The who's right and who's WRONG thread!...

I reckon we're from two different universes.

I'll have to make my own thread to fit all the things I'll be right about, hehe The different planet thing has already been proven. Then there is also: Xenomorph already exists, different ship, Alien secreted resin from previous films is important, two different alien races in violent conflict, Shaw performs surgery on herself, a terrible creature we haven't seen yet, blue guy is practical not "evil," humans are the threat that needs to be stopped, Janek's O face is in response to some alien menace or violence and not from crashing into ship. Sooo...we'll see.

I just want to see something I haven't seen before. Sic-fi is so played out nowadays it's tough to get something based in original thought into a film. If anyone can deliver though, Ridley Scott can.

I'm only going to post this here and possibly as a new thread so it's more "clean" and somewhat "unrevealing". Here's what we know so far (WARNING: POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD) 1) Millions of years ago, a race of domineering, creative and intelligent beings swept the galaxy, seeding life. One of these planets was Earth, were they were worshipped as Gods. [i]These are The Engineers[/i]-first known as the "[i]Space Jockey[/i]s" from Ridley Scott's 1979 film. [img]http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=wRiGXO2zhzUswM:&imgrefurl=http://www.empireonline.com/features/prometheus-trailer-breakdown-2/p2&docid=lPLJbpyMkVlRSM&imgurl=http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/newprometheus2.jpg&w=775&h=330&ei=YHKKT87QGIaviQKUmNTLCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=233&vpy=386&dur=542&hovh=146&hovw=344&tx=223&ty=131&sig=104580844108080671746&page=1&tbnh=76&tbnw=179&start=0&ndsp=18&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0,i:92[/img] http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_rzdB5a4kLAo/TPQr1GxS5NI/AAAAAAAAW_A/UzwwAR8kKwo/s1600/5733896.jpg 2) Archaeologists Elizabeth Shaw and Charlie Holloway find a star map in a cave in upper Scotland pertaining to "Ancient Beings" who were from another part of the universe in a distant star system. [i] This is Zeta Reticulli. [/i] http://www3.picturepush.com/photo/a/7831636/img/Prometheus-Trailer/vlcsnap-2012-03-17-22h00m14s220.png 3) Several years later, the USCSS [i]Prometheus[/i] makes its way into the star system after putting together an expedition to travel to the planet and learn from our "Alien Gods"-[i]The Engineers[/i]-about our past and the beginning of life on Earth. http://illuminatiwatcher.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/tas.jpg 4) The crew consists of 17 people-including Shaw, Holloway, Captain Janek, Botanist Milburn, Utility expert and technician Fifield, Weyland Industries corporate representative (and slithery overseer) Meredith Vickers, and the ship's android, David. http://bestmoviesevernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Prometheus-2012-Movie-Image11-e1332051189391.jpg 5) The ship lands, and the scientists and explorers make their way inside a large Engineer temple (one of several) where they encounter a biomechanical system, a large chamber with a humanoid stone monolith, and hundreds of ampules/urns. David takes some back to the ship and interacts with them- http://a69.g.akamai.net/n/69/10688/v1/img5.allocine.fr/acmedia/medias/nmedia/18/89/63/98/20059317.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Ac0-dIESHY4/Tu-jQ_E2NNI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/OBTO7EudP2U/s1600/prometheus_teaser_13.jpg http://www.google.ca/imgres?um=1&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=600&tbm=isch&tbnid=AHwhB1ihFBJsyM:&imgrefurl=http://tumblr.firstshowing.net/post/19551664584&docid=Q29OrzJxjrSwBM&imgurl=http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/dailytrailers/19551664584/1/tumblr_m1408zTfya1qjaa1t&w=1000&h=469&ei=THaKT4uwM-bMiQKs4tyuCw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=232&vpy=293&dur=1050&hovh=154&hovw=328&tx=215&ty=57&sig=104580844108080671746&page=1&tbnh=70&tbnw=149&start=0&ndsp=22&ved=1t:429,r:8,s:0,i:81 [i]"Big things have small beginnings"[/i] 6) Unexpectedly, it turns out they aren't the only ones there, and are soon fighting for their lives when the Engineers discover human infiltration. They decide to unleash punishment upon them. Somehow, various crew members are either infected with some type of virus that does one of two things: http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/prometheus-movie-image.jpg http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii283/Evilqtl_2007/Misc/xlarge_scream.jpg 1. It either turns them into an engineer.. 2) Or it mutates their genome and alters their DNA and they become something else. Whatever they are, it's more horrific and brutal. [i]Instead of finding answers from angels about their beginning, they've been ruined by demons.[/i] http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-vNv_D8rEkzg/TvJo3n1yKSI/AAAAAAAAAV8/1-q79kzagOY/s1600/prometheus_teaser_3_14.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5ZXc5.png 7) Chaos reigns around the Prometheus. People shoot at each other with some sort of futuristic pistol. Vickers (and Janek) sport flamethrowers, and Shaw gets swept up in some gigantic dust cloud that envelopes the ship. http://i.imgur.com/bLCwG.jpg http://www.empireonline.com/images/uploaded/newprometheus44.jpg http://www.prometheusnews.net/wp-content/uploads/PrometheusMoviePromoShot_650.jpg 8) Shaw gets infected/pregnant and gives birth to something horrible and nasty. Meanwhile, the (Elder?) Engineer decides to launch his ship and bring the[i] "wrath of the Gods to Earth"[/i] (I liked that analogy another user posted). Unfortunately for both parties, it`s not going to make it there http://www.geeksofdoom.com/GoD/img/2012/04/2012-04-04-birth-533x615.jpg http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ZqKYa87t79c/T2frjPTgzrI/AAAAAAAAA8M/fMULenycIXA/s1600/prometheus_tv_spot_1_00037.png http://collider.com/wp-content/uploads/prometheus-movie-image-cockpit.jpg 9) Amidst the destruction, Shaw becomes a warrior and Vickers sheds her skin.. http://www.iwatchstuff.com/2011/12/22/prometheus-trailer-1.jpg http://theshootening.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/prometheus94.jpeg?w=450&h=187 That's all I'm going to write-I don't want to spoil the fun, and I'm probably going to go dark soon. But I'll be back after the release with a review and some considerations! [i]And don't trust the Weyland Corporation...[/i]

