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Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011From Poster: "Hilton" @ Comic Book Movie.com
“Prometheus” is on the way, and I’ve been doing some thinking. (Yes, dangerous, but I’ve still been doing it).
It’s a prequel, of course, but how exactly will it set the stage for “Alien” or any of the following movies in the series?
I have some theories based on what I’ve read on the web and gleaned from the trailer. Some of what I’m going to write is already out there, but some of it’s going to be what I came up with when I pondered the plot and the origins of the xenomorph creatures who’ve popped up in all the “Alien” movies that have followed over the years.
According to the Wikipedia page, James Cameron, director of “Aliens,” had worked on a story for a prequel that would tell us the origins of the xenomorphs but changed his mind when he found out “Aliens vs. Predator” was being made. He figured that movie would ruin the franchise.
Then Ridley Scott, director of “Alien” and “Blade Runner,” decided he’d take a crack at the prequel. But he didn’t just want to tell the xenomorphs’ origin story. He wanted to tell the origin story of the Space Jockey alien too. You remember the Space Jockey, don’t you? That’s the nickname people gave to the skeletal remains of who or whatever that creature was the explorers of the Nostromo discovered in “Alien.” Some humanoid guy’s skeleton lied in a chair with its ribs broken outward, and he seemed larger in size than a normal human person.
Scott said in later interviews that he was surprised no other filmmakers of the “Alien” series had explored this creature. But now, presumably, he’ll do that with “Prometheus.” The movie will delve into this alien race’s civilization and the role that race played in humanity’s development. The Space Jockey’s race could be the makers, or helpers, of our way of life, or at least, that’s whom they will be with Scott in the director’s chair.
Scott plans to delve into the origins of the xenomorphs, mankind, more about the Space Jockey’s world, and to do it all while creating a scary sci-fi action movie.
If the Space Jockey’s race created the xenomorphs and us, too, then what was their point? Why create a bunch of vicious insectoid creatures that kill people left and right? What’s the point?
I’m not sure, but I’m wondering if the name “Prometheus” has a clue. For those of you who are up on your Greek mythology, Prometheus was a Titan who stole fire from the gods and gave it to humans. He taught us how to use fire, which allowed us to take our civilization to newer heights. The gods got mad at him for doing this, though, and punished him by binding him to a rock for all eternity while an eagle ate his liver. The liver grew back over and over again, and the eagle would eat it every time, so Prometheus suffered endlessly.
In the film “Prometheus,” the ship the explorers travel in has the same name, so the meaning could be metaphorical.
What if the Space Jockey in this film was responsible for creating humans against the wishes of the other members of his race? They could have punished him, and us, by creating the xenomorphs as biological agents of our destruction. Maybe humans are creatures who weren’t supposed to be made, or perhaps we advanced so much that our creators were unhappy, so they decided to get rid of us by tossing xenomorphs at us. Perhaps that’s what the Space Jockey, or others like him, were creating in the “Prometheus" plot before the explorers landed on the planet. The Space Jockey we see in “Alien” could be the Space Jockey from this film, living out his punishment at the order of his brothers and sisters because he helped humanity progress too far.
That’s just my theory, but I wouldn’t be surprised if the humans in “Prometheus” are merely pawns in a much larger plot between alien beings who aren’t the xenomorphs at all. They're the xenomorphs’ “makers,” and ours as well.
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Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011i was actually just reading that today.....does'nt bring anything new to the table tho?....just more speculation!

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011I do not ever remember Scott even hinting at this...
"Scott plans to delve into the origins of the xenomorphs"
Or this...
"The Space Jockey we see in “Alien” could be the Space Jockey from this film, living out his punishment at the order of his brothers and sisters because he helped humanity progress too far."
But you are absolutely right, and it's all speculation.

Juxtapose
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011interesting speculation none the less!....their has been so many theories....i cannot keep up anymore!....lol....cause the plot could go a thousand different ways!

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011you said it man
and I have to say In way I am annoyed by it, even though I myself am a contributor, and my reasoning is I love and trust in Scott's abilities as a Director.
I am also tuned into the fact that every single person that ever works with him says they absolutely love the guy and that he brings out the best in actors in particular.
I am aware as well that for every single film he directs he hand draws a story board for every single scene in each of these films.
This is a man with an enormous sense of integrity and pride for his work and the work of those he surrounds himself with.
This is man who's best primary talents lay in his ability to take the unbelievable and make it believable as well as exciting to see.
I am FLABBERGASTED at any possible suggestion that this film will fail to deliver the goods !!!
When I read, "if he does this" or "if he does that", "I will be disappointed" I get anxious and uncomfortable inside because these are words that people use whom have a pessimistic rather than optimistic outlook on life in general. And also because it is, in and of itself, an art form, named "Selling a Ticket" to your own depression. They fully expect to be disappointed, where as, once again, I expect nothing less than to be intellectually stimulated and bombarded by some of the most exciting and fun filled images and sound enhancements in any movie to hit the big theaters in the past 33 years !!!

