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Id Rather Be Eatin Something Else

MemberOvomorphMay 16, 20123543 Views79 Replies
I have analysed the Prometheus ship and see here as another analogy I drew upon a few days previous was the fact that I speculated that the Prometheus ship was loosely, o.k. "LOSELY" based upon Gigers Turkey Burster 'first draft' (if you will) design of the Xenomorph's birth faze. Is the Prometheus ship in fact the metaphor for the Eagle? But the metaphor it represents appears to be hidden in plain sight. It IS the ship: Prometheus! And the 'Liver' it pecks out is the Ram manuver the crew of the ship itself impliments when it collides with The Juggernaught. For example of the Eagle metaphor: [img]http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/1706/85012380.jpg[/img] Here you can see the 'Eagle in flight' or in a 'Nested Position' or could be in a dive-bomber mode. [img]http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/309/44878821.jpg[/img] The Prometheus ship is a metaphor in plain sight... Yet subtly concealed... [img]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/3237/10500268.jpg[/img] But its is once again clear to me that the producers of this film are interlacing it with layer upon layer of subtext and metaphorical bordering on subliminal visual yet subtle 'language' for us viewers to digest ... [img]http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4528/15930060.jpg[/img] ...or indeed, peck at! lol!
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best i can do so far , but will find one ....love your post [img]http://pbr1051.photobucket.com/albums/s435/rob9401/4424f4e31233c1e63149f856f79ea4b5.jpg[/img]
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Landed, I think the Prometheus looks more like a honey badger than an eagle, but that's just me. [img]http://www.cxmlconnect.com/joy/downloads/Honey-Badger_dont_care_500.png[/img]
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That is indeed also correct in that vein Spartacus and I understand whole-heartedly why some are only prepared to go so far in what they are presented with, with regards to the text and sub-CONTEXTS of things, issues, ideals and the metaphorical constitutes this film raises in us as the intellectual fan-based community upon this material... For some this is just everyday thinking, an average day even...!
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Wait, what's the name of the film again?
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People, really....follow the bread crumbs please. Weyland compares us (him)to Gods. Prometheus goes to meet our ancestors who created us or made us into what we are (the Gods or engineers). Weyland wants the knowledge (probably for immortality) or resurrection. The crew are rejected, killed and otherwise tortured. The Juggernaut attempts to go to Earth to punish us mortals for tampering with the God's knowledge. It isn't all that deep...it will be the Horror show and the subtlety that will give us food for more thought and a desire for Pro2!!
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I buy the similarity with the eagle, but it doesn‘t appear to fit the myth. Basically, the myth is children steal tech that can be used to overthow the parent. I can buy the xeno as the eagle. The real question is who is punished, which will tell us who Prometheus is. At this point, I am unsure who that is. The likely alternatives are: 1. Weyland 2. A sympathetic Engineer 3. David David is a human creation similar to Frankenstein, “the first Prometheus.“ He does seem to tie into the Frankenstein role. In that case, is Dr. Frankenstein the Prometheus or is the monster. I am thinking it is the doctor and not the monster, so based on the Frankenstein model, Prometheus would be David's creator, Weyland. Weyland is a titan of industry, so he could be Prometheus who was a titan. Wayland also is a visionary. Prometheus could see into the future. Weyland wants to obtain technology to benefit man, so there are strong signals pointing to Weyland as Prometheus. Engineers are responsible for creating and helping humans. That is the role of Prometheus. If the Engineers are Prometheus, one of them must be friendly (or stupid) and gives us (or inadvertently allows us to take) technology that can be used to overthrow the parent/gods. Is the tech given to man the gift of intelligence or some bioengineer tech? Both Weyland and the Engineers appear to fit (with some gaps) with the Prometheus myth. However, if Prometheus is Weyland, then it appears the eagle is unleashed on humans rather than Weyland as the titan Prometheus. So, I am not entirely convinced it is Weyland, even though his space ship is called Prometheus. If Prometheus is an Engineer who give us tech, fails to prevent us from taking the tech, provides a map to the location of the tech, bioengineers us to have intelligence, etc., then maybe the Sacrificial Engineer is Prometheus who is punished by god like Elder Engineer. I also agree that movies carry imagery to get the myths across. Just look at American Beauty, Kevin Spacey's character is constantly shown behind bars to show that his life is jail (he sits behind stair rails that look like prison bars, vertical lines on a computer screen with his image reflected from behind the lines). So, it could be possible that the space ship is designed to look like an eagle to build on the imagery, but I think the real eagle is the xeno, which we know gestates by consuming the body. Still, the ship crashing into the juggerbutt could result in the xeno being implanted into the Engineer/Prometheus. I could buy into that, but I think we have to end up with the xeno as the eagle.
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'People who mock are themselves the mocked'... that is why they do it. Shame those state of affairs exist. I enjoy the process of the meeting of minds who enjoy fair, balanced and above all else... a matured form of debate and intellectual analysis upon an agiven subject..
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/facepalm... Sometimes a ship is just a ship.