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@ [b]StarbeastEngineer0001[/b] - thanks for going to the effort of that lengthy extrapolation/roundup from the various trailers/info. we have seen and read so far. I've taken note of a couple of little speculations of your own that you've also thrown in there. But I'd certainly like to hear your other opinions here too, as unless you've been privy to the actual production details, then your additional thoughts are just further speculation like everyone else's here, inclulding mine. Go on, stick 'em up for analysis... @ [b]Spartacus -[/b] I cetainly lol'd at your 1st post on the previous page Sparty, and I just hope we all end up loving whatever storyline Ridley ends up giving us...even if it's not the actual one we may have preferred... By the way, I'm glad that you especially like the 6th speculation in my list...and I've actually elaborated on it now in my original post, if you care to have a look. ...and I've also expanded my 7th speculation now too...but as I don't recall it ever been suggested yet, I'm going to start a whole new thread to discuss the possibility...

Third time's the charm man-Cypher

The waterfall/saucer is in the opening sequence of the film. The big blue guys are actually ok, not bad guys. And Vickers is the second skin job. Oh, pardon me, artificial person . . .

I wonder what that "Vickers shedding her skin" is all about?..... EDIT: @Duke - I think she is without doubt an android or something else under that "suit".

I don't know what's right, and I certainly don't want to be right with any of my speculations, I want to be surprised. IN fact, I need to ban myself from this site, it's addicting! And I think we're all going to ruin our own movie experience (assuming we're right; I hope NONE of us are). One thing I do know is that the squid in the arm scene is NOT going to be the money-making shot (as chest burster was). Why? BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T BE FAIR. RS WOULDN'T DO THAT! Save the best for the film :) Also, I think that Weyland is on board and that the guy with the black goo in the beginning of the trailer is him...and the dead SJ in the chair is him. Maybe why they merged with Yutani, they needed someone else to take the helm (not sure if this was discussed already, but that's just my thought...again, I'm probably wrong). F*&k I hope we are all wrong.

