective narrative. Considering the aforementioned poor characterization of the Alien prequels and Scott's intention for the sequel to Alien: Covenant to continue its focus on David as the antagonist, rather than the Xenomorph would suggest that Scott's proposal would not make for a good Alien movie. On the other hand, Blomkamp wishes to metaphorically resurrect favored characters Ripley, Hicks, and Newt in a story that will see the Xenomorph return to prominence as the movie's antagonist. Fans of Scott's prequels will state their desire to see the prequel series completed and tied narratively into 1979's Alien, but do we really need a sequel to Alien: Covenant? Do we really need to see the fate of the colony ship? Do we really need the mystery of the derelict Juggernaut revealed? Would it not be better to leave the fate of the USCSS Covenant and the history of the derelict open to interpretation and future exploration? Conversely, one could argue the same of Blomkamp's proposed sequel and ask whether we really need to see Ripley, Hicks and Newt return, only for them to be returned to the grave? Do we really need to return to LV-426's derelict Juggernaut and its cargo of Ovomorph's (Xenomorph eggs)? and importantly for fans, how exactly does Blomkamp intend on resurrecting Hicks and Newt, who died in Alien 3's opening?

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Another note for consideration is the viability of each director. Of the two Scott is arguably the more experienced, talented and capable director, however, Scott has stated that Alien: Covenant was produced in reaction to social media negativity towards Prometheus and despite their prominent roles in Covenant Scott believes the 'Morphs' to no longer be viable as the series antagonist. Meanwhile, despite his relative inexperience Blomkamp has repeatedly stated that he is an avid fan of and holds great love for the franchise. The final factor we should all consider is the future. In this we have to be blunt, Scott recently turned 80, whereas Blomkamp recently turned 38. As such, Blomkamp's youth makes him a worthy investment for the Alien franchise, with Scott posing a much greater risk.

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Which brings us to our deliberation. Can we trust Scott to hastily direct another prequel movie that will again feature David as the prime antagonist with the Xenomorph likely making a poorly executed cameo appearance, which will spoon feed fans unnecessary answers to mysteries that will likely fail to live up to fans high expectations? Conversely, Can the relatively inexperienced Blomkamp be trusted to deliver on the promises of his concept art and direct a worthy sequel to Aliens that will reinvigorate and unify the widely divided fanbase. Although we may have our reservations, it would appear that Blomkamp's vision may be what the Alien franchise needs regardless of whether or not it is what the fanbase actually wants. The director's recent work at his newly founded OAT Studios shows a growing maturity in his work, which together with his well-publicized love for the series could be the deciding factor if Disney decides in Blomkamp's favor.

However, there is a third option. Rather than having to choose between either Scott or Blomkamp, why is not possible for the two to put their differences aside and work together. With Blomkamp directing and Scott as executive producer could Blomkamp's proposed sequel to Aliens not return to LV-426 as his concept art suggests. Instead, with LV-426 totaled in Aliens we could instead find Ripley, Hicks, and Newt on LV-223, Planet 4 or even Origae-6. One would imagine the latter would likely have become a Weyland-Yutani research outpost following the transmission David sent them detailing the Xenomorph in Covenant's closing scenes and in the movies post-marketing video titled "The secrets of Davids Lab: the Engineers" (above). Weaver, Biehn, and Carrie Henn (Newt) could be joined by Michael Fassbender as David, with the planet having become a graveyard following David's unseen confrontation with the Engineers, with only David having survived, possibly hiding in an Engineer hypersleep pod having maybe become mortal from too much exposure to the Black Pathogen.

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Ati
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I'd like to see both of them, all of them.

I want to see Scott's final chapter of the Alien prequels, and Blomkamp's vision as well.

I want Scott's war movie, and I like Blomkamp's traditional robots very much, so... Disney, give them to us!

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Ditto what Ati said :)

 

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I.Raptus
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 4th option. BigDave is Executive Producer for both projects

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Bloomkamp could give it a go as long as he doesn't mess with A3 or AR. If he can't, he could do an Isolation scenario.

