Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

OK.. so it was from "members" then. Well, I think they are simply mistaken then and misquoted it by a factor of 10 times. And it would be an utterly complete suspension of disbelief to believe that we could ever travel 100 times the speed of light, when most theories concur that it is theoretically not breakable. I had found a great page a long time ago that pretty much explained this concept in laymans terms (I will try to find it again). Hawking even has some great info on the concept of Time Dilation. The site I had found examined a theoretical trip to a planetary cluster that was 34 light years from Earth (pretty close to the 39 of Zeta Reticuli). It has been surmized that if we could developed a form of engine that could sustain its thrust literally for years and if we could accelerate to a point just shy of the speed of light, we could traverse that distance of 34 light years in approx. 7 years sustained flight time (which would actually translate to 34 ish YEARS in time surpassed back on Earth!!... This is the "Time Dilation" concept which has NEVER been acurately portrayed in any sci-fi)... So in other words, people who want to work in Space in the future should probably be SINGLE and/or not have any pets left back at home that need to be fed and waterered. (But they would probably be well paid though!)

I think NoxWord is right on target - there's probably something else at work other than simply getting a spaceship to move at a very high rate of speed. On another note, I just read that "leaked" script that was posted here, the one that was supposedly confirmed by this latest bit of preview footage, and I gotta say... it's awful. What a juvenile, amateurish, clumsy, awkward piece of dreck. I don't believe for a second that it's genuine, and I see no need to worry.

spartacus, by reading all the details and exposed plot, you basically ruined the movie for youself bro. Scott said its a stand alone movie and we know for a fact that the jockeys are a race of humanoids, so there is more than a million. The movie is about more than the jockeys, its about evolution, and where everything comes from. If you based everything on a deserted rock like 246, it would have less total value because it would be an exact alien prequel. from high res images, you can see that there are 7 or 8 buried crescent ships on lv-223. So i doubt the jockeys crashed there. It almost seems that its a warehouse or brreding ground for jockey testing.

Whats with the ~ and e Furthermore if the Zeta Reticuli system, at a distance of 39ly, has its bodies labeled under LV, a system 297ly further away would not share the same cataloguing system.

I know this is a bit off-topic. But such a travel would most likely be on constant acceleration until midway, and then equal but opposite deceleration until destination. In that scenario the acceleration provided by the thruster could be used to simulate artificial gravity (by orienting the ship appropriately). Otherwise the use of artificial gravity in sci-fi movies totally baffles me (except for 2001, which is adherent to our current state of the art).

You don't need FTL speeds to create 1g.

No, you don't need FTL to create 1g, and that's not what I mean. In order to achieve FTL you have to accelerate (you start from idle). But you can use your acceleration in most useful ways than just being strapped to a seat with your face skin being lifted towards the back of your head :)

@Nox... yet last post was bang on... YES, we have to factor in the DECELERATION. And the creation of gravity has never been depicted accurately in sci-fi. 2001 at least made a decent effort, but 2010 was much more accurate with the LEONOV having the rotating crew sections. This same concept was also used for Earth vessels in the 90's TV series BABYLON 5, which to me apart from the sometimes silly/magical Alien technology, was an increbibly accurate depiction of what a vessel built using human engineering would function like.

OMG my post was lost! Arghhhhhhhhh edit: @Snork sorry, I wrote a post to explain what you didn't understand, but it disappeared... :(

Sorry but 339ly would put the system either in deep space or near the galactic core

That has happened to me too NOX... Personally, I feel that speeds multiple times the speed of light as an utter pipedream. But accelerating to 1g using sustained thrust over time... ie YEARS, makes perfect sense... but then there is the other main issue... How do humans keep from turning into goo when protons travelling at hyperspeeds are passing through our bodies!!.. and lets not even get into the billions of small particles or pebble like meteorites that would be crashing into your vessel at hyperspeeds. This is why at best, we will probably never even realistically have a chance of sending anyone to anything further than Mars or within our own solar system.

I understand it alright but the numbers simply don't add up. Also the website weylandindustries.com makes specific mention of the zr system.

@Snorkelbottom (and whoever might be interested) ~ means "about" (approximation) e is used to write ludicrously huge numebrs in a compact form (it's called scientific notation) 1.0e6 for example means 1.0x10^6 and equals 1,000,000. Basically the number after the e is the number of "0"s that follow. 3.2e15 is something you wouldn't want to see written in full! :D Catalogation systems are not based on real distances between objects or on how related they can be. As a matter of fact, items from a same catalogue can be completely unrelated and very far away from each other. As an example, one of the oldest catalogation systems still in use is the Messier catalogue, which was published in the 18th century. There are two objects, M30 and M31 which come one after another in the sequence, but they are two different things (one is a star cluster, the other a galaxy) and their distance from earth is extremely different (one a few thousand ly, the other a couple million ly!). One of those is the Gliese catalogue, which was under the spotlight some time ago, and is a list of stars close enough to our Sun. What do you mean that the numbers don't add up? Also, 340ly is a very short distance in galactic terms, we might say it's not very far away from the Sun. The galactic core is about 30,000ly away. And yes, the weyland site makes reference to Z Reticuli, and to LV-426 being there. I am not saying that it is all wrong, just that those figures need confirmation, and if they're correct Lv-223 is nowhere close to lv-426, nothing more, nothing less :)

"Catalogation systems are not based on real distances between objects or on how related they can be. As a matter of fact, items from a same catalogue can be completely unrelated and very far away from each other. As an example, one of the oldest catalogation systems still in use is the Messier catalogue, which was published in the 18th century. There are two objects, M30 and M31 which come one after another in the sequence, but they are two different things (one is a star cluster, the other a galaxy) and their distance from earth is extremely different (one a few thousand ly, the other a couple million ly!)." This is what I was thinking, too. Ty Nox.