@ [b]kellicoti -[/b] yes, it would be great if NONE of us we're right about certain aspects...and I'm sure that's the case for all of us where every plotline is concerned anyway. (and although I personally DIDN'T read any of the various 'leaked scripts' out there, I'd like to assume they're ALL fake anyway!) However, as far as certain notions that have been long speculated here, we can't all be wrong about certain things... For instance, the 'Derelict' seen in the trailers is either going to be the only one we see, or it isn't...and it's either going to be the one implied to be the same one as seen in ALIEN, or it isn't. Stuff like that is easy to have a point of view on...but plenty of other possiblilities will hopefully remain much more difficult to predict until opening day... This thread is just for having a guess at this point about what you THINK might happen eventually. Oh, and I certainly agree that the 'squid in the arm' scene will not be the equivelent of the original 'chestburster' scene in terms of creepiness...as I reckon the 'Shaw giving birth' to the 'squid' will be the one that comes close...

One thing I have found disappointing about everyones "theories" that I have seen so far is that all of you totally do not even attempt to touch upon the purpose and function of the CHAIR & TURNTABLE mechanism... which is strange since this piece of Alien tech. is going to figure very heavily in this story. No other theories on what it ACTUALLY DOES and how it ACTUALLY WORKS ??? Food for thought.... - The URN material is loaded into the mechanism as just 1 piece of a specific DNA production/manipulation cycle. - The EGG is a "by-product of nastiness" that is left over when the process has completed.

@ [b]CanadaPhil -[/b] I've seen notions of it being everything from an 'astronomical telescope/starfinder' to being a 'piloting' device to being a 'gun' of some sort around here in the past. Personally, I like the speculation that it's a combined 'piloting'/'gun emplacement' seat that actually fire's several 'ampule' urn containers at a time ([i]study the 'tip' of the device as it rises towards us in the trailers[/i]) from a planet's atmosphere...so as to create OR destroy life, depending on the 'Space-Jockey's mission intention.

Well... which is it then? Everyone should start posting what THIS THING DOES as no "theory" can be considered complete without explaining what it is... It is an integral part of the story... yet no one enters into their "theories"

@ [b]CanadaPhil -[/b] I've now finished typing in my own belief in my previous post...

This is just the latest(stupid) idea I had that tries to make a connection with the Prometheus myth and is NOT what I hope or what I think happens or whatever. The derelict ship represents the eagle and earth/mankind represents Prometheus. Instead of a daily torture from the eagle(the derelect), prometheus(the earth) is wiped clean every 10000(random guess) years. Like I said, horrible idea that I havent really thought out at all, and hope it isnt true. And like many have said, I want nearly all our ideas to be wrong and to be completely surprised. @ belladonna - Right! I dont think anyone should ask this lady to make them a sandwich either. Might be the last thing they do - [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kemcyzbz8j4]Ronda Rousey owns Bas Rutten[/url]

@ [b]WhyDontTheyFreezeHim -[/b] so...regular 'extinction' events caused by the 'creators'... Interesting concept.

@Cervantes - Yeah, I just couldnt think of what could be the reasoning for the regular extinctions though.

@ [b]WhyDontTheyFreezeHim -[/b] ...what about a built-in 'self-preservation' desire to stop certain planet cultures from 'evolving' to a point which could challenge the 'creators' every now and then? Perhaps every few million years or so? Such as getting technologically advanced to a point where they could attempt to contact/reach the 'creators'...with possibly aggressive intentions. The 'invitation' to that specific star system could be a ruse to find out when our culture gets to an advanced enough point in our development to enable space-travel for answers...and the 'creators' decide it's time to unleash a can of whoop-ass on us at this point, just in case we're reaching the stage where we become a potential problem?...

We dont know the order the scenes apear and trying to peice them as a jigsaw could be impossible because there could be many many more parts of that jigsaw that we do not have. Sometimes its hard proving to trying to figure out what is right, its much easeir to figure out what is wrong and look at holes/flaws that debunk a certain theory. Maybe even doing that wont give us answers as there may be explanations. A lot really depends on where certain events occur. Where does the Waterfall scene occur, at the start, middle or end? Where does the Tenticle chassing Shaw occur, after she has the thing taken out of her in which case it could be the Squid growing up, or before in which case in a more shocking moment it could be the Squids Daddy. Holloway is seen with something in his eye, but then he must at some other point go back outside Prometheus and on return he is starting to Mutate. I have a hunch that Holloway Mutates into something that then chasses Shaw?