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Shane

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 2:39 AM
Found on [url=http://www.heyuguys.co.uk/2012/04/11/discover-prometheus-with-these-new-exclusive-images/]HeyYouGuys.co.uk[/url]. That mural one is certainly interesting. The hole is pretty much where the jockey's tear is located in Alien, just extended a bit more.
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NoXWord

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:18 AM
@Kane I can see what you mean now. That would make a bit of sense, but then there are no legs and the head would be at the far left, in the darkness. All in all the squatting option seems to be more likely, with the left elbow being symmetric to the right one, the "ribcage" being just a feature over the shoulder and that thing you describe as the left arm being some sort of shoulder bone like we see on the original Giger's Alien.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Gem]n[

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:19 AM
@Nox ... Nice eye mate ... You guys sure that's not Weyland and his dog? ... :$ ... ;) ... Jokes aside ... it's looking more like David the more I look at it ... but how? ... I have no idea ... could even be Holloway? ...

WhyDontTheyFreezeHim

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:19 AM
@NoxWord - I looked closer at the Gigers Alien life cycle and compared it to the mural wall and I now think it is without doubt the same background! - [img]http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/5968/gigersalienlifecyclevsp.png[/img] Again, GREAT eye my friend.

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:21 AM
GIGER IS BACK! Or someone ripped him off...
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

WhyDontTheyFreezeHim

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:23 AM
LOL!

Gem]n[

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:23 AM
Ok ... so we may have an animated Mural of a life cycle of 'something' ... not necessarily the Xeno at this point? ... or is it just a tease? ...

NoXWord

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:31 AM
What I really think (I have posted it already somewhere else), is that Ridley Scott has been waiting all these years not just to get back to sci-fi and answer some questions, but to use all the ideas, visuals and material he had ready for Alien, but that couldn't be put in the movie because of limited budget. What happened on the Nostromo was developed and filmed, everything else (on LV-426) was dramatically reduced. So he was looking for a good story to resume everything. And because the Alien was on the Nostromo, and got under the spotlights already, it is not going to appear in Prometheus. That's why we see all this stuff from early scripts and preliminary sketches.
Ridley Scott will eventually tell us how the Queen was born. Right now we have the Deacon; coming soon the Mercury, the May and the Taylor.

Ethon the Ripper

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:32 AM
There are several possibilities: 1- The life cycle may be part of the so-called "Alien DNA" that only the eagle-eyed fans may notice, as well as Easter eggs. 2-Another possibility is that new monsters or even the Space Jockeys have a life cycle similar to a Xenomorph only this time a smaller scale (with parasites or microscopic worm) as the words of David: Great things have small beginnings. By the way @NoXWord nice eagle eye

silica

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 7:39 AM
The croucher looks like what Fifield becomes. BTW, are there no 'females' in this species of Engineer?

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:00 AM
Interesting... The "creature" at the feet of the "Blue Meanie" is basically a dead ringer for the HEADLESS JOCKEY is it not?.. And I guess this image DOES CONFIRM that we are in fact dealing with at least 2 distinct lifeforms... 1 Master and 1 Subserviant or Slave? The "artwork" if you will almost appears to be depicting a scene of a "fall from grace", and it appears that the large being is basically powerless in relation to the humanoid? [img]http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/8058/prometheusi.jpg[/img] Just to refresh everyone... Here is the head from the huge corpse the team come across. Does everyone still think this is a "helmet".... [img]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwnsasSzBB1qmz9r9o1_400.png[/img]

MU-TH-R 182

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:00 AM
In the trailer, Shaw is staring at these images and remarks "they're changing" 1. The paintings are changing? 2. The figures in them are changing? and she's crying.... I have often thought why is that. Is it because she's seen the true meaning of these and the earth paintings. I agree it's very all very similar to Michelangelo's work in the Sistine Chapel, although it would have more in common with "the Last Judgement" than "The Creation of Adam". In the picture showing the 3D hologram of the temple, we can see the centre chamber is this room, showing the column, and from it rises the shaft to upper levels, which appear to spiral out. based on the scale of this room, those spiral levels must be huge.

SHEPMOT

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:03 AM
Could the [ manlike ] being be holding back the beast/alien from attacking him or perhaps blessing him, even showing his dominance?