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I have had a bit to drink so please forgive me if i come across the wrong way or ranting ;)

I respect everyone has their own opinion but i think a Blomkamp Alien 5 would be a pile of horse poop lol, well would be no better than The Last Jedi, however Xenos and Ripley could well please Fanboys and make $$$$ and i think this is the route thats likely taken, that ultimately cremate the beast not cook it, ignore the Engineers or make them less significant than Snoke... and just be a Ripley Saga...  even spanning a few sequels with her Power Loader and Blue Badge for Parking (UK fans would get the Mobility Joke).

i think Ridley Scott was RIGHT only he had not covered the Xeno link enough, distanced himself too far, to concentrate and set up a BIGGER Plot, then backed down to FOX and Fanboys and disregarded the Bigger Plot to Spoon Feed the Xenomorph but in a way that did it NO justice.

The Franchise is a Mess...

Doing a Blomkamp would discredit Alien  3 and Alien R, give Miss Weaver a ever growing PAY CHECK (who is so over rated anyway).  And Overcook the Xenomorph... We need something NEW...

Sadly the Franchise is Split and the ALIEN Universe will always be considered about the Xenomorph.. which to a degree is RIGHT, but then the SPACE JOCKEY is Alien too, and the Engineers had potential.

The Problem now is a case of RIPLEY or DAVID and i just dont think either is the RIGHT path.... the Engineers is the PATH to take IMO

We need Closure and i think if Disney had the BALLS and took the risk, we need a Alien Covenant PT3 that bypasses Part 2 to draw us to ALIEN and we need a ALIEN 5 set after Alien Resurrection, or another Alien movie set Parallel to Aliens in a distant place or visiting Planet 4 or another Engineer World.

i dont think more than ONE more David Movie would work, and i can only see ONE more Ripley movie as being Harmful.

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I think right now the Prequels leaves the following unanswered... Even if we now accept David is the Creator.

*How does David and his TWO Face Huggers lead to Thousands of Eggs, that end up being on LV-426, which by coincidence is close to LV-223 and we can assume is NO-WHERE near Origae-6 and his Creation ends up on a Engineer Ship?

*Is the Derelict the only ship to have attempted to transport Davids creation?

*What becomes of Planet 4 by the time of Aliens or on-wards?

*What becomes of LV-223 by the time of Alien and on-wards?

*What becomes of Origae-6 by the time of Alien/Aliens?

*What becomes of the Engineers and Hierarchy by the time of Alien/Aliens?

*How vast is the Engineers Creations on other Worlds and had they only attempted to use the Black Goo on Earth?

Then we also have to ponder.

*What happened on Earth/the Company between Aliens and Alien R regarding the Synthetic  Uprising and Sub-creating the Autons.

*What becomes of Ripley 8 and any Xeno DNA related Experiments or Material never mind Engineer Tech after the events of ALIEN Resurrection?

All of these are potential to be explored...

We need closure to how those Eggs got on the Derelict more than Resurrect Ripley and Eggs and Queens while discounting Alien 3 on-wards.

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Why would Blomkamps Alien 5 work? or Fail?

Because Fanboys love Aliens and Miss Weaver thinks Ripley never had a good ending (despite requesting for her to killed off) end of the Day Miss Weaver wants a Pay Check!!! But indeed Xenomorphs are still quite cool if not scary anymore.

Yet what does this offer NEW? can we go a Alien 5, then Alien 6 and keep the same Xenomorphs?

Why would a Prequel to Alien Work/Fail

We need closure, once we opened the Pandoras Box about the Xenomorph especially by going the Spoon Fed AC route, we cant abandon it...  It needs a answer, but it needs to also bring in something more ALIEN because and especially since AC the Engineers are no longer as awe inspiring as the Space Jockey.

The Engineers are something to expand upon, the various ways the Black Goo can give us more Xenomorph like Creations etc etc.