Reimer
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011If the Earthlings' ship IS called Prometheus it rather suggests a conscious aim of stealing higher powers on the part of the explorers' sponsors right from the off (and shrugging off the possible consequences). Will the crew be seen to ponder this? "Gee, why'd they give our vessel such a loaded, sinister name? I've got a bad feeling about this.." etc.

Gigeresque
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011Chained to a rock. SJ was "chained" to the chair. I never thought of that SJ might be The equivalent of the Greek Prometheus.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011wow
Until you just mentioned it, neither did I.
I did not see THAT connection.
Smart !!!

Gigeresque
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011Maybe the SJ aren't our makers. They are super humans that are being punished by another creator we haven't seen yet.

Reimer
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011"This is man who's best primary talents lay in his ability to take the unbelievable and make it believable as well as exciting to see.
I am FLABBERGASTED at any possible suggestion that this film will fail to deliver the goods !!!"
I'm not - remember the excitement among 'Star Wars' fans before 'The Phantom Menace', and the first, visually-impressive but hackneyed, 'Star Trek' film. It's not like Scott has done much of note in recent years. It'd be nice to be proved wrong but I'm quite prepared to look back at the discussions in these pages as better than the actual film.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011Your entitled to your opinion and it is a popular one for some reason I do not get, that said, i respect it and your right to it, BUT, I am willing to bet there will be no mention what so ever in this thing of "Jar Jar Binks" or even anything at all remotely close to that!
I also for the life of me, do not understand how anyone could have seen that trailer and not be....
"ALL JACKED UP ON MOUNTAIN DEW".
Alas, I am an optimist when it comes to films like this one.
This is ONLY the third time in the past 50 years when I have seen anything at all like this in the world of cinema.

Reimer
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011"no mention what so ever in this thing of "Jar Jar Binks""
NOW you've set me thinking...what if the SJ or the giant temple head speak with a totally ludicrous, annoying voice?

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011I'd have to accept it, but I would not like it one bit...But I hardly think Ridley is dumb enough to let that happen.

Micro changes in air density
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011I don't buy the idea of the human ship being named Prometheus. Seems daft. I do like this theory though, what if the crashed jockey ship is the prometheus. This would also tie into your theory Spartacus of a runaway jockey. It would also explain something I cant get my head around. Why, if the jockey was bent on destruction, did he set off a warning signal before he died?

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011My answer to that is this.
The ship was meant for Earth.
This poor guy {Pilot of the Derelict} was the unlucky one who drew the smallest straw LOL...and thus entrusted with the responsibility of ensuring the delivery of the Derelicts cargo to Earth...and I love this part by the way...but the ship gets intercepted by or on "The Company" and it's orders to do so...That SIGNAL was set off by the Jockey to let his fellow Engineers know that he did not make it, that things went terribly wrong on the way to earth, and so they could set it right in time.
All this time, we've all just been assuming that the signal was intended for MAN OR AS A WARNING FOR MEN, but I say it was NOT, it was intended for the Engineer's.
Oh Man am I ever good !!!
LMFAO

artyoh
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011Micro changes, the answer to your question, is that we'd do the same thing to save other humans, and there's more than enough evidence to suggest that [i]we're[/i] bent on destruction. *shrug*

AnubisChe
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011I have complete utter faith in Ridley Scott's work. These are one of those movies that you see just a short clip and know, without fail, that every dollar spent to see this film will be worth it. I know I will be venturing back to the theater just to see this again. I love a film that just leaves an impression on you. The kind of film that you think about long after you left those uncomfortable seats. Oh nevermind, I will be in VIP where drinks and leather couches are available to the paying patron.

AnubisChe
MemberOvomorph12/28/2011In response to Spart, I totally agree. The derelict was on its way to our home planet. This is explored in the comics...

Starbeast
MemberOvomorph12/29/2011I'm also of the opinion that the "derelict" was bound for Earth.
But with respect guys, I doubt Ridley gives a damn about what the comics say - or the sequels for that matter.
I'm pretty confident he is of the opinion that he answers to no one with regards to creative licence. After all, it [i]is[/i] his baby.
With that in mind, I'm certain he will deviate from the canonical xenomorph lifecycle that includes the queen xenomorph, in favour of the originally drafted lifecycle.
This of course, creates a schism in the universe, which will only serve to fragment the entire franchise further.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph12/30/2011I Look at it this way now, anyone talking about a movie this much and about such details so passionately, 6 months before it comes out knows deep down it's going to be special.
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