Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

ALSO AND THIS IS EVEN BETTER... IT ALSO MEANS THAT THE DERELICT WAS IN FACT EN ROUTE TO EARTH TO PUNISH MANKIND FOR STEALING SOME OF THE VIALS END OF STORY!!!

it also means that their Cargo was Xenomorphs, pre programmed vials for Xenomorph Encoding and that they were to be used to Terraform Earth !!!

Um, It's LV-[i]223[/i]. Not sure where you got the 423 from. You seem to have some strange obsession with there being only ONE of these alien ships like the 'derelict.' YOU are the one who needs to explain why it would make "Zero Sense" if the movie doesn't end up on LV-426. Pssst, here's a hint: there's more than [i]one[/i] of those "derelict" ships. Imagine that. "Ha ha ha," indeed.

"Anybody who thinks that this is grounds for throwing some kind of absurd tantrum needs to really, really get over it." If someone wants to throw a tantrum because they are disappointed with the 'direction of a film', that is their personal right. It's just a personal opinion concerning a FILM and causes no harm to anyone. What DOES cause harm to PEOPLE is when people like you are rude to other people for the opinions they carry about something as fucking petty as popular entertainment.

I'm all for disappointment, but can it be done in not all caps so I can actually read it. And who knows, maybe the derelict has been on LV426 for years at this point, and the temple on LV223 is there to make sure no one is stupid enough to go disturb it. It was a warning to their race to not go near. Perhaps this guy was the watchman. Upon his death the beacon gets activated.

This whole f'ing thread has become completely tiresome. All hail THE HIGH PRIEST!

Jeez, I go away for a week, and you guys are all over Sparty, who is usually one of several "voices of reason," on here. Play nice kids!

I have no problem if they are on LV426 or LV223 or Zeus or any other planet. As long as Mr. Scott manage to make a damn good movie with a damn good story, then I don't have any fu**** problem quite frankly. When I started reading the second leaked script (released some weeks ago), I immediately felt (which may be wrong) that if its not 100% original even than its quite legitimate, so I stopped reading it. Its funny that people use to imagine all kind of stories & plots and when they realize that their imagination conflicts with the actual vision of director or writer, they start to criticize things. I absolutely have all the faith in Ridley Scott and his team of writers. Whatever the end product will be on June 8th, I'm sure I'll love it.

@"want-to-see-prometheusNOW!" "If someone wants to throw a tantrum because they are disappointed with the 'direction of a film', that is their personal right." Yep. And I have the "personal right" to call it absurd. You're right about one thing, though - it's f**king petty. He's tying himself into a knot because he seems to consider the credibility of the film is somehow ruined (whatever that means) for the reasons specified earlier in this thread, whereas I (and others here) see no reason to think so at all. I could also point out the irony of talking about the 'pettiness' of voicing opinions on a particular piece of popular entertainment on a forum [i]dedicated[/i] to that particular piece of popular entertainment which is itself part of an entire [i]website[/i] focused on that particular piece of popular entertainment and its attendant fictional milieu, but I'm sure you get the idea.

Sparky is, sometimes annoyingly so, very passionate and upfront with his views and opinions. All he is saying is what that that little voice at the back of some of our heads is saying, which is "Eh? What? WTF?!?". I understand his point - In Alien we see a "crashed" Derelict on Acheron LV-426. In the trailers for Prometheus we see a virtually identical Derelict vessel crash on a planet that, according to our deductions, looks to be in the same system. For this crashed Derelict to not be the one from Alien seems narratively longwinded and unnecessary, because to link to Alien we have to have another ship crash/crashed on LV-426. For now I reserve judgment until I see the footage or the film itself.

"Oh noes! It's not LV-426! The movie is ruined!" Whaaaaambulance has been dispatched.

