Invite us to their planet then kill us?

@Spartacus But the dilemma in your position remains? If we were, "CLEARLY never EVER meant to go anywhere", how would you account for the communications that were left, in the first case? And how would you account for the interpretation of those communications as an invitation, in the second case? It doesn't seem to stand. @Necrofan You were not referring to a literal God being - and neither was I. I was only pointing out that in what you said about the Promethean curse, you have simply raise the stakes by one Super being level, with the Divine, above the Engineers...

Then pretty much, yes. The engineers didn't know it at the time ( maybe because they, too stole the technology ) ; the fact that each civilization they kick-started would at some point show up where THEY live to challenge them, wishing to become like them. This is the curse of the gift of intelligent life. The bird that shows up to eat Prometheus' liver / The spaceship that shows up to steal their technology and basically take what they can for their own means. Same allegory, maybe.

A Space Jockey/Prometheus Rock & Roll Theme Song !!! Crime Of The Century Songwriters: Hodgson, Roger; Davies, Rick; "Now they're planning the crime of the century Well what will it be? Read all about their schemes and adventuring Yes, it's well worth a fee So roll up and see How they rape the universe How they gone from bad to worse Who are these men of lust, greed and glory? Rip off the masks and let's see But that's not right, oh no, what's the story? But there's you and there's me" So roll up and see How they rape the universe How they gone from bad to worse!!!"

that Song Lyric should be the frikking theme song for this EVENT !

Spartacus, I agree with you, in believing most of we are being shown in these trailers so far is more eye candy than plot elements, more of a diversion from its true story line than anything. Whatever it takes to keep us fans from dissecting the movie before it's released!

@Necrofan I see. I think is is very interesting and corresponds exactly, in principle, to what I have been thinking about the Order of Things. I considered that, in that Order, the point must inevitably come, when the Created, surpasses the Creator.

All of our theories are valid at this point. And we all deserve credit for defending them vigorously. The movie cannot possibly live up to the hype we have created for it in our minds. I will settle for a happy medium. And hope for much, much more.

Biomechanic, that sounds more like a re-boot of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Which would be awesome, by the way. I just don't know what they would do to improve it...

I think we are going to find out as Scott has said of us that the whole idea here is HOW ARROGANT WE HAVE BEEN AND CONTINUE TO BE and HOW INSIGNIFICANT we are in this UNIVERSE. THAT WE HAD BETTER REALIZE THIS and fast !!! That we are making too many mistakes, Raping this Earth of ours in the process and almost always with a Religious Like Vigor it is done in the name of some "God". To Me The Space Jockey's are the "G-d Wanna Be's" who have gone ten million times further in their search of this kind of immortality then we have {The Derelict is Thousands or Millions of years old!}. We come along out of the blue and meddle, do what we do, investigate out of curiosity except in this case, everyone was so busy thinking about how all we want is answers, that we forgot how there might be an Alien race out there that misinterprets OUR intentions...we didn't even think of it. We were so arrogant in our belief that we must be Unique and maybe even the ONLY species of "alike" Intelligence and culture in the Universe. We forgot we might be pissing on someone else parade. We didn't really forget actually, we were so closed minded we made bad assumptions. We deliberately have Had Blinders on about our place in the Universe and the teachings or Religions about our own origins. I think we may certainly find out in this film that Mankind was Created by this Race of Space Jockeys. I also think we might find out that We Did have something to do with the process, but that we were somehow, out of desperation forced to do something, that mingled with their overall plans and intentions and thus changing it's intended outcome to something else entirely. because of this, at the same time I think their will be this suggestion, and I think Naoomi Rapace's character will be the very symbol of this, That Manknd is an Enduring species, and different perhaps than every other species the Space Jockeys have encountered in their Terra-Forming Travels, WE FIGHT BACK !!! For all of our arrogance and meddling and misplaced Intentions, we FIGHT BACK !!! We Survive !!! I think if nothing else, we EARN that races respect somehow.

No was not Giger ...was the one who was talking in an article called "the planet" ,,,he did talk about the "metallic" look instead of the "organic" one of alien and spilled some infos about the story ...included the fact that the SJs did help humans for many centuries

I don't know about earning their respect there Sparky.....in all honesty, it would appear to me that what this comes down to is the crew triggering an intended doomsday event by the SJs and that they manage to avert the disaster they set into motion.....Somehow I doubt that the Jockies can [b]reasoned[/b] with or impressed by us.

What if the alien/sj found/seen in alien is in fact a mutated crew member from the prometheus, thats ends up altered and fact that the solgan for this film states "that the crew must survive on a distant planet," means there is some who survive....maybe, just maybe, the crash sj ship we see is one of many, (like our space shuttles, we only have 6 but lost 2) and when its damaged, the remaining promethus crew finds another, maybe david, understands it, gets it powered and leaves, but his destiny leads into the found ship in alien...meaning he was able to land it..before he dies...... just a thought.

when I said respect what I meant was the Space Jockeys sitting around a table after this all over and B******G to eachother... "Those F*****s" they sure made that whole thing take longer than necessary"

@ allinamberedclad, My reason for thinking this is because Shaw says we never should have come. This could either mean they shouldn't have period. or once they were there they screwed up somehow and pissed the SJ's off warranting the "we should have never come here". Also, drawings from various tombs and pyramids on earth depicting the coordinates of the space jockeys were done thousands of years ago and perhaps the SJ's thought it would never be possible for the humans to break that down and figure it out let alone fly to the destination. Why have advanced security features if the SJ's want visitors. Why have the deralict space ship go back to earth if you dont want them there. IMO the only two scenarios are: 1. They dont want the humans there. 2. Humans show up, piss off SJ's, steal technology, trip security measures, fall into a trap.

