Prometheus Revealed?

@ Sparky - no offence was intended, in the "king" scene in the trailer the atmosphere, the ambience seems to be one of wonder not of death, we have only seen this guy for a couple of seconds, which suggests importance to me, but he also looks primitive... my guess is the UFO did something to him that changed him beneficially in some way, but why?

so what trailer shows an umbilical cord/swelling belly? I either missed it or haven't seen this trailer yet.

The squidbilly is like a proto facehugger. We haven't seen it, but I think it is reasonable to assume that THAT "facesquidbilly" is then going to attach itself to another crewmembers face... Not sure which one. A Chestburst of that crewmember is then going to result in the "gray EEL".. (Dont all chestbursts from the Alien stories we now initially result in a slimy eel/or serpent like thing with teeth?) However, what THAT "gray EEL" will quickly grow into is another thing... Could it be a new BLUE GUY, but a new BLUE GUY who is a little shorter in stature to what we think it should really be... because it gestated in a man???

I am in the camp of two races as well. If the film is based on Greek mythology as it is said to be, than two God types seems feasible. The Titans (the originals) and the Olympians (the newbies) have it out, with the Olympians seizing power. I think the Prometheus crew stumble upon the aftermath of [b]their[/b] war when they go exploring. They find corpses of what I believe to the be SJ's, and also a head. We see the head being examined. One of Weyland's patents is the ability to reactivate brain function, postmortem. I think they use this on the SJ head, and then discovered what happened. They proceed to stick there nose in deeper, and perhaps release the SJ DNA (much like Hercules releasing Prometheus from the rock) that was contained or trapped by the Blues. But here's the kicker. Maybe the SJ's aren't benevolent. Maybe them being trapped was a good thing. Maybe the Blue guys winning was a good thing. Maybe, this is where the line "We were wrong, we were so wrong..." comes from. The Prometheus crew feels like there doing the right thing, the moral thing by trying to help this trapped being, but they were wrong, so wrong.And I do think the Blues are pissed that we interfered and want to teach us a lesson. And then Hell really breaks loose.

@ odmanout - in the new trailer an umbilical cord can be seen extending from Shaws belly to the "thing" held in the clamps, and the swelling belly can be seen in the leaked trailer (if you can still find it).

^^^^ I like that. (BetterDucks comment)

@ Betterducks - Titans and Gods, a def possibility, falters out a little towards the end IMO but it fits with the races idea, I think the liver element has an analogy also. @ canadaphil - def don't think we gonna see a proto-xeno in this, Ridley wants something new, something fresh, but that tentacle/tail that hits the door seems the same color as the blue guy!

Yeah.. I really dont think there are going to be ANY Xeno's as we think of them from 79.. but the we will see the DNA as I think Ridley said... by that I think he means a process of what we are sort of familiar with... - An initial face capture/implantation/gestation in LIVING host* - A "birth" via violent escape resulting in death of host. - That serpent like offspring growing VERY rapidly into what its intended lifeform is. * I put an asterisk on that for a Reason. You need a FULLY LIVING HOST for this process. DAVID cannot act as a host in the true sense... Nor do I think DAVID can fully morph into a BLUE MEANIE as some are saying.... I think thats nonsense. However, I think DAVID will play a pivotal role in messing with the bioformer that results in Shaw getting "infected" so to speak.

@ Snorky...Could be...I just think the black stuff running all the way up the right side of his body and arm are too revealing. I am trying to keep it simple and follow a logical progression...maybe I am wrong and that's not the same goo but I doubt it. Think the little pre-amble makes it clear he dies, and I think in that image he is determining what is wrong with himself, if you examine it closely enough. Just My humble opinion, I agree to disagree. I love ya bro, just saying, I'm sticking with my theory.

I think betterduck is on to something with the head examination theory. Perhaps I am not looking closely enough at the Weyland timeline. Maybe other clues are there.

^^^^ Thats what I liked about it. That is obviously something meant for humans, but I wonder. I think the inference was that the process could only work on someone/thing that had been placed in some kind of stasis but who knows?

I agree, i think the weyland site has more clues than we think it does. @ Sparky - "A king has his reign, and then he dies" - possibly... the UFO guy's had their time then died at the hands of the SJ's whom in turn died at the hands of whatevers in that temple, and we are next, maybe.

Speaking of the timeline.. I will bring up this point that I mentioned in other topics again.... There was a prior space expedition with Weylands FIRST FTL capable science vessel, the HELIADES over 30 years prior !!! What became of that?? I think that notation is VERY intriguing... given that I think I have seen some posts saying that PROMETHEUS actually finds a cocooned HUMAN !!?!?!?

Snorkelbottom i believe the markings left on the wall were of a peaceful nature, but in the thousands of years since they were written some other beings landed on their planet killing them off. That or they are trying to create another species then the new lifeforms take over. Of the two im thinking the first scenario. The race that created life on earth being the craft over the water fall, the derelict being the blue dudes, the first ship being our creators obviously know where earth is and that could explane why the blue guy waited till humans came before heading off to earth Also has anyone touched on the point that no one might be even close to what the storyline could be? From how many minutes of trailers there are compared to hours of film time?? its fun guessing tho just saying

In all honesty I have said that we could all be completely wrong many many times we are all just speculating wildly...great point man...sorry if my passion for this stuff is overwhelming or put you off in any way. Having too much fun and taking too many quick liberties lately I guess.

didn't mean it in a harsh way just saying there's a world (lv 426) of possibilities :)

Another way to look at the possible scope of this thing: What if in the trailers for 2001:ASO they only showed scenes from the David-HAL act? That would be a considerable amount of crucial story they're not revealing. What if in Prometheus trailers we are mostly seeing scenes from one act, the crew vs. danger act? The disc over the waterfall could be a whole other act that takes place in pre-history; the blue guy and the jockey chair could be another act that takes place a few years after the Prometheus.