The whole David Creation has taken the Prequels to be more about him, than the Engineers and the Biological Warfare and Experiments they had been involved in.  The Prequels lacked that ALIEN feel as far as Engineers and Alien like Monsters on the attack.... The Neomorphs, Deacon were all decent, they just never had the same hunting and killing effect that we saw in Alien, Aliens and Alien 3 and so it was more a Alien R.

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Can the writers at alien-covenant.com PLEASE stop using the term 'titular xenomorph antagonist' in every post they write! 

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I think we cant avoid the Xenomorph,  now they attempted to showcase HOW and WHEN and WHY they have to carry though... i personally think the Universe is bigger than the Xenomorph which is no more to the Engineers than Mankind discovering Gunpowder and then Evolving Weapons based on this.

Its why i think what can a Blomkamp Alien 5 add?  Answer NOTHING... A AVP Reboot would be better than a Resurrect the Queen and Ripley and Piss all over the prequels and Alien 3/Alien R

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The Question we ULTIMATELY have to ask is what is ALIEN about ALIEN?

Ripley?  Nope.. but her Story was interesting and came to the ideal conclusion in Alien 3

The Xenomorph? Yes, but after Alien 3 it needed something Fresh, which AR attempted but it had to Shoehorn Ripley back into it...  

The Company?  Nope!

The Space Jockey?  100% YES, but the way it was dealt with was flawed, and AC further toned down the Alien-ness of the Space Jockey... David Creating the Xenomorph is on one hand interesting but on another tones down the Engineers and makes them less ALIEN.

The Answers are in HR Gigers Concept Works....  and the Question, WHY are/would Bald Humanoid looking beings Self Sacrifice themselves for various Xenomorph related Organisms to Procreate and Spread?  WHY?

These beings did not appear ALIEN enough.... but the Question WHY could become something very Sinister and ALIEN

 

 

 

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The Neomorphs, Deacon were all decent, they just never had the same hunting and killing effect that we saw in Alien...

BigDave you are correct on that for sure!  The Deacon was more of a fan service for Prometheus and is thus a loose end and a enigma. 

To me the Neomorph's have potential as a future antagonist to offer a different perspective to the Xenomorph as a predator. The classic Xenomorph is indisputably an apex predator. A pure hunter and killer. 

The Neomorphs can offer a different and fresh threat that compliments the Xenomorph. Acting more as a meso-predator the Neomorph can be more of a chaotic pack-hunter rather than the formidable but solitary hunter Xeno.

But the big difference I have proposed a few times is a new dangerous reproductive cycle. When a Neomorph dies their cadavers could produce spore pods rendering any Neomorph death a new threat and a contaminated environment. Much like the Xeno acid, even in death they pose a threat. In essence Neomorph are shock troopers. They invade, sow chaos, break defences, and then every time they die they have a new foothold to invade from. 

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Indeed thats interesting IRaptus and its something i covered in my Xeno Eggs/Cabbage post from over a year ago, where a Cabbage (cabbage patch looks like the Xeno Eggs on the Derelict) can Clone Itself from dead Material, a Cabbage thus never dies, it regrows...

When RS said the Xenomorph in AC killed by the Lander would Regenerate, this sounded a bit Stupid, but not if from its Genetic Material Egg Spores Grow and so the Neomorph route you describe fits this.

As for the Deacon, it was kind of Fan Service, but it was more so the peice of the PUZZLE to show how the Xenomorph was connected, it was saying "look this crap the Engineers have been storing and experimenting on in those Vases, under certain circumstances creates a Hybrid Face Hugger that creates a Hybrid Xenomorph"

Thus showing the Black Goo is connected to the Xenomorph, the Xenomorph either was the Origin of what came in those Urns or it was a Evolution of something that came from those Urns, or the Xenomorph and the Black Goo Share another Common Ancestor.

The clues were there...

RS then even told us the Xenomorph Originated from LV-223 but this event (Space Jockey) was a within a few hundred years of the LV-223 Outbreak, while this is Ambigious...

It left TWO answers.

