Prometheus Revealed?

Gavin
MemberTrilobiteApril 04, 20123311 Views103 RepliesA bit of a misleading title, but not quite, let me explain...
You know that feeling you get when something is one the tip of your tongue that you've been trying to remember/solve, well I'm getting it with Prometheus. Here's the pieces of the puzzle...
1. At least 5 Harkonnen Castle inspired temples, presumably each one with a big head and lots and lots of mysterious ampules.
2. A big pile of dead Space Jockey's
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3. The Derelict, underground in a purpose built hangar.
4. Shaw giving birth to an unknown organism.
5. The Xenomorph depicting mural.
6. A big, blue humanoid inside the Derelict and attacking the crew.
7. A mutated crew member attacking the crew.
8. An Eel/worm based organism infecting Holloway.
9. The crashing of the Derelict.
10. The invitations left behind on Earth.
11. The UFO at the waterfall.
12. And finally, Ridleys comments in Empire magazine about an intelligent race on Earth before the fossil record.
I have all/most of the pieces of the jigsaw, but its just a hairs breadth out of reach, I know if I can just find the common thread I can figure this out...
April 04, 2012
::I have all/most of the pieces of the jigsaw, but its just a hairs breadth out of reach, I know if I can just find the common thread I can figure this out...
Snorkelbottom, time travel has been a big topic of conversation in the threads. Could time be a thread you seek?
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April 04, 2012
I just made a massive observation/connection
The Brownish/Blackish Goo...is Present On the King That Dies !
Right at the start of the new Trailer he is exmaning his own hand and that's the exact same Goo That we see on Shaw and on board Prometheus.
So the same fate that fell upon prometheus fell upon that King and his kingdom !!!
A Ha... A Clue Sherlock...
April 04, 2012
Since I began responding to a few posts here (not quite a week ago) I have been speculating that there are in fact 2 very different races at odds here (not including us).
I think there has been a hell of a lot of misdirection in the Trailers. I dont think Ridley is completely stupid in that he is going to give away the story in a two minute bite.
I do believe that there is a MASTER race if you will and one which are like indentured servants or outright SLAVE's, but I just cant put my finger on what the SJ is yet.
But it would seem incredibly lame if after 33 years the answer to that mystical dead thing in Alien being just BLUE GUY that looks like James Arness in 1951's THE THING. Sorry.. I just think that would just be a completely LAZY bit a writing on this productions part. I think Ridley is goint to try for a complete mind screw here.
And then you have Giger making a comment along the lines of .... "There is going to be something new and it will be VERY GRAUSLICH!"... Ummm OK.. It must take something completely freaky for someone like Giger saying its going to be very horrible.
April 04, 2012
@ fanboy79 - Dead Jockey's pic added to OP
@ odmanout - An umbilical cord attached to the "thing" and a suddenly inflated belly (leaked trailer) suggest pregnancy. The Vickers thing was mentioned (and has been discussed, a lot), its probably a ruse to lead us to suspect that she's the second android, thus I suspect she isn't.
@ Sparky - When? Who'd I slap? and Warning/Invitation is what we trying to figure out, could prove important.
@ prom_queen - might not be evil, but the trailer seems to suggest that at the very least they have ill intentions towards us, but why?
April 04, 2012
SNORKY WROTE-->[quote]So why would the UFO guys invite us to/warn us from a SJ planet.[/quote] BINGO MAN YOU NAILED IT!!! YOU B-SLAPPED IT... BECAUSE THE SAME FATE BEFELL THJEIR KING !!! ONE OF THOSE RACES WAS GOOD, THE HUMAN KING PREDECESSOR RACE, AND ONE IS PURE TERRFORMING EVIL...THE ENGINEERS/SPACE JOCKEYS/BLUE GUYS
April 04, 2012
Think of it this way. They keep saying this is going to be an epic. Having your cast of alien beings being a big blue guy and a couple of infectious organisms doesn't seem very epic or terrifying to me (in horror film terms).
But throw in something that can cut Space Jockey heads off. Maybe many somethings. Why is there a hologram of a blue guy running? Is he running around causing havoc (like planting bombs or something), or is he running from something?
If you were Ridley Scott, and you had access to whatever creature designers you want, 150 million dollars, and H R freaking Giger, would you settle for a bald blue guy and a worm going into some guys costume?
April 04, 2012
^^^^
Further to above, it you add to that the pick of the headless body and the gateway with the Temple Head in the background, this almost looks like some form of "LAST STAND" on these creatures parts. There appears to be a bashed in doorway in the pic of the headless jockey discovery.
I think the pick of the pile of jockeys in the OP are part of this same sequence.. That that hallway or corridor is just to the left of the headless body scene.
April 04, 2012
@ freeze him - the time travel element came about for two reasons - 1) peoples misunderstanding of the theoretical effects of FTL space travel, and 2) the "it looks fossilized" comment by Dallas in Alien. FTL will not cause travel back in time, and as Ridley has stated and shown, what we saw in Alien was a decayed suit, not the skeletal remains of a long dead creature (hence Dallas' assumption it was fossilized). Also I think there's enough going on here, time travel would needlessly confuse the story even further.
