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Prometheus will bomb?

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crzygaser

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 1:59 PM
Just a thought? Will Prometheus flop? I mean seriously I am intense about this movie but how many people even realize its existence. Few of my friends know about it and less know that is is somewhat related to Alien. Sci-fi in my opinion is hit or miss with the masses. I think the serious tone and feel of this movie might not jive with potential buyers. Most of my lady friends don't want to see it because they don't even know what Alien is. I feel to many people in this forum believe it will be a mass success but seriously this movie doesn't have sparkling vampires were in trouble...discuss!
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FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:15 PM
Inspiration will come from Prometheus for this generation as Alien gave to us. I am completely inspired to see this film, whether it be rated R or not. A vast new way of film, creativity, art etc. should come from Prometheus, hopefully delivering the goods. My only wish is to be inspired by Scott's new work.
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tutelo

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:17 PM
A lot of the younger generation are fans of "aliens" and have never seen the original. When RS talked about the movie based on the SJ I was like awesome, maybe I can finally find out just who the SJ was and how the hell did the derelict crashed. When RS said that it was going in a diferent direction I was still interested because of the storyline he outlined. And quite frankly, the 8-10 min. tie-in with Alien is just an easter egg for us fans of Alien. I dont think it's gonna flop, but a lot of the reserved people will wait for people's opinion to go see it after it comes out. And im hoping the studios go with the R version since Ridley made both cuts for the studios to decide.

BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-17-2012 4:20 PM
@dopelganger Ridley has gone a U-Turn on the movie it was orginally more of a direct prequel, but i recon during the Script writting process he has seen that the Xeno as in these critters. [img]http://puddlesgathering.com/blog/bgd-pb_alien_evolution.jpg[/img] These have been done to death, but i sugest when Ridley was look at the reasons for why the Derelict Ship was on LV426, who was the Pilot and the Cargo of Eggs and why they was there and they got there. I am sure he felt their could be more depth added to the story behind the Space Jockey, and when exploring the orgins of the Xeno (which he asked Giger for advice on how his Xeno would look if we reverse the Evolution of it). He gain saw a lot of scope for that process than just the Space Jockey did this and that, and it made the Xeno. This gave Ridley a potential to explore other posibilities with what kind of DNA that is contained within the Xenos, could also be used for or what else could Evolve from the creatures Genetic past. The movie is based on the Alien Universe, which i think Ridley will want to have it looked at as the Weyland Corp Universe. Ridley will look to explore and explain the Xeno, just he wont be basing the entire movie on that Organism as in the one in the image above. The Alien Universe and Movie also gave us Weyland Corp and its Agenda and Goals aswell as its Tech inc Andriods... The Alien movie gave us the Space Jockey who has not been explored. So the main scope of this movie would be the Space Jockeys, Weyland Corp and its Motives and Tech. And add to it the tie in with a creation by a Alien Race Theory hence Prometheus and Ancient Civilisation links. How did they create life, what do they use. and then distantly did some of this Technology some how become responsible for the Xenos? And potential more so what other horrors can the Space Jockeys Bio Tech be used for or create. So yes the movie is not going to be a direct Alien Prequel not in the same sence that Aliens/Alien 3 is seen to Alien. But bet your bottom dollar their are connections, and Ridley has said that the end of the movie will directly link to Alien, we will see Alien DNA in a form we will recognise and it will give Alien Fanboys their wish. But at the same time, the movie will explore in more depth the Space Jockey, Weyland Corp and its Tech and throw in the Creation aspect to add a good plot. What else they gonna do? Make a movie about how man finds clues to our Orgins and a Star Map and Weyland finance a mission to that system. Where they then come across a Race who then we will see are the Space Jockey from Alien, who have a simular/same ship as in Alien. But then have it make NO connection to the events of Alien..... That would lead far more questions than answers... Unless Ridley is going for this to be none Cannon to Alien, and basically go along like Alien never existed the Xeno never existed and Weylan Corp never in its future comes across anything to do with that franchise. A alternative universe if you would... If this movie thus does that and does not reach its goal of getting interest from general Sci fi fans... then it would also Alienate itself from the Alien fanboys. How little do you expect the link to Alien to be then?

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allinamberclad

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:20 PM
@WhyDontTheyFreezeHim You may as well be speaking for me. @Freeze Him! Someone needs to elect you Class President. I'm serious.

Svanya

AdminPraetorianApr-17-2012 4:21 PM
@draekus; I am very serious, the only guys that like Sci-fi that I know are gamer friends. I don't know any IRL males that like it. My father enjoys sci-fi but not this type, he likes Star Trek and 2001. He doesn't adore Alien or Blade Runner like I do. I don't know many Jocks, I know people in the medical and legal fields and they tend to dislike Sci-fi, at least the ones I know and work with. It is my long time female friend from school that love Sci-fi and online gaming. Again, I will say I am not American and that might have something to do with it.