I'm embarrassed, sorry. Planet in Prometheus photos...........BIG PLANET......... Planet in Alien....................small planet.......oid Fantastic new territory. What is the problem? It all sounds very wonderful to me, but some on this board are becoming very infantile and I hope it doesn't tip over into IMDB territory soon, or I'm off here. I've been all for the more than one 'underelict' for a long time - and SJ(s) Why not?

The ship in Alien could have emergency landed on LV426, not crashed. That ship could have been on that planet for decades, or centuries. The interior of the ship in Prometheus is not the same as the one in Alien. The only reasonable answer, to me, is that these are different ships on different planets. I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one.

A couple of things. As far as there being two 'crashed' alien ships: The ship in the original "Alien" doesn't appear to be damaged. Yes, it is obviously a "derelict" in the sense that it is an abandoned hulk, but it seems that the only reason it's still there on LV-426 is because the pilot got himself a bad case of chest-bursting indigestion, so to speak. The ship looks intact, though, rather than wrecked, as one might expect from a crash. (Incidentally, can I point out that the visual representation of the ship's hold in "Alien" doesn't quite seem right? What I mean is - look at the dimensions of the chamber Kane is lowered into, and look at the shape of the room. It curves, but then it curves again, and it doesn't seem to follow the contours of the 'derelict.' Not to mention that the opening that leads down to the egg chamber seems to have been 'melted' through the floor, as others have pointed out here elsewhere. It really does seem to be a 'cave,' as John Hurt calls it in the film. And yet, the walls have the same sort of biomechanical look as the Space Jockey's chamber does [which is actually because they used the same bit of set for both rooms,*cough*budgetconsiderations*cough* but I digress]. And yes, I know the 'derelict" is gigantic, but the cave looks even bigger. And I know it was probably unintentional on Scott's part; it's just how it appears. Just an observation). Anyway - The alien craft in the "Prometheus" trailers looks like it gets a whole can of whoop-ass unloaded on it by the [i]Prometheus[/i] (the ship). The thing goes down in flames, and there's at least one shot of it with smoke coming from it after the collision. I'm sure rolling across the landscape like a giant donut isn't good for its structural integrity, either. Point being - one derelict seems to be the outcome of a xenomorph impregnation of its pilot; the other downed alien craft looks to have been deliberately taken out by the earthlings. So the idea of there being more than one is really not all that far fetched at all. But back to the issue at hand: although may folks seem to think that LV-426 and LV-223 are both satellites of the same planet, there's no reason to believe that's the case other than the fact that the host planet has a ring around it (which is actually pretty common even among the larger planets in our own solar system). Also, in the "Alien" universe, we don't necessarily have a planetary naming scheme that corresponds with what we use in the real world, or even something more streamlined like Star Trek's "Ceti-Alpha-5," "Ceti-Alpha-6," and so on). LV-223 might be nowhere [i]near[/i] the planetoid in "Alien." James Cameron (who came up with the name) said it was simply a number given to the planet for navigational purposes - nothing more. Thus the "LV" designation may very well mean squat. (Also, big props to Scott/Lindelof for using the LV-426 name; there's no law saying they even had to [i]acknowledge[/i] anything from the later movies). But... Perhaps it IS the same ship, and it's either repaired by the Space Jockey race, or it has some kind of organic ability to heal/repair itself (as someone else has pointed out), and then in the future it somehow winds up on LV-426 during some other mission. It's possible. But I gotta be honest, THAT to me seems like a far more convoluted (and, I think contrived) bit of plot-jiggering for the sole purpose of making sure the 'derelict' winds up on LV-426. I don't see that as being a priority of the storytellers/filmmakers, since they have said over and over and over again that this movie isn't a prequel to the events of "Alien." To me, it all makes for the prospect of a far more surprising, unpredictable, interesting and satsifying moviegoing experience than it might be if Scott & Co. wind up being hamstrung by the need to make sure that one film connects cleanly to the other... [i]That's[/i] the kind of thing George Lucas does.

Well put, John D.

Whoops , that should've said props to them for using the same naming convention , not the actual name LV-426 . My bad .

