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Decontamination

Ozthebruin

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[i]"And you let it in ..." - Ripley to Ash[/i] The decontamination scene in [i]Alien[/i], is a brilliant and subtly executed plot device that operates on several levels. It serves to suspend our disbelief by appealing to the logical and rational thinking of human beings. It stands to reason that any human exploration of an extra-solar world would require protocols and procedures that would enhance the safety of the explorers. Thus, Ridley Scott grounds the future in understandable, and accepted contemporary thought. The scene is so subtle that we never question the need for decontamination procedures, nor that there is a chain of command. It further serves as a red herring. Initially, though perhaps suspicious, Ash's actions humanize him. It appeals to us to believe that his actions are motivated by concern for his crew mates. This, of course, sets the viewer up for the shocking realization that not only is he an android, but that his motivations were entirely nefarious. Suspension of disbelief is absolutely critical in any serious science fiction, and Ridley succeeded brilliantly with this one scene. And that brings me to the question of decontamination in [i]Prometheus[/i]. Characters are observed interacting with - presumably - alien substances. We witness them in spacesuits, and yet there are scenes where they lack their helmet. In Alien, Kane clearly felt protected from danger when he touched the facehugger egg. Yet, the characters in [i]Prometheus[/i] seem far less concerned in this regard. Is there some dramatic device that Ridley uses to allay any infection concerns the crew might have? Is it the deliberate and contrary action of a character, similar to Ash's actions? Is it something Ridley has purposefully or accidentally overlooked? Or - in my opinion this is the least likely alternative - are the decontamination procedures employed by the crew of the Nostromo, a result of the irresponsible actions of the crew of the Nostromo?
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Biomechanic
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In one of the magazine articles it states that Holloway decides to take off his helmet after realizing the air inside the cave is breathable. I think maybe humans have become conditioned and think they are immune to any such such diseases now. For a generation or more they grew up in a world without the threat. Anything that happens to us can be fixed in the medlab. We are the Gods now we know everything so why be cautious? Maybe someone should have said: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Holloway, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy" Nah wouldn't work he's too hard headed...
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[quote]I think maybe humans have become conditioned and think they are immune to any such such diseases now. For a generation or more they grew up in a world without the threat. Anything that happens to us can be fixed in the medlab. We are the Gods now we know everything so why be cautious?[/quote] But don't you think this is taking hubris just a little too far? The Prometheus' Medlab must be at least a good 15 minutes away and if there were an alien version of mustard gas it would surely kill a crew member before he or she gets back. I think we be witnessing one of those "movie things" that just does meet a basic test of logic.
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Well thats because the eggs or whatever they are in Prometheus are shiny things. Eggs in Alien are dusty. See where Im going with this? Besides the Prometheus crew didnt realize the danger, plus there probably no facehuggers in Prometheus anyway. The thing attacking that one person on the table was an SJ helmet.
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What would you do? You'd do some sort of test or exercise to establish whether the air was safe. If your test or exercise was satisfactory, you'd take off your helmet. If your test was inaccurate or your technology couldn't detect what was there,: or, if what was there declared itself inert but it's nature changed at some point after your helmet was removed.....well, you'd be in some problems - and we'd have story.
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Oh well geeze an alien world were there are lots of things gooey and gassy......plus my friend just got eaten sooooo yea. Helmet off. right?
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@Biomechanic: lol Great sense of humour. @Purplest: Great quote and great points. That is my biggest fear, as you say, that it is "one of those movie things." @Xenokiller: Dusty or not, the eggs were potentially dangerous and the crew of the Nostromo were following "standard decontamination procedures" according to "ICC Protocols". What happened to Kane illustrated the dangers of extra-solar exploration. But, it hammered home the fact that such exploration is potentially extremely dangerous, regardless of the failsafes that may be in place. Even more to the point, and brilliantly executed because of the layers of depth associated with them, Ash's actions put the entire human race in peril. Ridley had balances for his checks in [i]Alien[/i]. Decontamination was one of the most brilliantly executed, because of its subtlety. But, subtle or not, it was absolutely critical. I cannot help but think that he deliberately allowed his characters to behave irresponsibly - if in fact they do - for a reason.
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@Biomechanic: lol Great sense of humour. @Purplest: Great quote and great points. That is my biggest fear, as you say, that it is "one of those movie things." @Xenokiller: Dusty or not, the eggs were potentially dangerous and the crew of the Nostromo were following "standard decontamination procedures" according to "ICC Protocols". What happened to Kane illustrated the dangers of extra-solar exploration. But, it hammered home the fact that such exploration is potentially extremely dangerous, regardless of the failsafes that were in place. Even more to the point, and brilliantly executed because of the layers of depth associated with them, Ash's actions put the entire human race in peril. @Allinamberclad Absolutely possible scenario. @Constealltion ROFL! ... Yup! Ridley had balances for his checks in [i]Alien[/i]. Decontamination was one of the most brilliantly executed, because of its subtlety. But, subtle or not, it was absolutely critical. I cannot help but think that he deliberately allowed his characters to behave irresponsibly - if in fact they do - for a reason. I look forward to finding out.
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I had brought this up before in another post, but this also crap, there is no way any space crew is going to take off their helmets, much less touch something they have not tested. As far as the Alien movie, that was so full of holes as well, I would assume any space going craft would still be governed by rules and regulations, just as on any ship now days, there would be a very strict code as far as chain of command and following all the rules, otherwise you would understandably face very harsh punishment.
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The "shooting" scene with the dude being carried in the background seems to be a candidate for this, it seems...
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In one of the magazine articles it states that Holloway decides to take off his helmet after realizing the air inside the cave is breathable. I think maybe humans have become conditioned and think they are immune to any such such diseases now. For a generation or more they grew up in a world without the threat. Anything that happens to us can be fixed in the medlab. We are the Gods now we know everything so why be cautious? ------------------------------ Do ya remember what killed the invaders in War Of The Worlds?
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@Spartacus, Tom Cruise did, didn't he? I kid, I kid.
Fall down seven times, get up eight.
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This has bothered me for a long time. It totally breaks the willing suspension of disbelief. FTL travel I can buy. Humanoid androids I can buy. Freaky alien things, sure whatever. But a scientific team sent to an alien world taking off their helmets inside an alien structure? Whut? Sorry, but that is completely asinine. It's an alien planet with an atmosphere so it will probably have biological pathogens floating around that nobody has any immunities for. I mean, what kind of suicidal recklessness do you have to have to be a scientist and know that this is the case and take your helmet off anyway? Sorry, but these idiots deserve to die horribly.

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