Space Jockey head/helmet?

But as many have already also pointed out, WAY TO SMALL to be a "real" Jockey as we think of them.

If the Engineers utilize Biomechanical tech then the object on the medical desk could be both. By this i mean both a head as part of a body and also a helmet, if this is the case then if separated from the body it would die which could be why it looks like bone....i think you can make out what looks like the joining lines as bone plates meet between the things eyes. Also it could still be a helmet and thats where the big blue guys come in.......it would be cool if these suits roam about un-occupied running off some simple instincts given by there builders. What if the pic of the dead Jockey and head is just that and they just fragged him and are looking at its head and trying to figure out if its a mask or a head?? " there's nothing in it man ? " " what are you talking about it, you saying the 13 foot Alien i just decapitated is an empty suit" " well yeh look theres a big hole inside it?" " ok who was driving it then ?" " We should go, right now! " " I think you're right just pick it up and put it in this black mesh bag" " you pick it up !" " you shot it, im holding the bag, pick it up and lets get the f@*k out of here" sorry got a bit carried away there

Well the size can be explained. Here someone posted this. [img]http://cdn.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/David-and-Alien-698x351.png[/img] Now thats David in the centre, behind and to the left is what looks like our Blue Bald Guy again but he is bigger than David yet in the distance so potentially if he was in the centre with David he would be much larger. Like 10ft tall. The Movie draws some links with the Titans, it shows Sumerian and Egyptian Tablets. Now all of those beleaf systems had not a God but Gods and these Gods looked like Man just double our height. I think thats the connection Ridley is trying to make.

And... sort of OT rambling here... What is going on in that dead body scene.. Looks like a last stand from a determined Temple defender? (appears to have huge doorways that something has knocked down??)

Yes thats a interesting thing, you see it shows what must be a Jockey with his Head Cut Off maybe? (by head as in Head with Helmet on). It would take some kind of beast to decapatate a 10ft Humaniod. Or could the Head not be off just Helmet Fell off, if so how come they never tried to move the SJ body to the ship? Or could it be a complete empty Space Suit and Helmet. The only way we will know is when the movie comes out, or Alex Jones Spills the beans lol.... but what did he say about May 21st last year... Rapture lol.

That's just it CanadaPhil...and a lot of people, even here, don't want to accept it, but that IS what the SpaceJockies are...HUMANOID type beings...and that disbelief is the source of the baseless notion that there are two alien races....there is no evidence for that......and, if you look at our blue friend again, you can see the ribbed structures on his body, particularly his chest that we can see the chair attaching itself to... [img]http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/l546/aliennaire/Prometheus/blue_guy1.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/031712-prometheus-wondercon.jpg[/img] and Big Dave is right on the money with this.... [img]http://dougbot.com/forum/prometheusDiscovery.jpg[/img] It's a suit and the SJ race is humanoid...

My take = I like where you are on this @BIGDAVE, the S/J's have bio-machanoid suits, the helmet has skull material with flesh over it as a suit and helmet that molecularly "adheres" to the subject like a living flesh wetsuit. If the host dies, the suit being living organic material dies as well because it is still "adhered" to the host (like the facehugger dies after it disengages with it's host) unless it is "programmed" to come of for later use. And the trunk it a breathing apparatus (organic material as well), that attaches the pilot to the chiair, (i.e. the ship), and that is why we see the helmet-(skull material) on the examination table----prometheus doesn't know what it is--skull? or helmet--which is why it's in the examining room.

I cant shake the idea that the blue guy is David after some sort of metamorphosis. Its the jaw line i think it reminds me of him. Also in one of the trailers there is a shot of Shaw sat on the floor in a corridor of ( i assume ) Prometheus and she is not looking like its a good day, there is a human stood looking down on her and this human has some funky leggings on that look just like the legs of the guy in craigamores pic A so i think that means that at some point an SJ gets on the ship?? dunno... think im seeing it right ?.

I agree with that too @jonesy, the one on the prometheus looks way smaller than the bald guy, soooo, it conception is..it has to be a morphed david or halloway?

a plausible reason the helmet is in the med bay is due to the fact that they believed it to be a SJ skull due to the organic nature of it and upon discovering it's bio-mechanical makes them giddy for the possibilities tech they have just discovered EG, regenerating/customizable bio-armor

Why I am still shying away from the idea that its "just a helmet" and something basically just like us (but bigger) is underneath simply that ergonomically, it simply doesnt jive with our structure. Why would a "helmet" have a mouth opening structure that doesn't in any way articulate like our mouths actually do?? Why would it have eyes that are not only set way farther apart than ours, but even appear to almost be on the sides of the face??

BigDave really knows his stuff! Thanks for those pics. VERY interesting!

I cant take credit for that picture i found it on the internet. Before this movie released any stuff or info, apart from maybe the Space Jockeys will be in it. I did wonder if they would go with the Space Suit rather than Large Creature, if you look at some of the fan made concept work the Space Suit ones looked cool, the Creature ones not so and the Comic had them as a Elephant Creature and they sucked. [img]http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/space-jockey-101.jpg[/img] [img]http://cdn2.screenjunkies.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/space-jockey-8.jpg[/img] I am sure Ridley said Space Suit and Bio Weapons a long time before we even saw Alien 3. Remember who designed the Alien/Face Hugger the Jockey and Derelict and the Architecture... It was all based off HR Gigers work, look at his work and its a perverted mix of Flesh and Machine. Here is the Alien Cycle Art Work. [img]http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lsiq1hsClh1qmg4b2o1_500.jpg[/img] You see the idea they came with the Egg, Face Hugger and Chest Burster from? Well tell me does those beings look like a Giant Elephant looking Humaniod like. [img]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-V-dYF7PLG84/TnArr9tFgCI/AAAAAAAAHKc/KgZaRtRnzVc/s1600/Gonzo+close-up+foil.jpg[/img] Or some kind of Space Suit with Mask/Helmet?

Regarding the size and potential of David being the one thats in the scenes that becomes Space Jockey and sits in the Pilot Seat? Well here is a image again where you see David in centre and Jockey in back ground and by that it would apear to be much larger than David [img]http://www.csicon.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/David-and-Alien.png[/img] Yes indeed there is a scene with Shaw and what apears to be legs of a Space Jockey but the size is off, this one does not look 10ft tall etc. Maybe those who think David is the Jockey could be partial or even completely right. So here could be a explaination.... look at the picture above where David is in the Cockpit/Bridge you see a Space Jockey in the back ground, you actually see 3 in the clip. Now what if they confront David and some how they change him? Maybe he longs to be more Human and not just a Machine and the Jockeys grant him that gift and then Stick him in a Space Jockey Suit... (now maybe these suits can shrink to fit its wearer? ). The Jockeys then give David a mission, this could explain the difference in size to the Space Jockey that seems smaller that attacks or scares Shaw?

Just couple of thoughts about the picture of David in the cockpit and the blue guy: 1. The blue guy could be standing behind the pod thing that's close to us, thus he's much closer to us than David which makes him look huge. 2. I'm not sure but what if the blue guys in that scene are actually holograms and David just sees a playback of some event... they do seem kind of too blue in a way and have pretty much the same tone as the starmap.

To me the head/helmet/skull/ always resembled a pilot's helmet with an oxygen mask (trunk=oxygen mask (or whatever it is it is breathing)). Just my 2 cents.

I see the logic in this conversation but a couple of things-1)The blue guy is only seen in it's entirety in the chair room.2)If he molds into the chair,then why are the suits hanging in a hallway?3)the new chair has a control panel under the right hand of the "new" space jockey,whereas the original chair does not have it.