Blade Runner Connection?

I wondered about that, but based on the fact that Weyland refers to the artificial humans in 2023 as almost passable to humans, does help the idea. 'Bladerunner' is in 2019 and the replicants are entirely passable as humans...you need an eye test to determine theirreality versus artificiallity......so I think its a no go.

i agree with Lindelof....Bladerunner is a action movie that cover big thoughts ( soul , ethic , progress ) , Alien ( imo ) is a movie about the fear of unknown and reacting to it . They will surely try to mix the genres like lindelof said ( big thoughts + actions ) but i hope they will not mix the universes because they will risk really to destroy both movies . Are different movies , are different meanings ...lets keep them separated .

Isn't the existence of Jones the cat kinda proof enough it doesn't take place in the Blade Runner universe where animals are all but extinct? Like to have a real cat it would cost you millions and millions of dollars....[this was only hinted at in the movie but is all over the book].

Good point @Shane

i do find it a bit of a shame that somehow the Tyrell Corporation could not have worked it's way into this clip, which would FINALLY / OFFICIALLY connect the ALIEN world to the Blade Runner world and FINALLY / OFFICIALLY put and END to Cameron's "Hyperdyne" bullshit ah well...

Maybe Jonesy [b]is[/b] - as Parker would say - 'a goddamn robot!' which would sit well with Blade Runner. But given that the continuity issue highlighted above is so obvious it is almost unequivocally deliberate to thwart those who wish for a direct Blade Runner tie-in. It's hard to understand the thinking of the director and writers and even the studio. It seems counter-intuitive to me.

As BLADERUNNER still seems very 'futuristic' in many ways, it's a pity it's been 'dated' as being set in 2019 in the first place... Personally, I wish Ridley had [u]removed[/u] the date altogether for his 'Final Cut' of the movie. If the date had been removed, then the exact same 'purge' display would then have then seemed to 'truly' tie the 2 movies together somewhat. But as things stand, it's highly implausible that the same 'purge' graphic would have been incorporated into the 'Nostromo' which was constructed so many, many years later than the events of BLADERUNNER. And anyway, I hadn't thought of the 'Cat' issue before, until Shane brought it up...so that really puts a spanner in the works too, as far as these movies supposedly being in the 'same universe'. However, I'll be curious to see if Ridley eventually tries to 'mix and match' his 'Replicants' and 'Androids' in his BLADERUNNER follow-up, regardless of these facts...

As BLADERUNNER still seems so marvellously 'futuristic' in many ways, I really wish it hadn't been dated as occurring in 2019... I'd have preferred it if Ridley Scott had removed the date altogether from his 'Final Cut' release of the movie. Oh well. I remember thinking in the past that ALIEN and BLADERUNNER could be imagined as occurring in the 'same universe' due to having the same 'purge' display appearing. But when I found out that the 'Nostromo' was supposedly built so many, many years after 2019, I realised it was highly implausible that the exact same (BLADERUNNER) 'purge' graphic would be used when they built it's systems. If the date had been removed, then it might have seemed plausible, although I'd have expected the 'Androids' of ALIEN and ALIENS to have been referred to as 'Replicants' instead. However, as Shane has pointed out, 'Jonesy' the cat kinda puts paid to the notion that these movies co-habit the 'same universe'...unless 'replicating' animals has become a lot less cheaper by the time of ALIEN's events, lol. However, I'm kinda curious if Ridley will try to 'mix and match' his 'Replicants' and 'Androids' for his BLADERUNNER follow-up, regardless.

The Replicant was not an android. It was a biological organism with a preprogrammed lifespan. It died of accellerated decrepitude after four years due to it's designers fear that it would develop cognizant ideas that were not in keeping with their assigned duties. The discussion between Roy Batty and Tyrell telling him the fatal outcomes of attempting to use different gene therapies to extend his life span should have illustrated this for you.

