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Ghost Solitare

MemberOvomorphJanuary 21, 20124027 Views72 Replies
I find myself wondering why the SJ's left their calling card on Earth. If the site had been accessed by a group of vandals, it may never have benefitted mankind at all. If as in 2001 the digsite had been on the moon, it would have resolved two issues. First those who excavated it would be of sufficient technological prowess to fathom it's mysteries. Secondly, it would have been safe from both any seismic catastrophic events, or intrusion by potential (for lack of a better word) tomb robbers. Putting those questions aside I then wonder exactly what sort of vault, or chamber they will find. The sort of preservation protocols they fashioned to maintain the integrity of the contents. Like the rest of you I'm sure the film will both answer and raise even more questions. Part of what made Alien a classic film was the huge unanswered void it left as the credits rolled. I can only hope that RS adds to the franchise with even more intrigues. Just to Clarify, I know the expediton is going to Zeta Ret. I also know that they find the digsite in North Africa, or at least on a terrestrial location. I am just saying from a scientific approach as a species that wants my progeny to one day find me that I would have left the callling card, star map on Earth's satellite.
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Spartacus
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I am pretty sure most of the film tales place on "Zeta Reticuli".
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Earth and the discovery is the catalyst that sends the story into space and on the unknown plant that will spark history.
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I see you on this Ghost Solitare and yet, I don't...as far as I can gather, you may be coming at this conclusion from an angle that's just off center...I believe , and I have very little proof to back this up, but I believe what Weyland finds on earth that leads them into this expedition was not intentionally left as a marker for humanity to find and follow. There are two reasons for my feeling this way....one, my good old fashioned gut feeling. For whatever reason, I just don't get the sense we, humans, were ever meant to know about our creators/benefactors/progenators/whatever the hell they are to us. Two, there's that shot from the teaser of the medical examine table with what looks like a SJ helmet on it. [img]http://www.avpgalaxy.net/gallery/albums/movies/prometheus/trailers/normal_20111222_teasertrailer14.jpg[/img] Whomever is standing in the foreground is wearing a suit and once I realized that, the rest of that shot gave me the feeling that it takes place on earth, not aboard the Prometheus in deep space. Who the hell wears a suit in deep space? It seems like a painfully obvious question to ask, but really...do we expect Ridley to have his Company exec., probably Vickers, wear a suit way out there in deep space on this expedition?...I think no, so....it would follow that this takes place on earth and my gut tells me that a SJ wouldn't intentionally leave a helmet behind to find, something about that doesn't follow...know what I mean? Lastly, being that Shaw's an archeologist, I wonder if the helmet was simply found on some random company funded dig and...who knows under what circumstances they find. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Except as "Frantz" and "Biomechanic" and "Snorky" said, the DR. is there, And/Or an Archeologist... They Both don't examine Helmet's so that has to be a HEAD which I find difficult to believe would be examined on Earth, but rather far more likely it would be somewhere close to where it was discovered, and in this case, to me, that would be somewhere out there in deep space.
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How can it be a head when Scott has said those are suits?...Just sayin'.
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And maybe, concerning the Dr., they're just not sure exactly what it is and until they do have an idea, they approach it, in full medical gear, with the same apprehension for contamination you would in a medical situation. Why does that have to be a doctor?
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I never said it was either one. If Ridley says it's a suit it's probably a suit. I still think they would examine it whatever it is. Knowing how he likes crews that usually do what they feel (breaking quarantine, not wearing gloves, and taking their helmets off on alien worlds) I would expect one of them tries the bio helmet skull thingy on for size and walks around the ship with it.
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ok so big deal, it was Frantz and/or Snorky or someone else alltogether, but the point is they/ he whomever is 100% Dead Bang On IMO...It cannot be just a Helmet, wouldn't make even a bit of sense if it was.
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I like that idea @Biomechanic...kinda funny.
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Why wouldn't it make sense @Spartacus?
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also if you look at it properly there are 2 eye holes on it, helmets don't have eye holes like those! Even further, lets say you guys are 100% right and it's a helmet, well, the helmet would have to have come off a living thing which I would assume would be far more interesting to examine than a helmet, so where is the rest of the suit? No, that's got to be a Head !
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Because as I was saying an archeologist and a DR, with a mask would not be examining a Helmet on a hospital bed.
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Think how this works is it is a suit like our bodies are suits for our souls if that makes sense. So your eyes are just a machine that allows your soul to see in a certain perspective. If it was a biological organism based technology they should definitely take precautions. I would expect no matter what it was they would follow laboratory protocols.
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also the first line in this post/thread is this.... "I find myself wondering why the SJ's left their calling card on Earth" I need help understanding this comment, What is meant by it, where does this info come from that The "SJ left a calling card on earth", as far as I know right now, that race has never been to earth !!! That''s obviously the medical facility on board Prometheus. So I am guessing that It's an assumption to begin with that this scene is taking place on Earth which i 100% disagree with as well. All of that said, these are only my opinions and I could turn out of course to be Most Wrong !!! For me that is the fun part of it because I do not mind one bit being wrong, I always learn something new from each mistake I make. I just don't think this is going to be one of those times. Common Sense just tells me it won't be !
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I understand and respect what you are saying "Bio", and if it turns out I was wrong it would not be the first time and I am O.K. with that.
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The stormtrooper helmets in 'Star Wars' have two eye ports...don't they? And every mock helmet made for collectors has the inside set with binocular ports. I've seen them...and no I don't own one. We do know there's a beginning of time sequence at the start of the film...so it's a logical leap to suggest something left by some alien race, SJ or not, is found and leads to the Prometheus expedition. Now....I agree with you on the whole "calling card" thing. Where does that come from? I don't like it. It doesn't make any sense to me.
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I agree with what you said but the holes in this particular "helmet" don't look like helmet holes to me, they look like almost perfectly positioned eye sockets on a face.
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Also can we compare this one with that one somehow ? [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1a1helmet.jpg[/img] [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1a5-1.jpg[/img]
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If I may interject somehing, in one of my earlier posts I said that I got the feeling that the SJ figure. Representations of SJ's were like effigies to somebody out there. That they paid homage to the SJ species which for some reason had cultural significance to them. Like the figures the Aztec's and Mayans had in their temples for different dieties. If the SJ' are Gods to certain of their progeny then the suit, the statues and all the represetations you have up until now seen are copies of a being that someone, perhaps the engineers reveres. That would mean there are two distinct species. The actual SJ's, and the Engineers who for whatever reason diefy SJ's. I know far fetched.....but something isn't adding up with all the suits, figures, and one big blue bald guy. A calling card doesn't neccessarily mean they intentionally wanted us to come and find them. It's simply a slick ref for physical evidence, Like the DNA at a crime scene that leads investigators to find the perp.
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looks to me like those are veins on it's forehead in the 2nd image !

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