Biehn_Bandit i get the different time zones idea. What if the derelict seen in alien is different from the one in prometheus? the fossilized one seen in alien could of crashed thousands of years ago when something burst through his chest. other SJ's have to follow on a clean up mission to sort out the mess he left. then somehow whatever being is left in the end of prometheus lays its eggs in the old derelict?

I never understood why so many people think that this guy in the trailer is saying "It's in my throat." Think about it.

@ UK Alien/Biehn_Bandit - I get your point of minutes of trailers versus hours of film. It is just speculation, and I do believe something important is being withheld, but I also suspect we collectively might be able to crack the code so to speak. but the idea of time travel and two derelicts will confuse the average viewer I have just watched Fringe (season 4, episode 16) and it made me think... there was a line along the lines of "God's children inherit God's kingdom and become God's themselves", mix this with "The King has his reign and then he dies"... The God's warn us away from the Titans, whom in the time between the warning and us showing up have themselves become the God's, but not very nice Gods whom once aware we are the children of the former God's seek to eliminate us with the inheritance they have stolen and tainted, that was originally intended for us.

[quote]I never understood why so many people think that this guy in the trailer is saying "It's in my throat." Think about it.[/quote] You will soon know for sure though! 64 days: 15: 54: 20

That brings me back to what Ridley said on the commentary for Alien. In particular how he wanted the title to show what kind of advanced civilization the Xenos came from...Also, I thought about how when a sacred treasure is stolen from the land, then the land decays, which is what I think happens to this planet, causing it to become the desolate, windy planet we know as LV-426....

I don't agree that it's safe to assume the SJs and "engineers" aren't one and the same, because the evidence people are basing that assumption on, is circumstantial and pretty thin. I also wonder if the dead bodies we see piled up in that hallway are necessarily SJs. Perhaps other races were "invited" to drop by, and things didn't work out so well for them when they showed up, either.

Back in time ... the humans saw a flying saucer thingy ... some bloke turns up ... blah blah blah ... here's some life ... use it ... (that's our 'fire') ... but remember we're already made into humans ... because the drawings have the big geezer talking to small people (which must be US right?) ... we then document it on the walls ... So ... what's to say we didn't write the scribbles on those walls, to 'remind ourselves' of what happened? ... be it a warning an invite or just a note to self? ... by documenting it we are then able to tell others who follow us, in life ... We later 'think' it's an invitation ... que Prometheus the movie ... Work that out :) ... You think that's way out ... you need to have a go on the bong I've just ordered off eBay ... because I'm gonna need it when this sodding movie comes out ...

well with many scenes the answers could be easy if we knew what order they apear in. Such as if we knew the Eel/Tenticle thingy that tries to get to Shaw as she is behind a Door, depending if this scene is after or before the Med Table Squidy Scene could be a big factor. The med table scene here is how i peice it together, some how Shaw is inpregnanted with some Organism, and the company finds out something is up with her, the scene where she fells to knees could be when they find out somethings up and then leads to the scene where they try and restrain her. Or it could be after the scene where they try and restrain her and she escapes but not far and falls to knees. You can se black discharge as if maybe her Water Breaks? This leads to the scene where they take something out of her, thats my opinion. My view on the Space Jockey/Blue Guy is they are one and the same, the size fits the bill the style of the Suit fits the bill. Only odd thing is the one SJ in the Shaw scene does not look over 8ft tall? What could be imporant is there is 100% a scene of one Dead Jockey with its head/mask off. That other image could be more dead Jockeys which if thats the case adds even more to what killed them. They seemed to have died a horrable death i.e not via some virus but killed by something physically. I would assume the crew did not kill them, and i would assume they was dead a long time before the crew landed. There does not have to be two Races, dont forget WW2 was by Humans vs Humans. Maybe some of the Blue Guy/SJ tried to kill off others but for what reason? Maybe a rogue faction of SJ's killed off the rest and then lay in cryostasis for us to come visit them. We just dont know, we dont know if there may be a suprise and so we dont know if the Jockeys are the Eel things, Mutated Humans or what ever. I would assume they are a advanced Race of Large Humaniods and thus the Anunaki from Sumerian Tales. But i guess we wont know for sure untill more is leaked or we see the movie.

Another note is i spoke to someone who claims they know a bit about the plot and that it is simular to Alien Resurection but does not want to give it away. Maybe he is just BS, but he says the Two Andriods are the most important part of the plot? Well from what i seen in Trailers and Alien Resurection only connections i can make are Ripley being a experiment i.e cloned so as to extract the Alien Queen, and could this be simular to whats happned with Shaw? And that Ripley and her Hybrid Baby could be simular to the effected people in this movie, Ripley has Alien DNA and thus great Strength and we can see that from Mutated Fifeild? Maybe the guy means that he starts and maybe Holloway aswell as carrying a infection that alters their DNA which at first is not recognisable i.e just how Ripley looked in Alien 4, but then mutates to what Ripleys Baby does? Thus Evolution of a Mutation/Infection that changes Man to Proto Xeno? Who knows?

The scene with her falling to her knees makes sense if it's after the shot where we see her walking, doubled over, down the hallway. Then she comes to the room where they all are and collapses. All this after she has the auto doc extract something from her abdomen. That's how I see those pieces fitting.

nvm

I guess it all just speculation until we see it..... until then I'd like to make a prediction- The 'squid' (as people have come to call it) will end up being the 1st 'egg' that we've seen in all the other movies......

I think eggs are just urns encased in the same stuff that the SJs are when they're in their chairs- biological styrofoam.