Indeed, but I was meaning that if Ridley tries to do a BLADERUNNER follow-up in the 'same universe' as ALIEN is set [i](which I seem to recall he hinted at somewhere recently)[/i] , then 'mixing and matching' both 'Replicants' and 'Androids' as [u]two[/u] seperate types of 'artificial humans' would help to tie things in better with the ALIEN movies, rather than only using 'artificial humans' that are the biological 'Replicant'-type... On the other hand, he may go down the route of focusing solely on the 'Android'-type this time, as the 'Replicant'-type program possibly came to a literal dead end due to it's inherant biological constraints, and the death of Tyrell. Or, the biological 'Replicant' program could be little-known to others in the 'same movie universe', whereas more basic 'Androids' are relatively commonly known about...so I guess Ridley could still focus on a follow-up about 'Replicants' again after all, while still fitting into the ALIEN-verse adequetly. Time will tell.

I'll buy Jonesy being a repli-cat.

Yeah I don't really by the cat thing[I prefer Jones to be a real cat], and I think connecting alien and blade runner is in the top 10 silliest things you could do with that series beyond writing AvP back in. People seem to need to tie everything together in bows. I prefer them as different dark worlds. No need to have them connected at all.

Hey! I'm no repli-cat, I'm all real-cat me!!

sacrillidge, Jonesy is the true god of everything.........................

My ginger moggy is called jonesy he's just had a sex change cost me fortune at the vets he has a blockage due to crystals in his pee and had to have his nadgers removed bless him he's just undergone a urethrostomy poor thing still like jonesy in alien he's a survivor.

Well, say that Ridley *does* try to tie-in both movies eventually, and the cost of BLADERUNNER's 'artificial' animals is *still* very expensive come the time of ALIEN...then I guess it could be a 'consession' on behalf of 'The Company' to allow such an expensive item to be issued along for the 'Nostromo' crew's journey, to help with their overall 'well-being'. Either that, or they are as 'cheap as chips' to produce by ALIEN's time...

i honestly think all this talk of a merger of alien and blade runner has been taken out of context i feel the examples given where it was said merely refer to tonal qualities in the films aesthetic nothing more . Of course i could be wrong but alcon seem to have their own ideas where to go with a blade runner sequel / prequel and for me these things are better if they exist seperate and uncluttered by story restrictions and canon from other franchises and mythology.

If there were a sequel to this film, and indeed I'd like a glimpse into a universe where you have Kick Murder Squads, Masterful and manipulative Standard Pleasure Models, organic chemistry spouting soldiers, and multilingual street slang, it should be revisioned by it's creators. Were the offworld coloneys in the solar system? What was the Tannhauser gate, and was Orions Arm in the constellaton of Orion? It's like smelling something delicious yet never really tasting it.

Blade runner is the jewel in my film crown i feel so entrenched in that universe i would hate for that more than any other film to be bastardised but a film that explores the off world colonies would be great.

Indeed@altered state. It is a film that doesn't need a rewrite just another stroll through it's damp neon lit avenues. I would be curious to know who donned the mantle for Tyrell Industries after his untimely demise. I have a notion that he downloaded all that he was into a Nexus 7 which would be brought online in the event of his death.

I just bought the book the making of blade runner by paul m sammon a great read for that films enthusiasts. I still got the 5 dvd unopened collection with the ltd edition number deckard brief case. i just cant bring myself to open it so i'm buying the separate edition in a standard metal case just to watch. The ltd edition is staying put with the cellophane still on it .

I find it superccol to imagine BR and Alien sharing timeline, but not necessarily with direct interconnection..

I re-watched the special extended and remastered director's cut about 10 days ago twice...and YES Bladerunner is still a heck of a film, but now...I find it infifnitely boring to watch! I do not realy know whay though...I love Rutger, have always loved Sean Young, I love Ridley Scott, I loved the ideas in it, I loved the Woman {had a big crush on her for many years} that Ford's character shoot's to death} But Now, today, I find BLADERUNNER completely void of any realy exciting scenes. It's all, it's magic that is, in the dialogue or the script and not the actual visuals that made it such a masterpiece I feel.

for me its visual eye candy, emotional resonance, and the best soundtrack ever. i love it and i always will its poetic, its stunning to look at, the turmoil he goes through for the sake of his job and his sou,l and of course the fact he may indeed be a replicant himself. The way his eyes light up like all the artificial life in the film and the message the film delivers for me its bliss on celluloid. As Guillermo del Toro said its pure cinema.

the Tron Legacy by Daft Punk soundtrack is highly addictive, too..;)

I can dig it "AS." I respect that.

I am Curious, Are "Kane77" and "Cain1977" the same guy???