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MemberOvomorph01/21/2012I find myself wondering why the SJ's left their calling card on Earth. If the site had been accessed by a group of vandals, it may never have benefitted mankind at all. If as in 2001 the digsite had been on the moon, it would have resolved two issues. First those who excavated it would be of sufficient technological prowess to fathom it's mysteries. Secondly, it would have been safe from both any seismic catastrophic events, or intrusion by potential (for lack of a better word) tomb robbers. Putting those questions aside I then wonder exactly what sort of vault, or chamber they will find. The sort of preservation protocols they fashioned to maintain the integrity of the contents. Like the rest of you I'm sure the film will both answer and raise even more questions. Part of what made Alien a classic film was the huge unanswered void it left as the credits rolled. I can only hope that RS adds to the franchise with even more intrigues. Just to Clarify, I know the expediton is going to Zeta Ret. I also know that they find the digsite in North Africa, or at least on a terrestrial location. I am just saying from a scientific approach as a species that wants my progeny to one day find me that I would have left the callling card, star map on Earth's satellite.
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012Must have been a pretty big bumper !
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Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012It was abridged to:
"Did you know 98% of your DNA points to Zeta Reticuli?"
and under that was a jesus fish... Go figure.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/21/2012I just figured it all out...Tom Hanks shows up and insists everyone follow him to Italy where he takes them all inside the Sistine Chapel and to everyone's amazement they find this...
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1aliencistene.jpg[/img]

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012actually "The Guy" represents the entire Human Race but yea...exactly !

artyoh
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012On both the "mask' with the trunk and the "head" being scanned in the trailer, you can see what looks very much like cranial sutures. ( small, slightly irregular cracks forming a diamond pattern ).....yet, the "mask" includes what looks very much like a trunk ( ie: a muscle-lined tube ) Perhaps that feature is supposed to be more like bone than a fleshy appendage, or what [i]looks[/i] like a skull really isn't, but at first glance, it's a very strange juxtaposition.

Biomechanic
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012And yet again I am given a representative that doesn't represent me and is instead being influenced by lobbyists and their lavish red cloud orgies.

Spartacus
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And yet again I am given a representative that doesn't represent me and is instead being influenced by lobbyists with lavish red cloud orgies.[/quote]
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Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012[quote]On both the "mask' with the trunk and the "head" being scanned in the trailer, you can see what looks very much like cranial sutures. ( small, slightly irregular cracks forming a diamond pattern ).....yet, the "mask" includes what looks very much like a trunk ( ie: a muscle-lined tube ) Perhaps that feature is supposed to be more like bone than a fleshy appendage, or what looks like a skull really isn't, but at first glance, it's a very strange juxtaposition.[/quote]
Yea I was studying the two for that same thing but it appears on both images that the size of the diamond pattern is not the same!

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MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Zeta Reticuli is a system. not a planet. So nothing can take place "on" this.
The planetoid that is fictionally used in the films is called "Acheron" or LV-426
Just some clarification.

You have my sympathy
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012I always thought the head in the lab was in fact the one being examined by Shaw in, or near, the ampule chamber along with the SJ suit laying behind her.

Starbeast
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012The biomechanical nature of the alien technology means that it is both a skull and a helmet at the same time. The difference is that a brain doesn't go inside it, instead another head of some sort goes inside it.
You can read "find a clue to the origins of mankind on earth" as 'find a clue - to the origins of - mankind - on earth', or as 'find a clue - to the origins of - mankind on earth'. So there could be some deliberate ambiguity there: the clue itself is found on Earth? Or perhaps the clue is about mankind as far as Earth is concerned - which would entail that mankind exists in other parts of the galaxy (hence the tall blue baldy guy).

