Prometheus takes place in LV-223!!!

Janek
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April 10, 2012
ALSO AND THIS IS EVEN BETTER...
IT ALSO MEANS THAT THE DERELICT WAS IN FACT EN ROUTE TO EARTH TO PUNISH MANKIND FOR STEALING SOME OF THE VIALS
END OF STORY!!!
April 10, 2012
it also means that their Cargo was Xenomorphs, pre programmed vials for Xenomorph Encoding and that they were to be used to Terraform Earth !!!
April 10, 2012
Um,
It's LV-[i]223[/i]. Not sure where you got the 423 from.
You seem to have some strange obsession with there being only ONE of these alien ships like the 'derelict.'
YOU are the one who needs to explain why it would make "Zero Sense" if the movie doesn't end up on LV-426.
Pssst, here's a hint: there's more than [i]one[/i] of those "derelict" ships.
Imagine that.
"Ha ha ha," indeed.
April 10, 2012
"Anybody who thinks that this is grounds for throwing some kind of absurd tantrum needs to really, really get over it."
If someone wants to throw a tantrum because they are disappointed with the 'direction of a film', that is their personal right. It's just a personal opinion concerning a FILM and causes no harm to anyone.
What DOES cause harm to PEOPLE is when people like you are rude to other people for the opinions they carry about something as fucking petty as popular entertainment.
April 10, 2012
I'm all for disappointment, but can it be done in not all caps so I can actually read it.
And who knows, maybe the derelict has been on LV426 for years at this point, and the temple on LV223 is there to make sure no one is stupid enough to go disturb it. It was a warning to their race to not go near. Perhaps this guy was the watchman. Upon his death the beacon gets activated.
April 10, 2012
Jeez, I go away for a week, and you guys are all over Sparty, who is usually one of several "voices of reason," on here.
Play nice kids!
April 10, 2012
I have no problem if they are on LV426 or LV223 or Zeus or any other planet. As long as Mr. Scott manage to make a damn good movie with a damn good story, then I don't have any fu**** problem quite frankly.
When I started reading the second leaked script (released some weeks ago), I immediately felt (which may be wrong) that if its not 100% original even than its quite legitimate, so I stopped reading it.
Its funny that people use to imagine all kind of stories & plots and when they realize that their imagination conflicts with the actual vision of director or writer, they start to criticize things.
I absolutely have all the faith in Ridley Scott and his team of writers. Whatever the end product will be on June 8th, I'm sure I'll love it.
April 10, 2012
@"want-to-see-prometheusNOW!"
"If someone wants to throw a tantrum because they are disappointed with the 'direction of a film', that is their personal right."
Yep. And I have the "personal right" to call it absurd. You're right about one thing, though - it's f**king petty.
He's tying himself into a knot because he seems to consider the credibility of the film is somehow ruined (whatever that means) for the reasons specified earlier in this thread, whereas I (and others here) see no reason to think so at all.
I could also point out the irony of talking about the 'pettiness' of voicing opinions on a particular piece of popular entertainment on a forum [i]dedicated[/i] to that particular piece of popular entertainment which is itself part of an entire [i]website[/i] focused on that particular piece of popular entertainment and its attendant fictional milieu, but I'm sure you get the idea.
April 10, 2012
Sparky is, sometimes annoyingly so, very passionate and upfront with his views and opinions.
All he is saying is what that that little voice at the back of some of our heads is saying, which is "Eh? What? WTF?!?".
I understand his point - In Alien we see a "crashed" Derelict on Acheron LV-426. In the trailers for Prometheus we see a virtually identical Derelict vessel crash on a planet that, according to our deductions, looks to be in the same system.
For this crashed Derelict to not be the one from Alien seems narratively longwinded and unnecessary, because to link to Alien we have to have another ship crash/crashed on LV-426.
For now I reserve judgment until I see the footage or the film itself.
April 10, 2012
I'm embarrassed, sorry.
Planet in Prometheus photos...........BIG PLANET.........
Planet in Alien....................small planet.......oid
Fantastic new territory. What is the problem? It all sounds very wonderful
to me, but some on this board are becoming very infantile and I hope it
doesn't tip over into IMDB territory soon, or I'm off here.
I've been all for the more than one 'underelict' for a long time - and SJ(s)
Why not?
