People seem to be confused.

ADH0983
MemberOvomorphMay 08, 20122698 Views62 RepliesWhile this is my first post on this site, I've been spending most of my time reading some great discussion pieces on here since this site was first up.
There's just one thing that is bothering me to the ends of the earth about some people's understanding of the engineers/SJs, in that quite a few of you seem to be under the impression that the engineers and SJs are two separate entities, when anyone who has even the slightest idea about the Alien/Prometheus world should surely know they are one and the same being. Just two different names have been created for them.
Discuss.
May 08, 2012
I think there's a big ass hugger on the loose, hence why they're running. Potentially one of the engineers has gone rogue and is killing the rest...sacrifice and ghost engineer, baldie is the last engineer sans suit. We will all find out shortly that's for sure
May 08, 2012
@Forever War
maybe I've missed something, but I was under the impression that you didn't see what was making them (or him/her/between) run, whether it was a system failure (dire or not), a creature or just a desperate need for the toilet!
If I'm wrong please offer any provable correction...
I'm waiting for Prometheus to do that and surprise me!
http://i668.photobucket.com/albums/vv50/sariefaerie/random083-1.jpg
May 08, 2012
Picking up on Syphonox's argument, what if it is a symbiotic relationship. The suits are alive and bio-mechanical. The engineers wear the suits in order to run their spaceship, because apparently in the trailer y0u can see an engineer walking around without the suit. However, in the original Alien and also in this trailer you see the space-jockey/suit strapped into the chair with the cannon-like thing, After all, it's a mighty organic looking suit.
May 08, 2012
Spoiler Alert*******
Arnold's character's name is Dutch not Butch, and the real cameo is in fact a clone of Carl Weathers' character (Dillon aka "Agent Mann") performing next to a CGI "Dutch" (Arnold's too wrinkly now) who promptly takes a 9 mm bullet (or was it a pepperoni) and punches it through your head (in 3-D of course) .
May 08, 2012
@jp
did i hear someone mention asshugger? lol
well see the jockeys of course turn to stone after they die the engineers don't so yeah they are totally different............and LV 426 is LV 223...........what else did we establish JP?
someone actually brought up Proteus today on a new forum, maybe last night I can't remember
May 08, 2012
Please GOD... don't let them fool them selfs as to thinking there will be a predator on the loose. PLEEEEAAAAAAASSSEEEEE!!!!!!!
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
May 08, 2012
Saintssinphony....that was the best fun I've had on this forum...I actually felt a twinge of guilt afterwards, poor bloke
Yes...planets age in dog years, the Math was perfect lol
May 08, 2012
ADH0983you're right, and you mentioned the right nterview with ridley where he also confirms it. I also don't get why people think theyre seeing a blue guy by the waterfall, to me that looks like something being transformed into a man (by engineer technology).
there is no need for a hierarchy of creators of the engineers. Thats what shit sequels do, and when theyve totally ran out of all ideas, they do a monster mash up.
i would say there is no 'canon' (ridiculous term) for this film. ridley can do what he wants. All that happens in Alien is that one creature is eventually spawned from the process. He can ignore everything else in aliens et al.
May 08, 2012
Windood:
I hear ya.
[b]Ask nothing from no one. Demand nothing from no one. Expect nothing from no one.[/b]
May 08, 2012
i wonder if some peoples enjoyment of the film will be ruined by a sense of "oh fuck, did i really post all of that crap i thought online?"
Blue baldy = space jockey = engineer
Now, slowly, repeat after me
baldeee eeekwuls spaaaaace joh-key eeekwuls engineeeer
May 08, 2012
I personally don't mind what people believe, but I do have concerns that if they believe there are 2 distinct races, that the jockeys are not the same as the engineers, then in due course the scientologists will find out about it, and trick them into a big thetan purge, then we'll all get swept along into it (and they won't let us see prometheus. EVER)
This is how it all starts people, LINE IN THE SAND.
NOW
WHO IS WITH MEEEEEEEE
ooh, new meds, fancy :-)
May 08, 2012
The Blue Guy and the SJ are the same.....get it? The SJ is a Blue Guy with his space suit on people!!! Ridley talked about this stuff...he mentioned about why no one wondered who was in that suit from Alien. The Engineer(s) is/are the Blue Guy's:O)
May 08, 2012
@iapetus
what about an SJ as 'prometheus' and a higher power not shown in the film but one that has a left a pandora box behind intended for earth? I dont think two species need to be shown.
the threat for me is what they find and what it would mean if it were to reach earth.
this was always the implied threat and menace in alien/aliens too, something that Riply 'got' immediately.
May 08, 2012
f that happens, then suddenly the engineers are redundant as any kind of threat onscreen, and were a waste of time making a film to go and see.
if you're going to make a film about the space jockeys, you make a film about the space jockeys, not their daddies, and their daddies daddies.
And people moaned about lost, good grief.