Shinoyami65

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:10 AM
Is the Xenomorph mural next to this one? I think I can see the edge of it to the far right. Or maybe this mural turns into the xeno mural towards the end of the film?

Merc7

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:18 AM
There seems to be a familiar pattern on the humanoid's legs. And look at its protruding eyebrows, just like the large head from the ampule room. Space jockey?

Mentos

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:19 AM
Haha! So those are the murals Giger has been creating? They look fantastic. [i]"I brought him in, I showed him what we were doing, showed him the story and he liked it a lot. So he's doing a little bit of work for me. He's been doing some murals, big murals, which we'll see in almost one of the first chambers we encounter when we land where we're gonna go."[/i] [url=http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=85253]SOURCE.[/url]

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:20 AM
@Canadaphil, could be a "living" helmet turning into some kinds of facehugger after someone messes up that place?

Mark Cawley

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:23 AM
And is that a split or tear or something in the persons side?

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:44 AM
@ mark: i just think it's an old painting detoriating @frantz: what do you mean?

Frantz

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 8:33 AM
a question ..the image is the final stage of the changing ? or is the start ? .... "changing into what ?" ....

Macs

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:15 AM
. "Mural" looks like greek temple pediment artwork..Apollo at temple of Zeus-ish?... [IMG]http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/Macs_05/Prometheus-2.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m217/Macs_05/ApolloLapithsandCentaursfromWestGreek-PedimentofTempleofZeusatOlympia.jpg[/IMG] -But keep in mind that the Greeks were the first to put man in the center, so this would be at odds with the spirit of the theme i would think... - Something interesting to see is that "Apollo" is not as composed and in control, he seems to be struggling a bit...

Frantz

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:18 AM
I mean ....Shaw say that the walls are changing ...the image of the man with the "beast" is the original wall or the changed wall ?

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:24 AM
good question, that temple is kind of alive. the wall keeps changing, the head moves... it's a very developed script isn't it anyway, maybe it's not original nor end, maybe it just keeps moving/changing?

Macs

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:32 AM
Ok, so this puts the last nail in the coffin: The jockeys or engineers, or whatever they are, are not "Gods" at all. They are just another species a bit more advanced than us, and with the capacity to be just as vane and nasty as us it seems....

Frantz

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:39 AM
hummm then maybe the jockeys did exterminate the blue guys ( the slave that rebel to the master ) ? And the identify us with the blue guy ( and myabe they are not wrong since we are descendants ) ? And they want to exterminate us too ??

ShinobiX9X

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:43 AM
Hmmm, i never thought GOD(s) being anything else but a more advanced lifeform...... @Frantz, so now the the spacejockey is not the blue guy with a mask anymore?

Svanya

AdminPraetorianApr-11-2012 9:48 AM
Oh so beautiful! Like a Cathedral or the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel.

CanadaPhil

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 9:53 AM
@ Frantz... I dont know about that. It appears from the images released that its the big "elephant men" who had their butts kicked. Look at this pic detail (think GEMini originally did this) where they find the decapitated one (as if executed). This looks like a last stand to me. And pay attention to the doorway gates appearing bashed in/knocked down. Appears to have been a huge fight or struggle. It doesn't look like the "Blue Meanies" lost here... [img]http://oi44.tinypic.com/6rprao.jpg[/img] Here is the direct link where you enlarge it better... [url=http://oi44.tinypic.com/6rprao.jpg]Headless "Jockey"??...[/url]

Shane

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 10:00 AM
I don't think it is giger. The background might be but that is not his monster design. Have a flip through carlos haunte blog and pictures. The style the shapes are done in look way more like him. The alien-looking mural from that other one, that looks more like the Giger contribution. And I still don't think what is on the engineers arms is the jockey thing. the headshape looks different. the crouching creature growing out of him face bends inwards where the jockey mask goes outward.

Macs

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 10:04 AM
@ShinobiX9X Hmmm... Ok. so it is not about the BIG questions then...

Frantz

MemberOvomorphApr-11-2012 10:12 AM
In the slowmo trailer ....the sequence with the jockey suit opening ... we see that the creature inside have an horrible skin ...like the "black veins" have totally overrun the body ( just think about the image of the imax trailer ) .... in the mural we see that the standing humanoid have some parts of his body covered with black veins ... what if the other creature is not a "slave" but is one of them now completely mutated by the "black veins " ? Because those "black veins" must have a big meaning with the movie .
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