1) The Xenomorph was something taken to LV-223 that lead to the Mural and Experiments that became the Black Goo.  And thus a few hundred years after the Derelict the Engineers had killed themselves off by experimenting on those Eggs.

2) The Xenomorph Evolved from something that happened after the Black Goo Outbreak.

But alas... Prometheus was not Spoon Fed so FOX decided to Spoon Feed it only thrown in the David Curveball.

 

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I also would like to see both movies. However, Ridley Scott's one shouldn't be David's origin story, as Gavin seems to suggest. I strongly believe that the focus on David in "Alien Covenant" was due to the fact that he was the strongest character in Prometheus, and because the rest of the sci-fi elements in the script were so bland and unoriginal. I think David's being overused was more like a filler: he functioned as a contrived villain. Ridley Scott needs to continue to expand on his story: downsizing is not a choice right now. The Engineers need to be redeemed: they cannot be just some dumb dudes annihilated by the sub-creation of their creation. That is just lame and nonsensical.

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BigDave

"The Answers are in HR Gigers Concept Works....  and the Question, WHY are/would Bald Humanoid looking beings Self Sacrifice themselves for various Xenomorph related Organisms to Procreate and Spread?  WHY?"

Well that is the most interesting question for me too, but sadly neither of these movies would explore. Sir Scott's next movie will be most likely the fall of David and just that. So sincerely, on what we know now, neither movie is very compelling (nor is a reboot).

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At this moment in time I am at a point where someone may detect some blood in my alcohol stream, and I am capable of fully recharging a nicorette.

I often read through many posts, ideas and proposals, but I lurk in the background most often due to limited availability of time to compose appropriate responses.

Well tonight’s your lucky night! Grab yer coat cos you’ve pulled!

I personally hold Neill Blomkamp totally responsible for the underperformance of AC. ( Let that sink in for a few moments of your time)

Right now Neill is doing his Oats Studio stuff and going though some transitional stage exploring new ideas like how to create a good script that can make money on the same level as Ridley Scott, that is also effective over the duration of a full length feature film rather than an affect movie short that only You Tube reviewers will praise, and lets face it there are those reviewers who are all horn and no driveshaft anyway.

Momentarily I have to just put my head in my hands and like the Swedish chef from the Muppets utter Porg! Porg! Porg! For no reason whatsoever.

So down to business. I‘d like to say with a clear head, but knowingly know I have already undermined this premise to a certain degree. Any suggestion of Neill Blomkamp doing an Alien movie may sound a great idea after viewing District 9, but what has followed does not really prove he can pull in the big bucks. Elysium was a great effort, and somewhat under rated in my humble opinion, But I feel that Neill should be treated as a director that has not really hit the mark just yet, but is capable of doing so.

The only problem with having an alcohol induced event is that cold, left over lasagne becomes a massive distraction, hence this highly informative and somewhat irrelevant sentence, so for any further information please read again.

Finally, I will actually get to the point.

 

Everything was going great after Prometheus. Yes, there was some division amongst fans, but it was a great movie that was supposed to be pre Alien. I think some people missed some basic clues there. The word alien was not in the title, and it was a story pitched prior to alien. That sort of thing should really send out some big clues, like no xenomorph. The clue is in the title is it not?

Prometheus pulled in a tidy penny and everyone was happy. Everyone that is except good old Neill Blomkamp. Sat there looking for his moment to pounce with his riding on the wave of District 9 ego. He must have felt like a God until he produced Chappie.

And then the unthinkable happened. Just as RS was trying to create a whole new universe, Neill decides to share what he thinks was a great idea with the world.

Lets not really do anything new, lets just regurgitate old tropes and throw a different spin on it all by introducing some clever aesthetics that went down well with District 9 fans. Suddenly, RS is forced to deliver a product in the form of AC that regurgitates old tropes.

Well thanks for that Neill you great big blabbermouth. How about letting people finish their projects in hand, before interjecting and derailing what could have been a more original movie from RS.

So where does this leave us all now, thanks to Neill’s premature actions?

Let RS finish the job.

