SJ Ship is the Derelict

Looks like I got in on this one late. Here's my 2 cents. It supports the following viewpoints: (ie: Mine, Snork's, Ridley's, and common sense). 0. Mine: I've always said it was the same derelict and it was LV-426. Either that, or the SJ's are terrible pilots. 1. Story beats. If you know anything about screenwriting (Snork does), there are 15 story beats (+/-) in a typical script/screenplay that happen at very specific times for very specific reasons that drive the story forward. No writer would take the chance of confusing their audience with a second crash of a second derelict/boneship (love that descriptive!) on a second planet or the same one (LV-426). It's just not gonna' happen... "that" script would never have been greenlit. 2. If the "boneship" truly is bio-mechanic (like the SJ's) and we already have evidence of that in the new trailer: "Prometheus are you seeing this? The ceiling, it's changing!" (or something like that)... then said boneship/pilots/engineers/whatever will constantly have the ability to "morph" throughout their respective life-cycles until the point of death. At which time, they are "frozen in time at their state of death". In other words, they become the original derelict and SJ (that the Nostromo crew discovers)... dead and therefore no longer able to change. Hence the whole: "The rooms look different" argument is moot. They (rooms) may actually be morphing as the Prometheus crew explores them! 3. I do believe the earlier post about the mirror images from the first and second trailers is correct. If you pay close attention to the 3 "vagina-like holes" on the boneship, you'll notice the mirror-image argument makes sense... but then there's that nagging "plumper" look to the boneship in the newer images... hmmm... see 2. above. 4. "The derelict would surely be destroyed after the Prometheus crashes into it and it comes crashing down on planet X (ie: LV-426)". No it would not. Not if it is bio-mechanical in nature. As a matter of fact, before it "dies" (of "internal" injuries?), it could theoretically repair itself. Think of smashing a crystal chandelier into a flying dragon, the chandelier would break apart and be destroyed (Prometheus)... and the dragon might be hurt... but it would land and not explode. 5. Ridley's new interview in the Empire article. Read it before you decide to tell anyone else what Ridley intended. It's all right there in black and white... at least as much as he wants to reveal.

Looks like I got in on this one late. Here's my 2 cents. It supports the following viewpoints: (ie: Mine, Snork's, Ridley's, and common sense). 0. Mine: I've always said it was the same derelict and it was LV-426. Either that, or the SJ's are terrible pilots. 1. Story beats. If you know anything about screenwriting (Snork does), there are 15 story beats (+/-) in a typical script/screenplay that happen at very specific times for very specific reasons that drive the story forward. No writer would take the chance of confusing their audience with a second crash of a second derelict/boneship (love that descriptive!) on a second planet or the same one (LV-426). It's just not gonna' happen... "that" script would never have been greenlit. 2. If the "boneship" truly is bio-mechanic (like the SJ's) and we already have evidence of that in the new trailer: "Prometheus are you seeing this? The ceiling, it's changing!" (or something like that)... then said boneship/pilots/engineers/whatever will constantly have the ability to "morph" throughout their respective life-cycles until the point of death. At which time, they are "frozen in time at their state of death". In other words, they become the original derelict and SJ (that the Nostromo crew discovers)... dead and therefore no longer able to change. Hence the whole: "The rooms look different" argument is moot. They (rooms) may actually be morphing as the Prometheus crew explores them! 3. I do believe the earlier post about the mirror images from the first and second trailers is correct. If you pay close attention to the 3 "vagina-like holes" on the boneship, you'll notice the mirror-image argument makes sense... but then there's that nagging "plumper" look to the boneship in the newer images... hmmm... see 2. above. 4. "The derelict would surely be destroyed after the Prometheus crashes into it and it comes crashing down on planet X (ie: LV-426)". No it would not. Not if it is bio-mechanical in nature. As a matter of fact, before it "dies" (of "internal" injuries?), it could theoretically repair itself. Think of smashing a crystal chandelier into a flying dragon, the chandelier would break apart and be destroyed (Prometheus)... and the dragon might be hurt... but it would land and not explode. 5. Ridley's new interview in the Empire article. Read it before you decide to tell anyone else what Ridley intended. It's all right there in black and white... at least as much as he wants to reveal.

Thanks db

OR... here is food for thought for you... How about DUAL acts of self-sacrifice?? The SJ's are nothing more than the "Blue Meanies" disgruntled DELIVERY BOYS and take an example from Janek and DELIBERATELY crash this OTHER Jockey vessel on LV426 which is NOT the Prometheus world in order to SAVE US from a final mission assigned to it by the "Blue Meanies" whos civilaztion seems to have been obliterated by something we have not seen yet. I am starting to come around to the idea of the Xeno being nothing more than a fail-safe bio-weapon but I am thinking everyone is confusing the idea that the SJ's are in fract the "bosses" when I am now really seeing them as nothing more than slaves to the "Blue Meanies".

Blue meanies lol I'm all for a good theory but unfortunately I'm struggling with yours, as I see no evidence to support it.

"evidence" hahaha snork. Well c'mon its not like there is any real evidence on this yet... We are are just sprouting thoughts. I alwyas go back to that beautiful shot of the Nostromo approaching the system from 1979 (Not bad for 70's optical effects by the way) We clearly see a very large planet with at least 3 smaller moons orbiting in close proximity. Some have obvious colours, which I suppose is trying to indicate that they may be some form of atmosphere/life on them... but 2 of them appear to lifeless whitish or dark grey moons. I always envisoned LV426 as one of the small dark moons and that Prometheus lands on one of the LARGER ones... maybe even the giant planet itself... I mean its obviously flying through a mostly bluish sky atmosphere with huge atmospheric cloud like formations on its descent in the trailers.

Further... the "Derelict" on LV426 is clearly flat on the ground surrounding by jutting, craggy rock formations. The SJ vessel in Prometheus appears to crash mostly on a flat plain. Even if one goes for a doomsday theory where the God's blew up the planet so to speak, who does that explain how the "evidence" of virtually everything else is GONE, that the whole topography of the landscape has changed and that this one particular vessel was still able to go through all that without getting destroyed??? Its not the the SJ vessel is an any way particularly tough... I mean, some "earth steel" was able to knock it down.

Frankly....this a particular issue with which I have finally reached total speculative overload..................I am reserving judgment for June 8th because I honestly can't lean either way anymore.....I see it both ways and feel like we're arguing semantics...........

And heres another thought... Shaw alone, enters the crashed SJ vessel to do battle with whatever. After an epic struggle, she overcomes her foe, but is mortally wounded. She dies thinking that she has at least saved mankind... and the audience thinks... oh..ok.. I guess thats it. The camera view slowly pulls out from the interior view, as slowly begins to pan across the landscape as we the audience follow along... now ominous tones.... we are still in the general vicinity of the silos and temple, but in the completely opposite direction. The camera stops, angles slightly to reveal the landscape seems to be "moving". We the audience now realize that ANOTHER underground ship bay is opening up and that many, ANOTHER Jockey vessels is risiing up out of the ground.... The sounds of engines roaring... slow lift off.. slow fade to black with ominous score... END SCENE. Hahahaha. And what of the "REAL DERELICT" and what happens to it??? Well thats the "sequel" to dah "pre-quel" doncha know. :)

@ craigamore - I wholeheartedly agree, come June we will know one way or another.