Finally we can end the 'it takes place on lv426' argument. RS has said all along the ending of Prometheus is not Alien.

And now you can take your mask off, TheNextLV426, you are LV223, aren't you?

Lol NoXWorld The nextlv426 name tag was only because I couldn't think of anything better when I signed up. I have never assumed LV426 would be in the movie. RS said we would not meet the SJ from Alien and I believed him. It seems like some people like poor Sparticus are having a hard time dealing with the truth. I did say some people were going to be disappointed

Yay. I never thought it would be the same ship or planet. Man, people are pissy about being wrong....

Great another dodgy pilot just like the ones we have here on earth lol.

I dont' understand the consternation about "two wrecks in the same system." For all we know, the "derelict," was still flight capable. In any event, it doesn't appear that an engine went out, or that there was any other failure of SJ technology.......the pilot was clearly attacked by a facehugger. The ship in "Prometheus" is rammed by an enormous spacecraft, whereupon it smashes into the ground.......yet it appears to be completely intact. Again, for all we know, It may in fact, remain flight capable. In any event, what happened to both ships, was a result of external causes/events, unrelated to the reliability of any advanced technology used in their construction. What's the problem? Even in the real world, sh!t happens.

Well said artyoh im in total agreement with all that.

And there is the possibility of it still being the same ship that eventually repairs itself or gets repaired and has to make a emergency landing on lv 426 due to its cargo being compromised or some other significant reason for it to land on lv 426 after the events of prometheus . After all if the ship has suffered from a major incident involving a substantial collision then it may be operational up to a point but because of the damage sustained in prometheus it malfunctions and is forced to land later on lv426 a very close neighbouring planet.

I haven't read all of the replies to this post yet so forgive me if this was posted already...., but, consider that Peter Weyland gets in the pilots seat of the ship with the eggs, because he's been infected--(that he created when he landed on lv-223 with the heliades) and crashes on lv-426 when he gets chest bursted. ---I KNEW THAT THE POSSIBILITY OF ONLY ONE SHIP AND THE PROMETHEUS PLANET WAS LV-426 WAS TOO FAR FETCHED!!! bear with me.....but.....I WAAAS RIGHT! (possibly) haha.

I like the sound of that except how about it being David not Weyland, that would explain the biomechanoid aspect to the xeno lifeform mixed with the artificial dna of the android, and the dna sequence of the vial life form. Again though this is apparently not a direct prequel to alien so its all pie in the sky but feasible speculation.

Well, Ridley said that Prometheus does not reveal all mysteries, therefore: 1-LV-223 is another planet, that would make possible a sequel or simply to preserve the mystery forever. 2-LV-233 and LV-426 are the same planet, but curiously in Alien is a dead planet and in Prometheus instead on a planet with conditions similar to those on Earth. Not sure, but it is possible that something happens (catastrophe, terraforming or whatever) and that fact influences the change of name of the planet (perhaps to hide, do not forget that the crew of the nostromo had no idea the events of Prometheus)

Perhaps Spartacus over reacted just a touch due to his passion, but, as Snorkelbottom said, we need to be civil here guys.....I personally have no issue with this idea at all....I like it...so there's more than one ship belonging to a space faring race...who'd have thunk it?.....anyway, what happens to the derelict in 'Alien', as another poster said, logically is due to an egg releasing its contents and what happens in 'Prometheus' is due to human intervention...what's so awful about that?...I LOVE that this film is its own story, sure Ridley insists the DNA of 'Alien' is there...but WHY do we HAVE to have it be LV-426? I don't see the absolute need, especially considering the fact that...WE HAVEN'T BLOODY SEEN ANYTHING WORTH COMMENTING DEFINITIVELY ABOUT YET....thank you...

In the words and voice of Emperor Palpatine, "Everything is proceeding as I have Foreseen...He he he." ~N

This is the part that bothers me: [quote][i]Scott commented on what brought him back to the Alien universe – The sequels had not [b]explored the biggest question – who was was the Space Jockey, why did he have that cargo, and where was he headed with it?[/b] The Alien sequels were “all jolly good, in one for or other”. While the project started as an Alien prequel, the more he got involved in another story, the “less inclined I was” to connect it to Alien.[/i][/quote] Ridley keeps raising these questions like they're important, but are any of them answered in the film? I don't care if it's literally the same planet/guy or not. But because we now know it isn't, I'm at a loss not knowing what's actually left. I'm all for metaphorical answers, that stuff doesn't bother me. It's the idea that the jockey ship is there because they already did the set and CGI before the plot was re-written. That gets me fuming.

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I think you're fuming over nothing. Wonder of wonders, the SJs have more than one ship, and the answer to the question about cargo may well be answered indirectly. The decision not to make it a direct prequel was in all likelihood, made early in the pre-production phase of this project; [i]certainly not[/i] after cameras started rolling.