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Good points Batchpool, I agree with you.

Ridley Scott is the first one. 

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Batchpool I usually make brief comments but I need to respond since a lot happened not long after Prometheus was released.

Those are good observations. At the time, I recall then Prometheus 2 was not sounding too great to many fans- at best, things sounded vague. I felt frustrated when I got the vibe that Prometheus 2 would not tie into Alien as I interpreted it to be right around late 2012/2013. When the Alien 5 idea came out, it was exciting and I was among those rooting for it. In hindsight, I have since flipped flopped and want to see RS connect to Alien before anything else happens.

I am not sure the blame lies squarely on Bloomkamp. It seems FOX noticed and reacted to fan feedback back then and presssured RS to bring back the beast. FOX could have said- No, we will let RS do his thing. We all know how things played out.

I still like Bloomkamp's idea as long as it wouldn't mess with the established canon that is A3 and AR. He could still do a really good movie by possibly making a hybrid of Alien 5 and Alien Isolation. This could tell a story and possibly spread out WITHOUT ruining established canon.

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@ Joylitt,

The David origin angle for Ridley's next movie suggestion was for the previous article only. There are many ways the third prequel could go, here's half a dozen...

#1 - David vs Engineers vs Weyland-Yutani "War of the Worlds"

#2 - Davids origin story

#3 - Post Aliens/Resurrection Ripley travels to Origae-6

#4 - Paradise, using the neutrino blast to retcon Covenant out of continuity and give fans the original sequel (days of future past style)

#5 - The third moon orbiting Calpamos

#6 - Shaws story between Prometheus and Covenant

As for sequels post-Alien, there are almost infinite possibilities, many of which don't require retconning Alien 3 out of continuity, and as fans, we have probably each imagined at least half a dozen of those possibilities based upon what we have each taken from the franchise personally.

@ drop your linen,

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@ Batchpool,

A very fair and valid point. When Ridley said Covenant was made as a reaction to the backlash Prometheus received on social media, we all assumed comments made here, on AvP Galaxy on the HISHE video. Blomkamp's release of his concept art could be another factor and would deepen the metaphorical pissing contest between the two directors over who should lead the Alien franchise.

@ BigDave,

Showing support for Ridley is commendable, and admittedly the guy has, although probably not in the way he intended, rejuvenated interest in the franchise through continually polarizing the fanbase. And while I am not necessarily advocating Blomkamp to take over, do we really need another prequel? Do we really need to be spoonfed where the space jockey and all the eggs came from? Isn't ambiguity and mystery a better option moving forward?

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Gavin Agree- it could tie to Alien and be done and leaving some ambiguity, things for us to ponder and debate, would be a good thing. It might be possible to wrap things up if Disney might allow an additional 30 minutes of run time in the theater. AC, although very good, might have brought in more income if so much material didn't get chopped for time's sake.

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dk I Don't think Bloomkamp has done absolutely anything to try to derail RS plans for the Alien franchise. Are some people in this forum upset that he even dared to show some of his concept art?... we have to remember that Ridley Scott himself was going to be the executive producer of Alien 5. All of the drama with the Alien franchise leading to its maybe cancelled status is Ridley's own doing. Let's just take a look at some of his latest comments: http://observer.com/2017/12/ridley-scott-rips-lucasfilm-star-wars-the-last-jedi/

In this article he seems to blast younger directors and he advertises himself with these words: “You can get me for my fee, which is heavy, but I’ll be under budget and on time." Not one word about stamping his personal vision, not one word of originality nor audience satisfaction. 

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If only the narrative thread of the prequels was written with the clarity and certainty of the excellent lead article . 

Is Alien Covenant an excellent film that was misunderstood at the Box Office. No  :-

1) It was not a satisfying sequel to Prometheus.

2) It was not a successful remake of the first films structure.

3) It certainly would not satisfy ALIENS fans.

After that you get into perceived weak protocols, disengaged characters (actually the problems to many) and the construction of the suspense. I think the creature was portrayed as high camp (They say they want Aliens I will give them ....ing Aliens).