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Ok 1st of all,
Scott has stated over and over that most of this film will take place on a planet Called Zeta Reticuli, and while I agree completely that it is not a known planet, ZETA2RETICULI IS a planet, and I just assumed that this is what he meant.
2nd of all,
I did not sleep to well last night so before I go back to bed I want to tell you what I learned while I got tossed and turned though 4 1/2 hours of shut eye...
I decided that the AMPULE room HAS TO BE ON EARTH !!!
Ridley Scott has made pretty much ONLY ONE and a HALF things clear as a bell this entire past year...the fact that somewhere in this film mankind finds clues to it's origins and existence...on Earth {we're not sure because of the vagueness of this statement whether he intends for the clues to be found on Earth as well} And, that he will 100% and defnitively explore the Ancient Astronaught Theory first made popular in the TV series "Ancient Aliens"
Someone mentioned an Earth Based tribe from thousands of years ago who's writings are stenciled into the Big Giant head in the Ampule Room and on the SJ vessel as well.
The Ampule room has to be the discovery, it's gotta be on earth, also the no space helmet thing in thier, Earth has a breathable atmosphere so helmets would not be needed, and the suggestions regarding the culture of the Ancient Aliens {The Space Jockeys they must be}, is starting to sound a lot to me like an Ancient MAYAN culture too...
The expression "Calling Card" did not phase me, what did was hearing so many insist that the Space Jockeys left something ON Earth...so I thought Long and Hard about it and it makes perfect sense, STONE HENDGE and THE GREAT PYRAMID of GEEZA are the two biggest mysterious we know of On Earth...and I bet we see BOTH in this film..I bet one of them has a secret passage that leads to the Ampule Room...and it's probably the great pyramid of Geeza.
Ridley is tying the Ancient Astronaught theory from Ancient Aliens into this whole film.
This IS in fact going to be about the Origins of Mankind On Earth.
The Ampules can contain ONLY thing now to me...the Weaponized...purest original form...OF THE XENOMORPH. THEY HAVE ALREADY CONVERTED THIS CREATURE INTO A BIO MECHANICAL WEAPON THEY USE FOR TERRAFROMING...IT IS THE XENOMORPH THAT IS BIOMECHANICAL...IT IS THE XENOMORPH IN IT'S MOST INFANTILE STATE THAT IS THE CATALYST FOR THIS ENTIRE FILM.
Their Home world is Zeta2Reticlui OR they have been Harvested there by the Space Jockeys. Some crew for the Prometheus take/steal some of the Ampules from the chamber on Earth for study.
They get caught and the Space Jockeys are not pleased ONE bit about it.
They decide to whipe out the race of Humans and to Terraform their world when done.
They pack up a ship with Ampules, they are going to drop a cargo of Xeno's on earth, But on the way something happens and they end up crashing not on Earth, not on Zeta2Retuli, but LV-426...that's the very end of the movie we are seeing in the clip.
The Key is this...In an "Alien" extended scene we Heard the Alien Transmission which I have argued forever that we still do Not know 100% what it was...I think I do Now and why it was in a voice....
It is NOT an S.O.S and it is NOT a warning...it was a message in the language of the SJ's that was sent BACK TO THEM so they could find him and get that whole situation either fixed, or to decide if they need to terraform LV-426 now. Bottom line is it was in a space mans language, HIS not ours, so it had to be intended for his home world, and there is the fact that if the crew have that recording so DID MOTHER and The Company so it is HIGHLY LIKELY that the crashing Derelict we are seeing, is in fact a victim of an attack perpetrated by The Company to stop the Derelict and it's cargo from ever reaching Earth!!!
The End !!!
Works Perfectly for me !!!
This is all about the Ancient Alien theory, and the reason it turns out they aren't helping us anymore, is What the company did to their cargo ship on it's course to earth, and the act of the Prometheus crew stealing some of the Ampules.
Remember.... Prometheus was punished for Theft !!!
I love it !!!
The Ampule Room has to be on Earth at either Stonehenge or The Great Pyramid of Geeza IMO !!!
This is why I am now of the belief, that the clues to Mankind's origin are in fact found on Earth!