Famished

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:21 PM
If reviews come in and Prometheus is compared to the Ridley Scott classics, no doubt in my mind, this turns into an "event" film. Seriously, people are starving for something exciting, thought provoking, and beautiful to look at. For every fan of Potter and Twilight there is another fan out there that wants nothing to do with it. If the adult audience gets turned on, you will be surprised at just how many decide to go back to the big screen theater. It's not superhero, not teen vampires. Prometheus, in my mind, has the opportunity to be it's own thing. Like I said though, it needs to be smart, and completely written. Add the bang and some good reviews, people will want a piece.

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Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:24 PM
@AllinAmberClad It'd be my honor
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WhyDontTheyFreezeHim

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:26 PM
@Freeze Him! - Im hoping for the same things man. I do have a good feeling about Prometheus. @tutelo - Same here! Im loving the idea that this is a whole new story. Having the 8-10 minute alien tie-in at the end is just a great bonus. The Space Jockey, derelict and Weyland/Androids ALONE are enough to get me excited!

Famished

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:26 PM
I'll be shocked if the IMAX screen here isn't sold out for a few weeks. Do you all even remember the word of mouth on Avatar? They thought it might bomb going into the final month.

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Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:28 PM
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FREEZE!

Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:30 PM
@WhyDon'tTheyFreezeHim, we are brothers in the freeze! You may as well speak for me bro!
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tutelo

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:34 PM
Also the term xenomorph means foreign lifeform, so the term applies to any creature that appears in this movie, including the SJ.

BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-17-2012 4:36 PM
I dont think the movie will bomb because of the PG13 As i said i dont understand the US rating system. In the UK that would be between a 12 and a 18 which gives us our 15. In the UK a 15 Cert movie allows for adding of more intence Horror moments, and Gore/Blood and scenes of Sexual or Violent nature a 12 does not allow for such. District 9 was a 15 in the UK and i enjoyed the movie, if Prometheus can get to that rating and allow simular amounts of Gore then with clever thriller element it would work. I just think that a movie restricted for 13 year olds would struggle to get the same kind of intence horror/thriller impact that say the Orginal Alien or The Thing had. A 15 age group could do it.... My self i think this movie would give us a intriging plot like a District 9 meets Blade Runner, there will be a link to Alien off course. But then you a have to remeber that Alien was not 100% about Xenos was it... thus this movie would have a much lesser amount of its time dedicated to the Xeno. I dont think we will expect to see Xenos running around, and by that i mean the exact kind and cycle as in Alien etc.... That does not mean we would not have some monsterous Organism that goes around killing the crew, i think the Organisms will have a mild simularity they will off course be based on or created at least by the same Race and simular process as the Xenos was. At the end of the movie, i expect that Ridley will give us our answers to Alien maybe there are questions left but they will be ones that do not leave us without answers, they will be ones that we would be able to solve for ourselves. Such as say if you got a Bulldog and then it has a Puppy thats a Cross with some other Dog Breed come out your left with questions..... (like Alien left) But if you then saw the Bulldog alone in the house with a Poodle and it does not show you anything else apart from bieng in the same room, then it would answer the Cross Breed Puppy (this is how i think this movie will leave us with answer but obvious question that can be answered). So as that he can in future explore other aspects of this movie and never in any other movie explore LV426 or the Derelict or what happens on that planet and ship from the timeframe of this movie circa around 2090 to that of Alien circa around 2120.

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WhyDontTheyFreezeHim

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:40 PM
@Freeze Him! - LOL! As our friend Brett would say..."Riight!" You may as well speak for me too my friend!...You too allinamberclad.

Nickknight303

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:41 PM
Hold on, Nolan's new batmans are great, and Prometheus will be better!!!

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Co-AdminMemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 4:48 PM
@WhyDon'tTheyFreezeHim, Riiiight!
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allinamberclad

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 5:00 PM
@WhyDontTheyFreezeHim @Freeze Him! Walk in the parrrrrk!....

Prom_queen

MemberOvomorphApr-17-2012 6:58 PM
I love quality cinema, like [i]Alien[/i], and it seems like quality films are becoming fewer and far between. That's why I am so looking forward to [i]Prometheus[/i]. I also loved [i]District 9[/i]. As you can probably tell from my username, I am female. I don't watch shiny or glittery vampires or whatever they are. I loathed [i]The Notebook[/i]. I hope [i]Prometheus[/i] is a great film and paves the way for future films. My hope also is that this film will have a phenomenal audience turnout which will maybe tell Hollywood that moviegoers are begging for better films with the whole package (good acting, writing, direction, etc).

degaton

MemberOvomorphApr-18-2012 3:01 AM
What makes a film a success or a bomb anyway,financially speaking? I mean...I read 4 or 5 years ago that "Superman Returns" (wich I couldn't give a D*MN about) earned its money back plus about 130 or 140 million more on top of it,and that it was therefor considered a failure.What..???I consider 130 or 140 million in pure profit to be awesome!! So,if Prometheus only earns a couple hundred million beyond the production costs,will FOX consider it a "bomb"??
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