That said the excellent Bladerunner 2049 was loved by my generation, bombed and had not a millennial in sight in my viewing. I think a Prometheus 2 could have been astonishing .... and bombed. 

So Disney may look at the Scott philosophical side of the equation and .... ignore it. They may look at the pulse rifles, nam, regular characters of A's  and the inner fan boy needs and .... ignore it.... and after a very long pause with new minds new ideas bring back the universe in a fresh way that speaks to the millennials. If I was the money I would opt for the latter. I miss Prometheus 2 and the search for our creea-tors as David calls it but the rest is of no interest and in the meantime I can dwell on the rich imagery, symbolism and meaning of BR2049 when it emerges on Blu Ray.    

 

 

  

 

 

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Michelle Johnston

Look, because of his age this might have been Scott's last chance to make something unique. And he choose to be a business man not an artist and  to be "under budget and on time." and planned for endless sequels. 

And Disney has no new ideas !

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red0guy I am just crossing my fingers he finds the right script. The "under budget and on time" motto works only when you have the right material. It has to be something that makes everybody happy, including the studio, so there is no interference on their behalf.

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I’d like both but if pushed to choose, it would be Blomkamp. He clearly has a passion for the series and the fact he is a ‘fan’ shouldn’t be seen as a negative - it means he is more likely to create a film which will appeal.

As for folk slating Blomkamps resume, each of his three films pulled in good returns in respect of their budget - something Covenant with an established brand couldn’t do. And further more, both District 9 and Elysium were top notch in my opinion. Chappie is the weakest of the three however it’s not a bad film. And in fact, it had the effect on me when watching of sadness that humanity would corrupt and abuse the technology/gift the way they did to Chappie.

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I'm okay with this. 

Questions for 2018:

IF the derelict on LV426 crashed....Why was it laying perfectly flat?  It had a 50% chance of being upside down....Or at least at some odd angle.  If I was set designer and wanted to show a 'crashed' space ship, I would show the set at a slant, making it obvious to the audience that the ship crash landed. Making it hard for the explorers to navigate the Juggernaut.....(obvious this was 1979 and they were just building a set on the floor of warehouse and weren't thinking about such things) 

 

Why was Ash kept a secret from the crew of the Nostromo?!

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joylitt- All the article really says to me is "Get off my lawn".

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No quite, most likely in real life it would have disintegrated on impact, or at least damaged. But judging how the physics work around the ship as seen in Prometheus, anything goes.

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A reboot would be cool...They enter the derelict walking on the ceiling and they have to look up to see the Space Jockey! See it hanging from the ceiling/floor 40 meters above Dallas and crews heads....They might have to climb up to get a better look........*WHAM*...... Facehugged!

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Michelle Johnston I agree on all your points.

I guess the big question is:   Just who is in charge?!? Is Fox(a division of Disney)or Disney? Does the old guard still call the shots, with permission from Disney, or are they all reassigned (fired/retired)?

 

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Very wise of you to agree with me ... haha.

Goodness knows to your question but here is the thing if you make a cottage industry movie and its huge hit everyone smiles. Then in the next one you throw dollars at it and your whole modus operandi changes. The dollar tale wags the artistic dog. Hey guys we want to make a movie about the origins of mankind. Cool do not put those penis head things in their cooked. Then Neil offers his "really helpful" story boards and half the fanbase start drooling at the mouth. Hey maybe we were about hasty on the penis head so we get AC.

Thats why a very dry financial brain might say lets chill out and come up with something really fresh which is much more genuinely violent and unsympathetic. The kind of difference between the tailors dummy of Roger Moore as JB and the Jason Bourne Bond of Daniel. I hear that Amazon are gonna reboot the Tolkien franchise its odds on that the same will happen to the Alien Universe.       

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I didn't like Aliens so I would not care about Blomkamp's sequel to Aliens. He can wait...forever. 

Let Ridley Scott continue what he started. And please don't give in to fanboys, Ridley. Do it like you said: no aliens, no horror. No Ripley. 

