Invite us to their planet then kill us?

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MemberOvomorphApril 28, 20124613 Views148 RepliesJust like some of the other members of this forum, I was a bit puzzled why an alien thousands and thousands of years back would leave a map showing us how to reach them if we ever figure out space travel, just to try and destroy us when we get there. That's the one thing about the story that has really lost me. It simply doesn't make sense.
One possibility I have considered is that maybe it was never our visitor who attacks the crew. Maybe whatever visited us went extinct or was wiped out by the space jockeys. Maybe there's something we haven't seen in the trailer.
Any alternate takes on this? Would love to hear your thoughts.
April 28, 2012
YES SHANE AND THAT WAS IN REFERENCE TO "THE COMPANY" BEING IN THIS GREAT STRUGGLE WITH MRS. YUTANI AND THE YUATNI CORP FOR EITHER ACQUISTION AND CONTINUED GROWTH, OR BEING SWALLOWED UP BY THE OTHER.
April 28, 2012
I dissagree completely and think the company is an Evil Lying Bastard just like the Space Jockey Race is and deliberately attempting to get more expendables into space so they can have their weapon as Ripley said.
April 28, 2012
@sparticus
Why would a civizilizaton that couldn't even cross the alantic create a star map for a location to avoid that is tens of light years away?
With a million stars in the sky pointing out the ONE to avoid is daft, imaging 7 civilisations doing the same thing is unbelievable at best. It would be like buying a satnav that is pre programmed with only one destination and that destination is a location that you should avoid. Or printing a book with websites not to visit
It's a no go for me
April 28, 2012
I also say they have either completely misinterpreted those tablets or done it deliberately !!!
April 28, 2012
I don't think the 7 ancient references to the star system Prometheus ventures to are a warning to stay away, because the best way to ensure we never go there is to not inform us of its location - prevention is better than cure.
I think it is an invitation, just not one with good intentions.
April 28, 2012
Apparently, either we would never have reached the point where spacefaring became practicable, or we reached that point much more quickly than we would have otherwise, [i]had not the Engineers intervened in our development.[/i]
How could they then be shocked and surprised when we [i]inevitably[/i] show up on their doorstep? .........and who's to say we're the only race with which they've interfered?
April 28, 2012
The artists didn't even know what they were doing. But they were compelled or possessed to put down that image, by internal or external forces.
April 28, 2012
Oh Spartacus....."Ya know what enough is enough of this, I will tell you exactly what those stone tablets from Ancient times are...A WARNING TO "STAY THE F**k AWAY !!! A WARNING...DO NOT MEDDLE" !!!"
While I agree with you that the tablets and such are NOT maps, I do have to say that I can't believe it's a warning to stay away...with the enitre vastness of space, there is NO point in showing humanity a star configuration AS a warning when they could have just never shown it to people at all...We never would have found that world in all likelyhood from a Jockey perspective....so why show it to us to simply warn us?...doesn't make sense.
I think it's as simple as, and I'm speaking in the person of a Jockey's pov, You human beings worship us and THIS IS WHERE WE COME FROM........(much in the same way Greek gods told man they live on Mt. Olympus).
It's as simple as that.....It's not an invitation to come and visit as Shaw and Holloway assume, because I don't think the Jockies expected humans to advance to that point. It's simply the knowledge of where they hail from.....
April 28, 2012
BY the way just so I am clear about how out of left field I know even my own theories can be/ are....
according to US, that is ALL OF US, YOU ME, AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO WENT TO SEE ALIEN WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT
ACCORDING TO THE STORY AND THE WORD "CANON" AS WE KNOW IT...
"The Jockey Possesses an air both elegiac and hopeful-the universe might yet offer nonlethal Alien Contact, and quite why he was and IS considered benign is hard to pinpoint, yet EVERYONE WHO SAW HIM mourned his passing-a lost soul staring through his telescope at the unreachable heavens forevermore."
LORDY LORDY HOW I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THAT VERY NOTION TODAY !!!
AND THAT'S FROM THE ALIEN VAULT !!!
April 28, 2012
"LORDY LORDY HOW I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH THAT VERY NOTION TODAY !!!"
Totally agree there Sparky
April 28, 2012
@allinamberclad
By advanced security measures i mean the lifeforms able to inhabit us and the pod inhabiting lifeforms. Its plausible to assume they are a security measure for the temple/ship.
if we all agreed on the same plot we would have no discussion. I really like how everyone has an original idea of how this all comes together. Makes it interesting. We wont know who is right til June 8 and perhaps we still wont know from this movie judging by Ridleys creativeness.
April 28, 2012
@artyoh
Are you sure you weren't the script supervisor on the production? ;•)
I’m totally on board for all of this except possibly in #6 the part about ‘something far worse than death.’
I'll say again that everything about what the Prometheus crew encounters reeks of [u]desperation[/u] to me. The Juggernaut ([i]le croissant des étoiles[/i]) may be departing for Earth for reasons very different from why the Engineers originally visited Earth and ‘tampered’ with us to start with.
It does seem that the ‘we are cattle’ theory is holding up nicely as the weeks progress, however. If the pilot of the craft is able to show up on Earth as a god (Quetzalcoatl, Krishna (or Kali (even better)), Annunaki, The running-quite-behind-schedule Jewish Messiah, Jesus, [i]et al[/i]), he might enjoy hanging out in a Penthouse suite at the Encore and being waited upon by the staff at the Park Hyatt Vendôme. Or, maybe he'd just bioreëngineer us into some of his long lost friends—perhaps starting with the 3 who got their chests congested at some point on his ship before the humans conveniently showed up.
April 28, 2012
@cragamore
We [i]know[/i] the result of their meddling: a technological civilization capable of spacefaring. If they never wanted us to get off this rock, they presumably could have made sure of that quite easily. If they never intended for us to drop by, they clearly screwed up by showing everyone they met, precisely where to find them. Either the Engineers are generally incompetent, or they knew we'd ultimately show up.
April 28, 2012
[quote]Posted Apr-28-2012 12:39 PM | Moderate
Benignity, as with all things from the minute to the epic, is a matter of perspective.[/quote]
so eloquently spoken, Thank you for that Snorky, it helps to keep things in perspective.
April 28, 2012
@craigamore
I can live with your description, that sounds plausible.
@Biehn_Bandit
I don't dig the its a trap idea. The stone tablets range between 4000 - 10000 years old. If you want humans for some purpose then doing it when we are defenseless is the perfect time to do it.
If they could travel between the stars 10 thousand years ago then I'm sure they have better technology than HD TVs and internet porn so I don't think they'll be interested in letting us evolve to the point where they want to steal our technology.
I think they came in peace to each of the 7 civilizations to help them evolve. I hate to mention the Atlantis word but seeing as RS referred to it in an interview... Perhaps they visited Atlantis and someone stole something from them, they got annoyed and wiped out Atlantis and haven't visited us since. As as a result, human civilization became civilized and we began to advance our technology.
because of that they are not pleased when we turn up.
Don't shoot me, I don't want to see any mention of Atlantis in the movie either but RS referred to it in an interview.
April 28, 2012
@artyoh...this is pure speculation....."We know the result of their meddling: a technological civilization capable of spacefaring".
We don't [i]know[/i] ANYTHING for sure....the point of an alien race 'meddling' in our affairs is for the Jockies and Ridley to know at this point.......You;re making an assumption with no evidenciary support. Sure, I gave my opinion, but I don't KNOW.....no one does..NO ONE.....