Blade Runner and Prometheus

Yes. Ridley Scott seems to be forever fascinated by the questions brought up by the creation of true AI. He loves to speculate endlessly about the complex issues that would develop between man and machine, theorizing that AI would choose to work closely only with a small group of human creators, or the Company, whom they basically manipulate to carry out their will. Scott also enjoys toying with the audience on this topic, differentiating INTELLIGENCE from EMOTION. As I said, endless speculation, and it thrives within RS's writing style and the way he works on-set.

Aren't they both nexus 6 models... ?

Another note.... when they show predators world in AVP 2 it looks just like the Blade runner cities.... all pyramid designs with slanted ceilings and isshhh

I dont think bladerunner is a movie about AI ... Androids are just a tool to rappresent the condition of the humanity without a hope of afterlife . What bother Roy Batty is not the fact of being an android , is to die and lose himself forever ( "and all this moments will be lost like tears in the rain " ) and he ask his creator to give him more life and maybe eternal life . Is the EXACT position of humanity if we would be sure that after death there will be nothing . We can be all Roy Batty in perspective .

Frantz, Roy Batty simply asks, or demands, from his creators the same thing that we as mankind would ask. Say we find HIM and HE is, indeed of our own image- and in many ways inferior. When we are told that even our creator can't give us eternal life, that we were made as good as HE could make us, we would rebel and wish to usurp this creator with our own superior ambitions. Three years or 80 years. The intelligent creation is not satisfied with its lifespan.

Frantz, in other words, I agree with you 100 %.

Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? is a science fiction novel by American writer Philip K. Dick and first published in 1968. The main plot follows Rick Deckard, a bounty hunter of androids, while a secondary plot follows John Isidore, a man of sub-normal intelligence who aids some fugitive androids. So RS was taking this book and making it a movie with his creative genious and twists. That's pretty much what RS did. Neither Aliens or Prometheus have anything to do with each other - if that makes sence. Just saying.

Thanks for these comments. I've read Dick, so I'm not proposing that RS came up with these ideas by himself. It's more a question of past themes in his work, and how they may inform Prometheus. Given that BR was his last sci-fi film, it seems particularly pertinent that he may some unresolved questions from way back then.... More specifically, these may apply to how the character of David was written. It seems one-dimensional to consider him either GOOD or BAD, but something in between, like Rutger Hauer's character in BR. It also would add an interesting complexity, I think, to the plot of Prometheus, if not only the Engineers were the "gods," but, in David's view, so were humans. Two plots at work... Thanks again.

Dopelganger is right. That's where the idea for Bladerunner came from. What I am thinking is that the book and the ideas presented in it (Philip K. Dick is a genius and prophet of sci-fi, as far as I'm concerned) formed the basis for Ridley's ideas about AI in general. And these ideas have and will continue to permeate anything he works on or directs that deals with this subject.

I recall hearing Ridley Scott saying in one of the bonus disc material featurettes that if the crew of the Nostromo came back to Earth, landed, got out of the ship, walked down and came around the block the universe that they would walk back into would be the Blade Runner universe. Now, he may have been just offering a corellation of science fiction/future themes that stories of this ilk tend to play off on one-another, compliment one another or just simply influence one-another but do not have any direct or indirect influence upon one-another at all. That said, it is intriguing to think that the androids and the technology and the space faring civilization humans have ventured into becoming would all have in some-way-shape-or-form crossing-parallels with one another in subtle or literal terms. Again, as with Alien reversed-engineered to Prometheus stories the latter has evolved into its own linage and mythology and Alien pursued its own as well. So, by any stretch of the imagination, why can't there be crossing parallel story telling with all of theses themes runing parallel to each other simultaneously? I think it would be really interesting for that scenario to play out as much as it would be equally interesting to see the Blade Runner Nexus 6 revolt upon the ship in space and the mutineering androids commandeer the ship and pilot it towards Earth to track down their eventuall makers . . . It would stitch a common denominating thread between theses themes yet each one would operate within its own rite much like the recent Avengers films have all tied in seperately yet have all been unified within one film. I would welcome such a cross-stitching of themes and ideas from each serving films that play-off one-another and yet compliment at the same time... It would be a really neat concept if there was the fore-thought to want to pursue such an intellectual enterprise of such disparate, independent themes...

Interesting that Ridley Scott said that about the Alien and Blade runner universes. It has also been said that Promeetheus is something between Alien and Blade runner. This suggests that David8 plays a prominent role in the story. Also Ridley Scott signed up for a Blade Runner sequel and is hoping for a Prometheus sequel. Could these two films be one the same film?

Its interesting you should say that Darwin, I posted a couple of potential ideas for sequels to both P R O M E T H E U S and B L A D E R U N N E R under the title name-sakes of P R O T E U S , C R O N O S and (maybe) F E T U S. F E T U S is just an idea but I think the P R O T E U S and C R O N O S ideas arn't too bad. I was just thinking on a whim when I was writing the about the god-mythology they are based upon and the corellations they could have with our 'Human' interpretation. Read and see what you think, I was just being enthusiastic about what I thought was a neat idea that could perhaps expand the P R O M E T H E U S mythology into potential new realms by borrowing from other greek mythology subtexts, you know. You sound like a reasonable kind of individual Darwin, please read on what I have typed up about...