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daliens Yes. Like you said: no aliens, no horror, no Ripley. Everything should be about a big fat check... I don't think so, daliens. These guys I follow on you youtube said in their review of "All the money in the world" that they felt the movie was directed by someone who is "going to work". That's how I felt about Alien Covenant...

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At this point I would advise Ridley Scott to let Blomkamp do his own film. It would be a sweet revenge for Scott but a waste of time for us all. Blomkamp's film cannot be any better than Alien Resurrection. That's my honest opinion.

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I blame James Cameron and his infantile bug hunt, which seems to be so appealing to some, for all this mess. And Bloomkamp is nothing but an opportunist from my point of view. Chappie ("Mommy, mommy!") is a good example of what to expect if he ever manages to direct an Alien movie. Not to mention that bringing all that Ripley/Newt/Hicks stuff back would also require loads of CGI and three strong pairs of crutches.

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And if there's no way around it and Blomkamp is to have the final word due to his connections with James Cameron (who is more than happy with the Disney/Fox deal), I would strongly suggest a brand new approach to the Alien franchise: raising Sergio Leone from the dead to direct its reboot:

 

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Why don't blame Scott himself for not sticking to that ending where the Xenomorph kills Ripley and contacts the Company? If commitment to Ripley, Hicks, newt is bad why is not to David (or any other Android played by Fassbender)?

I don't like Aliens (I like the shots from the extend version with the derelict and the silent Sulaco), but to consider that only a mindless bug hunt is a bit silly. It is a critique of gun ho attitudes (as all those marines are idiots, excepting Hicks) and corporate greed (same as the first one). Yes it is horror and in someways bombastic, and a more a more intelligent movie in the same vein is Verhoeven's Starship Troopers.

And in defence of Chappie, it more realistic for a brand new Artifical entity to behave like a toddler than a fully conscious entity whose first interaction with his creator is about death and servitude (claimming he is immortal? how does that work when in the previous movie he was decapitated and without repair he most definitely would have gone offline?).

And repeat myself for you either path (David's reign and fall or Aliens 2) is equally unimpressive for me. the most interesting thing to me would have been to explore a civilization (Engineers) in which individuals willingly sacrificed themselves to create Xenomorphs (explored already in 6 movies, some good, some bad) (as BigDave pointed regarding the discarded Giger artwork).

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And what if Scott dies while Blomkamp films his film and fails what kind of victory would that be? For whom would be that good?

 

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Ridley Scott said the engineers will return,  Daniels and Tennessee will live to see Origae 6. Davis is in control of the Covenant with 2 facehugger embryos. I would really want to know what happens next. I am not at all interested in Blomkamp's puerile story.

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As I am a Sir Ridley person, I'll stick to my guns. If I am to blame my Sir, it would only be because he left enough road to a certain James Cameron to come with his Terminator Alien Style and spoil the whole thing with a useless bug hunt.

David Fincher tried to fix things up, but then "Boo-hoo! He killed them!!! Where are my beloved Ripley/Hicks/Newt?" sort of thing.

 

Blomkamp is a Cameron turned younger, both of them are predictable - and are together, for Cameron is a Disney favorite. And, guess what! Now their dreams will come true, for Disney is in charge and the guys at Disney LOVE family predictable dreams...

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But as many people stated above, it might be a good idea if Sir Ridley stepped aside and let the clowns do what they do best: be the clowns they are, Disney branded, while the rest of us sing, "It's the end of the world as we know it!"

 

 

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Everything that does not end in a bloodbath and is not nihilistic is puerile? I don't think he can bring anything new to the table but neither does Sir Scott with his infatuation with Fassbender, and nothing new will be explained about the engineers, they will only fight David and that's it.

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You do realize however that Cameron movies make a lot of money and Scott's prequels suffer from diminishing returns. "Blomkamp is a Cameron turned younger ... and are together", so this a conspiracy now? And the story of Alien 3 has nothing to do with Fincher and he even disowns that movie.

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