craigamore
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012I agree with you @Spartacus that something's found on earth...but the 40 ft. monolithic head/ampule room?...I don't know about that. Aren't they all gussied up in their spacesuits?
[img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-Logan-Marshall-Green-Noomi-Rapace-Michael-Fassbender-600x440.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/prometheus-featured.jpg[/img]
[img]http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/PROMETHEUS-Noomi-Rapace-Kate-Dickie-Michael-Fassbender-Ampule-room-600x288.jpg[/img]
and if you read the caption unde that first pic...it says 'Logan Marshall Green, Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender explore a planet in the darkest corners of the universe'...............I'm not sayin', I'm just sayin'.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Craigamore, it's underground, and the SJ's are a "Burrowing" tribe from what I have come to understand.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012it's their means of travel and of protection when in another races atmosphere.
But I like it and I like what you wrote about the caption under one of the pics
very great points...Either way I think I am getting closer to seeing where this all going !!!!

Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/22/2012My two cents on the ampule room is that it is in fact on the distant planet...
They find something on Earth (probably one of Gigers murals)
They venture to the planet and locate the temple I spotted (again, based on Gigers work)
One RT and two ATV's head to the temple.
Inside the temple they find a a well that leads them to a series of caves (gigeresque in shape)
During this time something happens to Holloways helmet and he starts to suffocate, they rush him to the entrance to the Ampule room and he starts to breath.
The caves lead them to the ampule room, where they come across the remains of a dead Space Jockey. They bag the SJ's HEAD as they also notice the big human head icon, surrounded by Ampules. They realise this is what they are here to find.
David bags an Ampule.
Beyond that I don't know until they return to their ship, whereupon a storm hits sending Shaw flying past the ships landing gear.

craigamore
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Very well thought out sumation Snorkelbottom....I love the suggestion that one of the two Giger murals Scott has mentioned is what they find on earth...very interesting.
And thanks Spartacus...either way, it's clear they find something here on earth...who knows what...we'll just have to wait and see..and I am so sick of having to write we'll just have to wait and see, wait and see, wait and see, wait and see....
I sound just like a regular parrot.
Yeah, shape up. What am I, some kind of parrot?
Right!

Gavin
MemberTrilobite01/22/2012Well there is this thread I did a while back, that shows all the temple-ampule room element from pics from the trailer, but I have since realised that Holloway doesn't become the mutant...
[url=http://www.prometheus-movie.com/community/forums/topic/423]???Prometheus???[/url]

PerfectOrganism2
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Maybe Ridley would have them (whomever it is in the foreground) wearing the suit in deep space as a way of pulling rank. dont forget, this isn't the Nostromo where they were all more or less the same, engineers, truckers, etc. I'm pretty sure that whoever is in charge of our first (probably) foray into deep space to uncover our origins and find extra terrestrial life, would be in full regalia to keep the grunts and lower workers in understanding of who is running this shinndig and whose money they using.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012great point man, the question of that suit and of the helmet or head is sticking out like a sore thumb now!

PerfectOrganism2
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012sorry Sparty, just read your theory and it's outstanding. you don't work for Ridley do you? lol

The High Priest
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012@Spartacus
Hey dude - I think your info is wrong regarding Zeta2Riticuli - -That is the SYSTEM that LV 426 is in. Far as I knew its not a planet - its the system.

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012Yes, and thanks and i was just relaying what I believe was the way Ridley said it and Yes I am not familiar with the details as much as you guys "fo sho" but I do know it is a star system and there are some planets there so one of them should be the one Ridley must be referring to right?

Spartacus
MemberOvomorph01/22/2012he may have even meant LV-426 then...so like I said
WE NOW KNOW WHAT WE ARE SEEING IN THE TRAILER IS THE SHIP CRASHING ON GOOD 'OLE LV-426
WELL DONE GENTLEMEN !!!
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