According to the figures reported, it seems that LV-223 would be 10 times more distant from Earth than Lv-426. If those numbers are correct then the 2 planets are very far away from each other!

what figures?

Tried not to read to much but noticed the Lv223 part. At the start i was actually excited with it, any that are not all i can say is wait until you see the film and hopefully its sequel cause i bet it will all tie in nicely. Starting off on a different planet can only add to its storyline and has me excited even more. /hug to any that need it :)

@Snorkelbottom Prometheus being about 32x10^14 (3.2e15) km away from Earth (~340ly) Zeta Reticuli is "only" 39ly.

Who knows...maybe two derelict type ships chase each other over to lv-426 and one ship uses its gun/telescope to shoot a couple of very large holes with urn ammo into the other which crashes on lv_426 with some urns letting loose their goo / eggs.....you know the rest of story (Alien).

So instead of a series of films that focus on the culture/civilization the derelict came from, some of you would rather have a single, much smaller (in a story sense), film, the ending of which you already know? Who cares what planet it takes place on? I don't understand why people are so obsessed with LV426 and the original space jockey, when we potentially have a world of space jockeys being created for us by Ridley via this movie and several hopeful sequels. I said this before, we may only come to understand why that ship was on LV426 via and understanding of the customs/culture of the SJs/engineers in general and that's fine with me. We're getting more xenos (possibly), new aliens, more SJs, more violence, more Giger, and possibly bigger, better sci-fi films from the studios as a result of this film. What is there to complain about, really? Just my opinion.

@Nox... Sorry Im really confused now. As per Snorkle, who are you quoting there... officially released info or a member? I think the number has been mistated. The system is approx. 39 light years away in most information out there... and that would even be a severe stretch for ANYONE to assume a human could even reach that let alone something 340 !!! That would be even beyond non-sensical Star Trek plots. BTW, folks, LIGHT YEAR is a measure of DISTANCE... dont confuse it with TIME.

I am quoting the reports from 2 different members (DJAB and TheHighPriest), who have reported from other sources in their turn. I am basing my speculation only on those numbers I have read, but they can be completely wrong. The validity of my point strictly depends on the accuracy of those numbers. And yes, we have to accept FTL travel in order for everything to work. And one can assume that once you can go faster than light it can be 10 or 100 times faster either.

@ Nox - you need to explain you equation, as it does not add up?!?

I have a hunch this will be a story which occurs during the same time or right around the time of Alien. Prometheus happens, and something makes the company wake up the occupants of the Nostromo to set down on LV-426. Maybe the crew (or company droid) of Prometheus finds out where the other "derelict" ships are scattered and the company just happens to have a freighter passing by one of the locations, 0-30 years later.

Right so if you get up to the speed light to short order and have good brakes :) you could arrive in 39 years.

Right so if you get up to the speed light to short order and have good brakes :) you could arrive in 39 years.

Actually, how would a human reach something even 39 light years away? That would take 39 years at the speed of light which we believe via relativity to be an impossibility as your mass would be infinite, 68 at half the speed of light which is almost as silly as the speed of light, 390 years at 1/10 the speed of light which is still utterly ridiculous. If we accept that they can reach a planet 39 light years away, then they can reach one 390 light years away because they're probably bending space to get there. Without something that makes distance almost negligible, its kind of a silly proposition. I know we have no idea how to do that, but getting there using traditional propulsion, even employing anti-matter or anything else that is many, many times more powerful per unit volume than traditional fuel, flys in the face of what we know.

@Snork (1) 1 ly = ~9.5e12km (2) reported distance = 3.2e15km if we divide (2)/(1) we get ~336 ly So that would be the alleged distance of lv-223 according to (unverified) reports The Zeta Reticuli system, on the other hand, is 39 ly from Earth. @whiskuz exactly, this is where we have to suspend our disbelief. They say it takes 2.5 years to get to lv-223 (in Alien it would take 10 months from LV-426 to Earth). We have to concede that FTL travel is achieved in some way.