@iwannaseeitnow I am with you on this one. If you don't want people to come visit then you don't leave maps telling them where you live. I also think people are too hung up on the name Prometheus and it's significance. The film may be about mankind stealing from the gods but there is no guarantee that the theft didn't happen in ancient times, ie when they visited. I doubt we (humans) will be painted as the bad guys in the movie. Personally I think it will be something else. What that is I don't know.

Guess We have to say this all again guys... [b] THERE WAS NO MAP THEY DID NOT INVITE US ANYWHERE !!![/b]

@BioShock But, Shaw having formed that opinion, if she does, has no bearing at all on the [i]intention[/i]?.. And if the Beings thought, "it would never be possible for the humans to break that down and figure it out let alone fly to the destination", then what possible reason and value would there be in them leaving the co-ordinates you speak of? What evidence is there of, "advanced security features"?!... Is this just your interpretation? I don't completely follow your reasoning. But it's interesting.

@Spartacus ?... But, there [i]are[/i] maps?

There were 5 star maps from ancient humans telling us where to find them

The other thing that it's not wise to forget is that both Scott and Lindelof seem to be totally fine with their storytelling being (and remaining) rife with ambiguities even as the final credits roll by. Blade Runner (Is Deckard a replicant or not?), LOST (WHY exactly did the statue have 4 toes?). Perhaps all the film does is pose more philosophical questions. The thing I like about Ridley's SciFi is that it's a bit more like real life than say... Roland Emmerich’s. Things can be subtle and are more 'normal' when they are messy. There's no "Yeay! The Amuhricans won!" factor required at the end. The film may end without our knowing a damn (significant) thing more about the big picture cosmology than, "Well, some of our assumptions were wrong.” The Engineer(s) may not speak. Or, conversely, David may end up knowing everything (and we may even KNOW that he knows everything), but be programmed to tell us (the audience) nothing (and be destroyed before a single bean is spilled). That doesn't mean that the film won't have its own rock-solid internal logic and be thoroughly satisfying. In fact, regardless of what the ACTUAL true backstory is, we probably are more philosophically (and more importantly emotionally) satisfied by not knowing (everything).

[quote]› Posted Apr-28-2012 11:49 AM | Moderate There were 5 star maps from ancient humans telling us where to find them[/quote] SHOW THEM TO ME. THE TRUTH IS ALL 5 STONE TABLETS DECPICT THE EXACT SAME THING A HUMAN POINTING TO SOME STARS. 'NUGH SAID!!!

OR 7... WHATEVER NUMBER IT WAS, THEY'RE ALL IDENTICAL...HUMAN..POINTS TO STAR CLUSTER.

RAPACE AND HER FELLOW CO CREW MEMBERS MISS INTERPRET IT ALL AS A MAP.

Yes, done by the hand of the artists themselves. I don't think the engineers broke out the pigments and sculpting tools to put those dots there themselves. It may be something that's imprinted in the collective human subconscious, or the engineers had some kind of telepathic influence over the artists of sevearl different cultures. Whether they represent a map, an inventation, or a subconscious creative impulse remains to be seen.

Ya know what enough is enough of this, I will tell you exactly what those stone tablets from Ancient times are... A WARNING TO "STAY THE F**k AWAY !!! A WARNING...DO NOT MEDDLE" !!!

Did one of the early "leak" things say they were resource hungry? Maybe it is designed as a trap. When your civilization gets to a point where you can make it to lv223 your home world is ready for harvesting. We are cattle to them.

1: "Prometheus" has nothing to do with "E.T." or "Close Encounters." This movie is much more likely to be similar in tone to "Alien," where [i]survival[/i] is the best we can hope for, in an implacably hostile universe. 2: There is no way all those early human civiilizations could have known where the Engineers came from, [i]unless they were deliberately told[/i]. 3: The Engineers presumably had some purpose in mind, when they meddled with the course of evolution on Earth. Given point 1, it's natural to expect that purpose was, and is not, benign. 4: What we've become, ( a technological, spacefaring race ) is presumably, [i]a direct, entirely predictable result of their meddling.[/i] 5: It doesn't make any sense that the Engineers would uh, [i]engineer[/i] us, simply to wipe us out. Therefore, they could hardly be taken by surprise when we come calling. On the contrary, we must be[i] expected[/i]. 6: The SJ ship isn't taking off, to wipe us out, but to carry out part of a very long-term plan......which for us, probably means something far worse than death.

My bad, there are 7 not 5. Seven ancient cultures who had no contact with each other, according to the trailer. mesopotamia, mayan,france cave paintings etc All 7 maps point to the parent start of lv223 which is why the mission gets funded. They are going to that star because of the map. Also Shaw thinks the map are an invitation as quoted in the trailer http://db.tt/S0AZvdpQ

YES SHANE AND THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO "THE COMPANY" BEING IN THIS GREAT STRUGGLE WITH MRS. YUTANI AND THE YUATNI CORP FOR EITHER ACQUISTION AND CONTINUED GROWTH, OR BEING SWALLOWED UP BY THE OTHER.