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Why do we love ALIEN......really

Mark Cawley

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Theres a lot of talk that this movie would be better WITHOUT the xenos in it? Come on you lot......dont tell me you fell in love with Alien just because of the story and the acting. Personally i still get off on the first couple of frames of the Alien opening its mouths in front of Brett, making that little hissing kind of sound.........THATS why i fell in love with Alien, oh and the scenery. So yeah, i for one would be disappointed if theres no xenos....even at the end, i dont care as long as it pays homage to the original xeno rather than the domeless Cameron versions.
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90 minutes of teeth is good enough for me lol.
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I made a Pumpkin For You Guys... [img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/LT.HIGHTIMES/1a1pump.jpg[/img]
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I totally agree, that's the only reason I enjoy Alien. I think that the Story and Acting were pretty irrelevant and boring - they wasted so much good time on it, it was ridiculous - I couldn't even understand what the point of doing that was. I have said, all along, that film would have been just as good if they had just focussed on the xeno's teeth for 90 minutes - and a lot of people agree with me. It would probably better, actually, without all the need for that stupid talking and then some people walking from here, to there, and back again: I mean, seriously, what the Hell were they trying to prove? It slowed everything down. I hope Ridley Scott listens to the true fans this time 'round and just keeps what's actually most important.
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I love Alien because its a great movie.
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Mark Cawley
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But what makes it great freezehim?
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Just because a movie has the xenomorph creature in it does not keep it from becoming a steaming pile of shit - and there's a few movies out there that prove it. I'm grateful that Ridley has chosen to explore the space jockey mythos. When I first saw ALIEN I was fascinated by the appearance of the SJ and I was sure it would figure heavily into the movie's plot later. Finally they're getting around to it and I'm excited about it. Like Ridley pointed out, the Alien xenomorph creature has been done to death.
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Mark Cawley
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But we still never found out where they came from and why..........and i dont think Prometheus will explain this either.
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I think it will.
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well said RickK If 90 minutes of teeth were all it took to make a great alien film, Alien Resurrection would be a great film...instead its garbage. I love Alien for all the reasons that some of you guys mentioned was irrelevant... Its a horror movie. Its not a scary action film. The grittiness of the environment, the detail and development of the characters and theyre relationship to one another are all what makes it a great movie. And its layers and mysteries are great. The things that RS doesnt explain, having the restrain not to reveal things that probably wouldnt reveal themselves throughout the course of the events is great. It leaves so many places to go with the story. The scariest scene in any of the movies to me is the scene with Dallas in the shaft. I love how he realizes that the whole situation is his fault (at least he thinks it is, not knowing how Ash has manipulated things), and delegates himself to go into the air shafts, but knows he's in trouble, asking Mother "what are my chances?" The fact that they had Lambert directing him through the ventilation, with her panicky way of speaking when she gets scared, and Dallas's eventual turn to panic, saying "I want to get the hell out of here", still scares me. There's nothing about the other movies that does that. I dont however understand why RS wont make consecutive films in this franchise. It seems like he cant hand the baton off fast enough.
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For me it's a matter of all the primal fears that we see the characters are forced to face against unthinkable horrors. Alien forces you look at that unseen terror just waiting for you around the next corner or just down the dark corridors, aside from the amazing sets and the fact that even by today's standards and modern special effects it's a movie that still looks and feels great for its age but the sense and feel ( or essence ) of the first movie is something that was lost to the later sequels, but I'm sure that Ridley understand this and Promy might not have the same tight corridors or the same claustrophobic settings but be reassured the horrors are there.
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Alien is a great horror film because it pushes all of the fear buttons. Rape and disembowelment and clostrophobia and helplessness in the face of evil and extreme violence. You have nowhere to run away to and the monster is a kind of suicide bomber, you can't kill it without destorying your ship. Then there is all of the sexual imagery to make people uncomfortable, at least back then. The imagery of a big dick with teeth bursting out of a guys chest and snarling nastily! Then it grows into a bigger dick with two sets of nasty teeth. All great reasons to be scared.
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@yhms, I agree...two other things that really makes that scene so scary to me is the extreme claustrophobia of being in that vent shaft with him like it's pressing in on you and don't forget about the music score while he's in the shaft...it's both tension packed and at times eerily mournful...almost like it mimics the fact that he knows he is doomed...I especially like the one shot where Lambert looses his signal and tells him to look around him that it has to be somewhere near by...when he looks up and you see what to me seems like a quick shot of a moving shadow against a piece of machinery is just plain spooky...RS was a master at creating these types of feelings for the viewer...none of the other sequels came anywhere close to replicating these disturbing feelings with the viewer imo..
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@giger, right. anytime you take the character whom the audience has accepted as the leader, badass, and most likely to survive, and break him down like that, its scary. lamber says "get out of there!", and he drops the flame thrower and starts moving, though he can only move at a crawl because of where he is, and it just adds to the tension. i also love the way the shaft doors open and close in that scene...the dirty, greasy sound, its so creepy. the scene in the prometheus trailer with the floor opening up in the pilot chair room always makes me think of them.
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I love this film not only because of the story and acting, but because of how this film differentiated itself from other sci-fi films of the time(Star Wars, Star Trek-TMP). It was a story about ordinary people facing an extraordinary adversary. There was nothing fancy about the film; it truly depicted how life would be for people like these. The way Alien was done, one could argue that the filmmakers could have set this story on present-day Earth. And since they were miners, put the Alien deep in the mine, and go from there...They sort of went for that idea in Alien 3, but the execution just didn't work. In the end, the way the film was shot and edited, plus the fact that Alien didn't overdo it with the gore(despite Kane's death), as well as the fear of the unknown, made this film such a classic. I would hate for anybody in Hollywood to try and remake this remarkable film.
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I love Alien because of the suspense. It's very similar to John Carpenter's The Thing where you have a small group of people trying to survive in a closed environment. Alien really sh*t me up as a kid and it still makes me jump out of my seat 30+ years later, especially the seen where Dallas gets it in the tunnel
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Alien was the "mother" of all sci-fi horror flicks, in that it gave birth to a new generation of sci-fi horror films. Alien would be the sensei, and all these other films the students, none of which have come close to dethroning it.
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Now theres an image... Ridley Scott is like the crusty old Mr. Miagi then. And he is telling J.J. Abrams to..... WAX ON, WAX OFF Cool!
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Both our fascination and fear of the unkown draws us in....we want to explain what we don't understand, but at the same time, we have an instinct for self preservation. Alien was an exploration of our darkest fears in a mostly unknown universe. The acting was key to Alien's success and longevity.....the Xeno had only a brief few minutes at best of screen time. This fact alone debunks those who would wish for a mindless Xeno based prequel. Prometheus will be a rare Gem for Sci Fi enthusiasts.
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Ridley Scott wouldn't even fart in J.J. Abrams general direction. Besides, Abrams is too busy trying to be a second rate Spielberg to take lessons from Scott.
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I think what differentiates Alien from not only its sequels (all shit), is that care and thought went into it. He made a piece of quality that has and will stand the test of time. It lulls you into thinking not a great deal will happen, and then smacks you in the teeth with what was then horrifying (and still is unsettling on repeat viewings). A lot of thought went into the xeno too, but unfortunately the sequels and avp have ruined that. Now is a chance to repair the damage. The first think i like about prometheus is its captured my imagination, and gets complete strangers talking to one another. Thats a great thing.

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