April 10, 2012
The ship in Alien could have emergency landed on LV426, not crashed. That ship could have been on that planet for decades, or centuries.
The interior of the ship in Prometheus is not the same as the one in Alien.
The only reasonable answer, to me, is that these are different ships on different planets. I'm going with Occam's Razor on this one.
April 10, 2012
A couple of things.
As far as there being two 'crashed' alien ships:
The ship in the original "Alien" doesn't appear to be damaged. Yes, it is obviously a "derelict" in the sense that it is an abandoned hulk, but it seems that the only reason it's still there on LV-426 is because the pilot got himself a bad case of chest-bursting indigestion, so to speak. The ship looks intact, though, rather than wrecked, as one might expect from a crash.
(Incidentally, can I point out that the visual representation of the ship's hold in "Alien" doesn't quite seem right? What I mean is - look at the dimensions of the chamber Kane is lowered into, and look at the shape of the room. It curves, but then it curves again, and it doesn't seem to follow the contours of the 'derelict.' Not to mention that the opening that leads down to the egg chamber seems to have been 'melted' through the floor, as others have pointed out here elsewhere. It really does seem to be a 'cave,' as John Hurt calls it in the film. And yet, the walls have the same sort of biomechanical look as the Space Jockey's chamber does [which is actually because they used the same bit of set for both rooms,*cough*budgetconsiderations*cough* but I digress]. And yes, I know the 'derelict" is gigantic, but the cave looks even bigger. And I know it was probably unintentional on Scott's part; it's just how it appears. Just an observation).
Anyway - The alien craft in the "Prometheus" trailers looks like it gets a whole can of whoop-ass unloaded on it by the [i]Prometheus[/i] (the ship). The thing goes down in flames, and there's at least one shot of it with smoke coming from it after the collision. I'm sure rolling across the landscape like a giant donut isn't good for its structural integrity, either.
Point being - one derelict seems to be the outcome of a xenomorph impregnation of its pilot; the other downed alien craft looks to have been deliberately taken out by the earthlings. So the idea of there being more than one is really not all that far fetched at all.
But back to the issue at hand: although may folks seem to think that LV-426 and LV-223 are both satellites of the same planet, there's no reason to believe that's the case other than the fact that the host planet has a ring around it (which is actually pretty common even among the larger planets in our own solar system). Also, in the "Alien" universe, we don't necessarily have a planetary naming scheme that corresponds with what we use in the real world, or even something more streamlined like Star Trek's "Ceti-Alpha-5," "Ceti-Alpha-6," and so on).
LV-223 might be nowhere [i]near[/i] the planetoid in "Alien." James Cameron (who came up with the name) said it was simply a number given to the planet for navigational purposes - nothing more. Thus the "LV" designation may very well mean squat.
(Also, big props to Scott/Lindelof for using the LV-426 name; there's no law saying they even had to [i]acknowledge[/i] anything from the later movies).
But...
Perhaps it IS the same ship, and it's either repaired by the Space Jockey race, or it has some kind of organic ability to heal/repair itself (as someone else has pointed out), and then in the future it somehow winds up on LV-426 during some other mission. It's possible.
But I gotta be honest, THAT to me seems like a far more convoluted (and, I think contrived) bit of plot-jiggering for the sole purpose of making sure the 'derelict' winds up on LV-426. I don't see that as being a priority of the storytellers/filmmakers, since they have said over and over and over again that this movie isn't a prequel to the events of "Alien."
To me, it all makes for the prospect of a far more surprising, unpredictable, interesting and satsifying moviegoing experience than it might be if Scott & Co. wind up being hamstrung by the need to make sure that one film connects cleanly to the other...
[i]That's[/i] the kind of thing George Lucas does.
April 10, 2012
Whoops , that should've said props to them for using the same naming convention , not the actual name LV-426 . My bad .
April 10, 2012
According to the figures reported, it seems that LV-223 would be 10 times more distant from Earth than Lv-426. If those numbers are correct then the 2 planets are very far away from each other!
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born.
Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.
April 10, 2012
Tried not to read to much but noticed the Lv223 part. At the start i was actually excited with it, any that are not all i can say is wait until you see the film and hopefully its sequel cause i bet it will all tie in nicely. Starting off on a different planet can only add to its storyline and has me excited even more.
/hug to any that need it :)