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I'm not suggesting that all here present engage in that derisive form of response and manner to members such as myself whom only seek to raise the proverbial possibility of the 'possible' I ask you again to dis-prove my hypothosis I have presented upon this thread... I 'm certain those who would fall on that of disagreeing are resourceful enough to follow their own paper-trail as it were, dot the " I's " and cross the " T's ". Come up with your own counter research and prove me wrong... I challenge you too.. In the meantime I am prepared to continue conversing with those who would want to possitively and constructively in return...
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"Facepalm" lmfao Svanya...hahahahaha
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@I'd Rather Be Eatin Something unmentionable No, I wasn't mocking you. It [i]does[/i] look like an eagle in flight........when it's flying. On the ground, it looks more like a husky, honey badger, right down to the contrasting "dazzle camouflage" of his coat.
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Yes Artyoh. I am prpeared to conceed that point, too a degree... The Prometheus 'Making OF' will eventually reveal all and I'm betting when it does... remeber this thread, o.k...
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@ Eatin something else. I just got one question, it must be a pain in the behind to put your login name every time you log on? Other than that great job at making such a good observation don't mind what the others say, they just don't get it even when it's staring at them dead-on.
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We don't know whether or not they deliberately employed animal analogs when they designed the Prometheus. They certainly [i]could[/i] have......even if it was more of an unconscious influence, than: "I'm going to intentionally make it look like X."
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Almost all craft, because of their aeronautic nature, look like birds in flight.

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I know what you mean Xenophobia... Good-on-you! And kindest regards to your reply. Its a pleasure to talk to you, I hope you are well. Thank you kindly and yes... If I had the choice of typing while I'd Rather Be Eating Something Else and rather actually BE Eatin' Something Else...well there's no comparison in my book!! heh! heh lol! !
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I see the shape match to a bird if you use your imagination, but the story logic doesn't work and the Pro ends up in many pieces.
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Yes, fair enough people. Upon the one hand I can conceed your point and wanting not to kill the mystery but yet upon the other, if that is you belief and it is what you truely feel... then why are you even upon here in the first place? Is it or is it NOT a film CHAT forum? By definition it invites, it flirts, it DEMANDS you to dare to flesh-out that which you find curious. For me it is the pursuit of intellectual processes that are based around the inception of such concepts and visual referent as that of Alien franchise and soon-to-be Prometheus that I find so stimulating... But that is just me. What about yourselves out there? What motivates you?
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It sorta does look like a eagle but got nothing to do with the story, everyone is gonna die a horrible painful death except one character probably, the humans aren't going to be punishing anything, just look at the fucking name of the ship and you will see we are the ones about to get punished.
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Ok, lets start a new intersting post like, is LV-223 a square shaped planet with edges that you could really fall off of, but has been terraformed into a sphere.

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