@ Sparky - Nah, not the goo. If you look at the "king" in the trailer look at the top/back of his head, whats going on there then.
@Canadaphil - a possibility, could the UFO guy's and the SJ's been in an alliance, if so why send us to a world inhabited by the SJ's?
April 04, 2012
That is the big question.. but it could be that somewhere along the line, one species eclipsed the other. The invitation is from around 100,000 years in the past??
The ones who became the "overloards" were not really aware of us, until we unwittingly happened along.
April 04, 2012
Ok, throw in mutated crew members too. Still not very epic or terrifying to a movie goer in 2012.
Anyone want to challenge my theory about collective sub-conscious the artists being responsible for the dots? Am I over looking something that would make this impractical?
April 04, 2012
I did not want to post me whole take just yet.. I was going to wait until just before the premiere, but I think the wow factor of this movie is most probably going to be that the freaky life cycles depicted in Gigers artwork are not just going to be the basis of simply a "look" that the art director decided to pick just for the heck of it back in 79, but those surreal depictions are actually going to come to life in this flick.
Seriously, I think we have all been missing the clues.. Some of the freaky elements, new eels, whatever, are taken directly from Gigers art. I dont think anyone can deny that.
AND.... hint, hint... Study Gigers print "Hieroglyphics" for a bit, and see if you have a lightbulb moment of sorts.
April 04, 2012
@ canadaphil - I'm a big fan of Giger's art, no light bulb there. His designs are def still a factor of the mythology, but not the key.
@ Biehn_Bandit - genetic memory is a possibility, and would fit, but the question is why? why have the memory or be given instructions to visit/avoid a SJ controlled planet?
April 04, 2012
"Snorky" he has The Goo all over him... and IMO... it's what Killed him, they {His Predecessor Race} try to warn us {Thus the time travel element} - {it's not us - it's that predecessor race that can time travel}and fail, 'cause we misinterpret the entire matter and take/steal some some of the vials which in turn creates the scenerio designed to end the existence of earth as we know it, except The Company, which sees all through Vicker's and David's eyes arranges... for that delivery of Earth's certain demise to be intercepted. What we are left with is a rotted Dereiict laid Baron on LV-426...One dead delivery boy... And a Pack of Vials turned to "Xeno-Eggs" beneath it !!!
April 04, 2012
first obvious one...
The FEMALE form IS THE 'DERELICT' or any SJ vessel for that matter.
Actually, Im gonna stop there.. Hahaha... Gonna wait until I finalize all my thoughts before I lay it out completely.
My main issue to resolve was that my assumptions were based on the XENO as we think of it not quite existing yet, but now Im not so sure... Im am now even leaning towards the idea that the "new" Overlords that have not been seen yet are in FACT THE "PROTO" XENOMORPHS.. hmmmmmmmmmmm.
April 04, 2012
I am in the camp of there being two races. I also believe that the trailers are misleading. In looking at the cave paintings, this one in particular -[img]http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg499/betterduckjmg/Screenshot2012-03-26at13341PM.png[/img] it appears these 'giants' have been recorded by early humans, and revered as Gods. We might conclude that they are benevolent creatures. The plot is said to use Greek mythology as inspiration. As most of us know, the original Gods (the Titans) and the new Gods (the Olympians) have it out, and the Zeus led Olympians seize power. Suppose the SJ's were the original Titans, and the Blues were the Olympians. This might explain the carnage found by the Prometheus crew, and the dead bodies and the severed head that they come across. One of Weyland's patents is the device that can reactivate brain activity, postmortem. Suppose the Prometheus crew uses this to activate the SJ head that is found, and subsequently get the 'low down' on what has been going on. The Blues may not even be on that planet when Prometheus arrives. The humans stick there nose where it doesn't belong, perhaps releasing something that was contained (maybe SJ DNA), much like Hercules releasing Prometheus from the rock, the Blues get pissed, and decide to cut us humans down a few notches.
April 04, 2012
@ Sparky - your reaching now, the "king" looks primitive, and whats infecting him doesn't seem to be hurting him. But I do believe this guy is important, but look at the features on his head (top left of frame).
@ canadaphil - female form in lifecycle mural for Alien = Derelict. Yep, too obvious I think we can agree, but go on... I suspect the Aliens are old, remember the Mural how can it depict a creature not yet in existence, but is it a "don not enter" sign or a "hail the Xenomorph" icon?
April 04, 2012
I talked about 2 races days ago lol.
Plus.....we cant really tell if that pic IS a pile of dead Space Jockeys.......referring to the creature from the original Alien.....which i think forget it we aint gonna see one cos Ridley sold us out with blue stupid men wearing an elephant suit.
I know the scene where you think Shaw gets either inserted (oops sounds porn like) or gives birth to the squid thing.
I can say that in the Prometheus Trailer 2 HD that we see somebodys knees in a glass pod with a grapple kind of instrument go zooming down to the feet end.....knees raised up as if it is indeed a birth scene......next cut is torwards head end where it reveals shaws face with dangly tentacles in front of her face......then next cut is the pod opening with a definite organism in the grapple.
I should point out that there is also a scene of Shaw waking up on a table then attacking a scientist in a bio hazard suit with a blunt object.